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Agnosticsherbet

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25. Elect a Democratic President, a Democratic House, and a Democratic Senate.

Wed May 6, 2015, 03:11 PM

May 2015

Have someone in the House and Senate who will propose a new version of this bill.

(At this point I will feel some excitement.)

Get it passed in the House and Senate.

Get that Democratic President to sign it.

Replace at least one of the current conservatives Justices on the Supreme Court so the inevitable challenges have a chance of being beaten.

(At that point, I will likely cream my jeans.)

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Bernie Sanders Delivers A Body Blow To Wall St With New Bill To Break Up The Big Banks [View all] babylonsister May 2015 OP

I'm ready. I'm ready for some hot debates. I'm ready for Bernie Sanders!!! NYC_SKP May 2015 #1

Yup madokie May 2015 #141

When will the Republican Senate vote on it? Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #2

I don't know. I think at some point they will babylonsister May 2015 #4

It is election year posturing to grab headlnes and excite the base. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #7

It also puts the GOP on record as against it /nt think May 2015 #9

The GOP will never vote on this. They will vote on repealing the ACA to excite their base. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #14

Unfortunately NewJeffCT May 2015 #159

Only unsubstantial if you think it's not worth talking about..... daleanime May 2015 #15

He did this in 2014, 2013, and 2009. It went nowhere. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #16

So you don't think it's worth talking about.... daleanime May 2015 #17

I think talking about a policy statement is good. Not as a meaningless stunt. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #19

Talk without action is never honest.... daleanime May 2015 #20

An action that is meaningless is dishonest. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #21

By definition for there to be an action.... daleanime May 2015 #28

Well then, you don't want to change the clown convoy, do you? You want upright men Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #31

I want politicians to be honest rathern than mank meaningless actions for publicity. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #137

Politics is said to be 'the art of the possible'. I haven't paid much attention to Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #155

So you only vote for those who dont do anything at all? padfun May 2015 #53

I have anumber of criteria that I use when deciding who I vote for. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #157

More accurately, meaning without action rather than action without meaning... LanternWaste May 2015 #71

He's not at all dishonest. He's just not acting very effectively. MADem May 2015 #79

Dishonest salib May 2015 #132

It does one BIG thing. bvar22 May 2015 #38

John Lennon Roy Rolling May 2015 #49

ThankYou! bvar22 May 2015 #68

pass or not pass.... tomp May 2015 #152

Was Sanders running for office in 2009, 2013, & 2014? TM99 May 2015 #139

True. Wall Street does not get the treestar May 2015 #22

Elect a Democratic President, a Democratic House, and a Democratic Senate. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #25

We already did that BrotherIvan May 2015 #125

Funny how fast the agenda for change disappeared. Octafish May 2015 #180

"Body Blow" ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #27

Even a feather jab is overstating it. This is entertainment for the day for the Repubs in the stevenleser May 2015 #64

Four or five? jmowreader May 2015 #86

It puts him on record. Let's see HRC & any others do the same bread_and_roses May 2015 #119

The GOP? They do everything in favor of their paymasters, mostly the Koches. Bigger than the oil and freshwest May 2015 #151

But then, unless there is a filibuster proof Senate ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #26

Well, and there was the fabled 2 year majority we keep hearing about: freshwest May 2015 #150

Could you suggest a better course? FiveGoodMen May 2015 #30

Well duh. Talk about it and do nothing is more effective than talking about it, introducing neverforget May 2015 #143

IF Bernie 'gets through' to some people (not in Congress, in the country) so that they see what some Bill USA May 2015 #35

I never thought the AHCA would get voted on LanternWaste May 2015 #70

Its nonsense gesture: Bernie cannot strike blow to the Banks! lewebley3 May 2015 #82

So just lay back and think of England, I suppose Scootaloo May 2015 #83

Every Democrat can vote for it, and you might be surprised that there ARE Republicans who sabrina 1 May 2015 #127

I am excited over this "symbolic gesture". He is making it clear to the American people rhett o rick May 2015 #131

Unfortunately a Democratic House and Senate wouldn't pass this either. loooneranger May 2015 #153

"I do not get excited over symbolic gestures." staggerleem May 2015 #165

Agreed. OhZone May 2015 #182

Hasn't he introduced this legislation several times before, with little progress, even when Dems Hoyt May 2015 #3

Yes, but you just don't understand. frazzled May 2015 #11

Lol nailed it nt treestar May 2015 #23

With magical thinking anything is possible. Heck, you or I could be President and enact stevenleser May 2015 #72

You could not have nailed that last sentence harder. Number23 May 2015 #111

He did this in December of 2014 Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #13

Yes, The Democrats held large majorities in the Senate & House when the Banks were "bailed out". bvar22 May 2015 #60

+1 deutsey May 2015 #62

If I'm not mistaken, most of that money has been repaid. I think it was probably a good Hoyt May 2015 #85

