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56. Could you clarify that for me?

Wed May 6, 2015, 02:32 PM

May 2015

For instance... would "You know a whole lot more about what Alex Jones has to say than I do." be a smear?

How about the claim that those who disagree are believing "big corporations who profit from all of this"... rather than... oh, I don't know... actual experts in health physics and global/governmental specialists?

Why associate a DUer with what someone not even in the conversation said?

The key in this case is to get her to understand the real value (or lack thereof) of the sources that she's relying on. There are legitimate reasons to oppose nuclear power and there are reasonable people who do so... then there's a whole spectrum from there to the lunatic fringe. It helps to be able to recognize that fringe and how firmly they stick together. Pallast is not a valuable source when considering Fukushima... he really hasn't added anything of value... he just parrots that fringe.

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Fukushima Report Delayed as TEPCO Gets New Chance to Explain [View all] Octafish May 2015 OP

I just bought a new geiger counter. darkangel218 May 2015 #1

Does the EPA have one I can use? Octafish May 2015 #3

God Save the west coast!!! yuiyoshida May 2015 #66

I'm sure they will have a good li, er, explanation for it all. Smile and leave the bananas alone. Mnemosyne May 2015 #2

I called Amazon to cancel my return darkangel218 May 2015 #4

Don't blame you a bit, darkangel. I wish I had one to test food. nt Mnemosyne May 2015 #23

Mine is showing constantly normal background radiation. darkangel218 May 2015 #24

Oh, and it beeps just like they do in the movies. darkangel218 May 2015 #25

! Kali May 2015 #26

It's true. zappaman May 2015 #33

How old were you when Chernobyl happened? tammywammy May 2015 #40

Ive wrote about it before darkangel218 May 2015 #48

Japan now censors Fukushima news, it's so good. Octafish May 2015 #5

Not surprised at all. darkangel218 May 2015 #6

I guess tptb think no news will be viewed as good news. Mnemosyne May 2015 #27

You seriously believe that there's still a nuclear reaction going on? FBaggins May 2015 #7

Yes. Octafish May 2015 #8

So the only two possibilities in your mind... FBaggins May 2015 #9

You're the one who claimed it's over. Octafish May 2015 #10

He claimed it wasn't even hot! RobertEarl May 2015 #11

TEPCO and GE want to put the kibosh on the timeline. Octafish May 2015 #12

Who should we believe, real investigative reporters and experts who warned about the danger, or Big sabrina 1 May 2015 #49

Real investigative reporters like Alex Jones, right? FBaggins May 2015 #50

You know a whole lot more about what Alex Jones has to say than I do. Greg Palast sabrina 1 May 2015 #51

You may claim not to read Jones... FBaggins May 2015 #52

So why do you feel a need to smear? Octafish May 2015 #55

Could you clarify that for me? FBaggins May 2015 #56

Not my problem. You made the smear. Octafish May 2015 #64

Sorry... why is it a smear again? FBaggins May 2015 #65

What's it called when you put words in somebody else's mouth? Octafish May 2015 #67

That would be "taking a page from the Octafish playbook" FBaggins May 2015 #70

Palast has been a respected voice on DU forever Generic Other May 2015 #68

The alternative explanation is that DU didn't change... FBaggins May 2015 #69

There's a pattern to the nonsense. Octafish May 2015 #71

Wow... that's quite an imagination FBaggins May 2015 #74

lol Ichingcarpenter May 2015 #15

He correctly informed you that it isn't hot FBaggins May 2015 #16

Sure baggins RobertEarl May 2015 #45

You really don't "get" the burden of proof fallacy... do you? FBaggins May 2015 #46

You had a lucid moment? RobertEarl May 2015 #53

I guess that was a "nope" FBaggins May 2015 #54

Meanwhile in the US RobertEarl May 2015 #87

you aren't going to respond to post #54? snooper2 May 2015 #76

I guess that too was a "nope" FBaggins May 2015 #88

Nope... I merely claimed that active fission ended years ago FBaggins May 2015 #14

They're your own words. Octafish May 2015 #32

All of those words are correct FBaggins May 2015 #34

Asinine argument. Octafish May 2015 #57

Did you think that people would miss that you're dodging? FBaggins May 2015 #58

Maybe he meant "out of control unclear reaction?" Orrex May 2015 #59

Well, try reading what was written RobertEarl May 2015 #78

Can't hear you over the screams of these melting starfish Orrex May 2015 #80

Yeah, Sea stars. Good thing you think of them RobertEarl May 2015 #81

TNDR Orrex May 2015 #85

Welcome back to the thread FBaggins May 2015 #82

Where is that report? RobertEarl May 2015 #83

What report? - Edited FBaggins May 2015 #84

Keep digging, dude RobertEarl May 2015 #86

I've posted many times about how deadly radiation is FBaggins May 2015 #89

Radioactive Major Nikon May 2015 #13

When ridicule is all you have, that's not much of an argument. Here, learn something: Octafish May 2015 #20

I like your UFO posts better Major Nikon May 2015 #21

Great. I take great pride in providing information that matters. Octafish May 2015 #30

You make a good point Major Nikon May 2015 #31

As a great man once said NuclearDem May 2015 #35

You should post that as an OP, so we can see who wins the "rightness" popularity contest. Orrex May 2015 #47

Thats what they do, that is all they have. Ridicule. darkangel218 May 2015 #29

Post removed Post removed May 2015 #37

How dare you question the power of ethanol Major Nikon May 2015 #39

When the other person believes in things that are not physically possible... FBaggins May 2015 #38

No one knows what's ''physically possible.'' Octafish May 2015 #72

Sorry... that's religious faith... not science. FBaggins May 2015 #73

More sideshow and distraction, FBaggins? I didn't bring any of that up. Octafish May 2015 #75

Did someone steal your login and make the OP without your consent? FBaggins May 2015 #79

That top picture on the left side, MY HAT, that is where the fucking thing is! Where was that taken snooper2 May 2015 #77

Fukushima�s �Caldrons of Hell�: More than 300 Tons of Highly Radioactive Water Generated Daily Ichingcarpenter May 2015 #17

Gee. Who to believe? Professor who gets shut up by TEPCO, Abe, GE and CIA? Octafish May 2015 #18

How interesting that you pick that "professor" FBaggins May 2015 #19

Interesting perhaps, but not surprising Major Nikon May 2015 #22

He was in the waste management division FBaggins May 2015 #28

So you know and worked with him closely? Rex May 2015 #41

? FBaggins May 2015 #43

Link to the professors background? Or do you want me to just take your word for it? Rex May 2015 #60

He's retired now FBaggins May 2015 #61

Link to 'dozens of fellow professors laughing at his claims'. Rex May 2015 #62

You'll have to ask him... FBaggins May 2015 #63

Why do you waste your time? Rex May 2015 #42

Whatever is happening at Fukushima JEB May 2015 #36

The radiation continues to spew and there's nothing man can do. Octafish May 2015 #44