"lot more lost jobs and a much longer worldwide recession/depression." bvar22 May 2015 #94

A financial meltdown would have affected everyone worse, especially the poor and those in Hoyt May 2015 #104

Sorry to spoil your little story, bvar22 May 2015 #112

I'm sure WG would be for anything that preserved jobs around the world. Hoyt May 2015 #118

I disagree. bvar22 May 2015 #120

Lots of Democrats disagree. Even unions supported the bailout. Hoyt May 2015 #121

We've had enough, and they're out of excuses. Initech May 2015 #5

This would have been great in 2009. JaneyVee May 2015 #6

Well, he did try... deutsey May 2015 #8

An excellent way to judge his leadership capabilities. If he can get this bill passed, he might be stevenleser May 2015 #10

Like Obama successfully gets his ideal legislation passed? arcane1 May 2015 #29

Seriously, the fact that this legislation didn't pass says less about Bernie than it does about the smokey nj May 2015 #32

And he can't really be blamed if a republican Senate doesn't vote on it n/t arcane1 May 2015 #33

It goes to the heart of why he is running. If he can't get anything more progressive passed than stevenleser May 2015 #37

That's a made-up excuse for disqualification. arcane1 May 2015 #40

It would be made up if it wasn't the reason he was running. But it is. nt stevenleser May 2015 #45

Maybe he should write a fast-track TPP bill. Repubs LOVE that. arcane1 May 2015 #47

Changing the subject won't help the facts about your chosen candidate. nt stevenleser May 2015 #58

So, who could pass a liberal bill in a republican congress? You keep avoiding that. arcane1 May 2015 #66

I'm not avoiding it, Bernie is the only one suggesting he can. So its only incumbent upon him and stevenleser May 2015 #73

Your logic is tortured. TM99 May 2015 #140

Lol! neverforget May 2015 #145

No, your thinking is magical. I'm a realist. You remind me of the Southerners in stevenleser May 2015 #160

Rhett Butler, you are not. TM99 May 2015 #167

Understanding the idea of a metaphor, you don't. Nt stevenleser May 2015 #174

You are so funny Steven. TM99 May 2015 #175

No, I'm not. But I grasp reality quite well and don't engage in magical thinking. Nt stevenleser May 2015 #177

Keep telling yourself that TM99 May 2015 #178

Lol, I'm not the one suggesting Sanders can get progressive legislation passed by this congress stevenleser May 2015 #179

Oh Steven. TM99 May 2015 #181

Excellent. So what approximation of this legislation do you expect Bernie can get passed and stevenleser May 2015 #34

I expect republicans to wipe their ass with it. arcane1 May 2015 #39

So now we're electing people to submit meaningless gesture bills that have no hope of passing stevenleser May 2015 #43

You're trying too hard. arcane1 May 2015 #46

You're confusing a ball right next to the hole with someone trying for a hole in one on a par 5 stevenleser May 2015 #48

And this someone is...? arcane1 May 2015 #50

Have no idea what you mean. nt stevenleser May 2015 #52

LOL Of course you don't arcane1 May 2015 #54

I'm here to help. nt stevenleser May 2015 #57

I bet the the initials are HRC Autumn May 2015 #59

Known for writing all those liberal bills that passed a republican Senate arcane1 May 2015 #65

lol You also have no idea what a politician is LiberalLovinLug May 2015 #162

If by politician you mean the kind of magical thinking that suggests Bernie can deliver, then no. stevenleser May 2015 #163

whoooooooooooosh LiberalLovinLug May 2015 #166

Incremental progress is over-rated ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #81

LOL, exactly. Only it's even worse. This bill isn't even a swing for the fences. stevenleser May 2015 #84

Do you believe that Hillary will break up the Big Banks? bvar22 May 2015 #63

Apparently, our ideal candidate is the one the repubs agree with the most. arcane1 May 2015 #67

What is a merely a meaningless gesture to one is illustrating the courage of his convictions... LanternWaste May 2015 #74

Wasting everyone's time on something that has no effect and changes nothing doesn't take courage. stevenleser May 2015 #75

You missed the memo: choose candidates whose ideas the republicans agree with arcane1 May 2015 #77

Except when it's gun control, then going the same way with Republicans is just fine stevenleser May 2015 #88

Nice try. Actually, a lame try. You're descending into self-parody at this point. arcane1 May 2015 #99

You're the one caught in several contradictions now. Please, explain away, I'm all ears. stevenleser May 2015 #100

The topic was writing bills that repubs would vote on. Changing the topic again? arcane1 May 2015 #101

You are FULL of it. Absolutely full of it. Repetitive talking point is ridiculously lame. nt stillwaiting May 2015 #91

Sure. Judging a candidate running to be transformative on his ability to get it done is unfair. stevenleser May 2015 #92

You're transparent. nt stillwaiting May 2015 #93

Transparently realistic and fact based. Yep, that's me. nt stevenleser May 2015 #95

Mr. Cellophane I'd say. nt stillwaiting May 2015 #96

Cellophane has more substance. This one is just here to piss on liberals. arcane1 May 2015 #102

He's ridiculous. He must be laughing his ass off with his talking points. stillwaiting May 2015 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author Long Drive May 2015 #108

Do people here expect for Sanders to run his presidency by executive orders only? Number23 May 2015 #113

The point is, NO liberal bills will get through this republican Senate arcane1 May 2015 #115

I have not seen a single post say that it disqualifies Sanders. The only people who are acting Number23 May 2015 #126

Post 10: arcane1 May 2015 #128

If Sanders is elected to be transformative and cannot get anything through this Congress, what's the Number23 May 2015 #129

That was my point: Nobody can get anything through this congress arcane1 May 2015 #130

If it's difficult for anybody, and somebody wants to be "transformative" then asking what chances Number23 May 2015 #133

That's exactly it. As you can see, it's not a difficult idea to grasp stevenleser May 2015 #176

Just bringing up the issue helps! The more of the public that is aware of the problem and how it Dustlawyer May 2015 #12

Bernie Sanders is the sexiest man on the planet. Hiraeth May 2015 #18

Break 'em up! It's what the people want! Oh, yeah. The people no longer matter. Enthusiast May 2015 #24

For those saying this is meaningless, etc... SoapBox May 2015 #36

I'm not saying it's meaningless, if he can get it passed. I'll even take an approximation or stevenleser May 2015 #41

Sanders wrote a great bill that republicans hate, and that's a good thing n/t arcane1 May 2015 #42

This is why I LOVE Bernie. hifiguy May 2015 #44

Why didn't Bernie introduce this in 2009? MaggieD May 2015 #51

He did. smokey nj May 2015 #55

He did (and a few times since) deutsey May 2015 #61

So he's doing it again for political optics - right? MaggieD May 2015 #103

I don't know deutsey May 2015 #124

Go Bernie. Re-install Glass-Steagall. PufPuf23 May 2015 #56

Do you know how a Bill becomes law, it doen't need votes lewebley3 May 2015 #170

Bernie, is just talking about breaking up the Banks, He cannot strike blow to the Banks!! lewebley3 May 2015 #69

I'd love to believe Clinton would break up the too-big-to-fails. arcane1 May 2015 #80

Its not based belief's is based on Votes: Top raiser is a + lewebley3 May 2015 #87

And that's exactly why Hillary won't break up her donors n/t arcane1 May 2015 #97

Her donor's are what Bernie is using to run for office!! lewebley3 May 2015 #117

Lincoln, Roosevelt, Roosevelt and Truman, the Kennedys, and now Sanders Babel_17 May 2015 #76

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT May 2015 #78

Just wait and watch us fight! Duval May 2015 #89

Put Sherman Anti-Trust Act back to work! Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #90

Love him Aerows May 2015 #98

I suppose those who think Thespian2 May 2015 #105

Right? "I want a candidate who gives up or never tries!" isn't very inspiring. arcane1 May 2015 #109

Me, too Thespian2 May 2015 #110

K&R nt myrna minx May 2015 #107

Great news! Especially on the heels of the Wells Fargo lawsuit. Avalux May 2015 #114

Ooh, I hadn't seen that! arcane1 May 2015 #116

Hope there's a provision in the proposed bill to get rid of "bail ins". snappyturtle May 2015 #122

This is what Bernie Sanders is, a REAL progressive and populist. 99Forever May 2015 #123

Mega K & R L0oniX May 2015 #134

I think perhaps the author doesn't understand hughee99 May 2015 #135

What was the "body blow"... brooklynite May 2015 #136

It has as much chance of passing as a bill hughee99 May 2015 #138

if they're too big to fail, they're too big to exist...KICK KICK KICK BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #142

Yes, finally, it does like they ARE in for a fight, and they have begun. sabrina 1 May 2015 #144

I so hope that it will work! BeanMusical May 2015 #146

kick..... midnight May 2015 #147

Goldman Sachs? BeanMusical May 2015 #148

will the left get bernie's back? no certainot May 2015 #149

Bernie!! AzDar May 2015 #154

Yes! Yes! and Yes! lonestarnot May 2015 #156

K&R Every dollar in Wall St is a vote against Bernie. raouldukelives May 2015 #158

I love Bernie, I love the spirit of this bill, Omar4Dems May 2015 #161

Bernie Promised november3rd May 2015 #164

Bernie stands head and shoulders above the rest....a true representative of the people. mother earth May 2015 #168

There are 244 Republicans and 188 Democrats LuvLoogie May 2015 #169

A body blow? liberal N proud May 2015 #171

Huge K&R woo me with science May 2015 #172

A bill that won't pass isn't any sort of "body blow." n/t Unvanguard May 2015 #173

break up those banks. They did this in the uk and new banks pay 2/3% interest to regular savers. Sunlei May 2015 #183