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50. He's the man then

Wed May 6, 2015, 04:00 PM

May 2015

Anyone who voted for Bush's wars is disqualified to be President .

I would think ALL Democrats and Progressives would Agree ?

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it's simple. if gun control is a vitally important issue to you [View all] cali May 2015 OP

The smears are as transparent as they are desperate. arcane1 May 2015 #1

I think it's absolutely fair to criticize him on this cali May 2015 #4

Agreed 100%! arcane1 May 2015 #14

I agree. And I welcome the discussion, even if in GD... Eleanors38 May 2015 #58

Same for Howard Dean - both probably because of the states they represented. AtomicKitten May 2015 #2

same state cali May 2015 #6

derp AtomicKitten May 2015 #7

Gun control is a losing issue anyway. PeteSelman May 2015 #3

yep. cali May 2015 #5

I agree, Cali. bvar22 May 2015 #70

Upstate NY is the same. Rural areas are different from other parts of the country. No one will win sabrina 1 May 2015 #114

+1; Background checks is something most Americans overwhelmingly support though. stillwaiting May 2015 #72

We have background checks for every retail sale of a firearm. beevul May 2015 #83

Yes - Bernie could do more RE: gun control. Maedhros May 2015 #8

It's a deal breaker for me BainsBane May 2015 #9

It's his constituency. They are rural and they hunt. Just like Hillary is from NY where Wall St. is. KittyWampus May 2015 #12

Are the gun manufacturers based in VT? BainsBane May 2015 #13

no, that position has me perplexed. KittyWampus May 2015 #15

It doesn't perplex me...sales and manufacture of fireams is legal HereSince1628 May 2015 #62

no gun manufacturers and he's never taken a cent cali May 2015 #24

That is the toughest one to get past BainsBane May 2015 #25

Since his vote was to shield the gun manufactors and there isn't any manufactures in Thinkingabout May 2015 #80

Perhaps it's the principle. You know, occasionally, a politician does actually abide by principle. X_Digger May 2015 #110

That is a common question for politicans. Thinkingabout May 2015 #112

there you go. cali May 2015 #18

What then did you do in 2004? BainsBane May 2015 #21

in the primary. cali May 2015 #26

You're right BainsBane May 2015 #29

yep. did the same thing in 2004 cali May 2015 #46

Wall street sympathies are are a deal breaker for me. lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #22

Bam! Aerows May 2015 #44

+1000. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #87

^^^THIS^^^ L0oniX May 2015 #104

Winner! 840high May 2015 #108

Deal breaker for me too, unless O'Malley does not run. Koinos May 2015 #39

But the Iraq War vote isn't MannyGoldstein May 2015 #40

30k people dead per year from guns: deal breaker LittleBlue May 2015 #45

You said once that you voted for Kerry Andy823 May 2015 #64

One always compares to the alternative MannyGoldstein May 2015 #100

Considering I voted for the Democratic nominee in 2004 BainsBane May 2015 #79

Does anyone know what his vote was to go to war? imnew May 2015 #42

He voted against. nt darkangel218 May 2015 #47

against both Iraq wars. against the patriot act cali May 2015 #48

He's the man then imnew May 2015 #50

Like you were EVER not going to vote HRC. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #54

I remain undecided BainsBane May 2015 #77

The Tort Protection for Gun Manfacturers makes perfect sense. MicaelS May 2015 #56

Translation BainsBane May 2015 #81

Real Translation MicaelS May 2015 #89

Deal breaker even in the absence of an explanation of his reasoning? cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #73

I live in a rural area Travis_0004 May 2015 #86

That's ridiculous BainsBane May 2015 #88

Some times killing is necessary... beevul May 2015 #92

Gun ownership as a percent of population is far higher where I live than any city Travis_0004 May 2015 #106

He might not take money from gun manufacturers but it's too bad he protects them. THAT SAID- KittyWampus May 2015 #10

There is an extensive history of plaintiffs' attorneys sueing firearms manufacturers... Eleanors38 May 2015 #68

The only misgiving I have about the 'Protection of Legal Commerce in Arms Act' VScott May 2015 #78

I don't care about gun control LittleBlue May 2015 #11

It shouldn't surprise people that Bernie is a good defender of all civil liberties. aikoaiko May 2015 #16

and it shouldn't surprise them Mnpaul May 2015 #111

You'll find that many who claim they are liberal... beevul May 2015 #117

Gun control isn't important to me at all. Autumn May 2015 #17

That's great. You don't live in an area with a gun violence problem, so gun control isn't a big DanTex May 2015 #19

what part of I believe it's nigh on impossible cali May 2015 #32

But it's heroic to submit break up the banks legislation that's "nigh on impossible to pass?" stevenleser May 2015 #33

Exactly. The irony of Sanders backers advocating for pragmatism and realism. DanTex May 2015 #37

Of course not. The second amendment has nothing to do with civilian gun control, and never did DanTex May 2015 #36

The Democratic Party platform and the president would disagree hack89 May 2015 #61

And they would be wrong. Any half-decent historian knows that it was always about militias. DanTex May 2015 #67

Go read the British Bill of Rights of 1690 hack89 May 2015 #76

I've seen Fox News. I don't need you to repeat their talking points for me. DanTex May 2015 #93

Wilful ignorance of history to maintain a pov hack89 May 2015 #96

You should heed that advice. DanTex May 2015 #97

I showed you the English model for the US BoR hack89 May 2015 #99

I think someone who votes to provide access to mental health treatment is going to do more to lower Township75 May 2015 #20

This!^^ darkangel218 May 2015 #49

People with mental health issues are only as likely as the rest of the population to be violent. Neoma May 2015 #91

I just checked in for the first time in awhile gotj90 May 2015 #23

For the first time since April 11th. Well, welcome to DU. And welcome back. KittyWampus May 2015 #30

He's wrong on gun control and voting for weapons systems. But there is a reason why he does NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #27

This is how it starts ... JoePhilly May 2015 #28

bzzzt. no. an issue that is important to.you, is not cali May 2015 #35

Did I say YOU called people that? JoePhilly May 2015 #38

I knew Bernie's stand on this before I supported him. Autumn May 2015 #51

Sure ... THIS is the easy part ... JoePhilly May 2015 #57

I caucused for Hillary, I voted for Obama, twice. I don't care if Autumn May 2015 #63

You miss the point ... JoePhilly May 2015 #69

I didn't miss the point. You didn't make one,other than it bothers you to see a President picked on Autumn May 2015 #75

" DU will turn on ANY Dem President who does not have an iron clad filibuster proof majority." pasto76 May 2015 #82

except im not trying to explain it away cali May 2015 #55

Please ... JoePhilly May 2015 #60

lol. sorry Charlie,I'm a rural vermonter cali May 2015 #65

America is not rural Vermont. JoePhilly May 2015 #74

His position on the I/P issue is more troubling to me than this. m-lekktor May 2015 #31

I don't think being a one issue voter is very smart upaloopa May 2015 #34

I live in a state where a lot of people hunt to eat magical thyme May 2015 #41

I'm with you. 840high May 2015 #109

Well said, thank you. darkangel218 May 2015 #43

I would politely disagree. Bernie supports gun regulations. He has an F rating from the NRA. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #52

please post that as an op cali May 2015 #59

Can't have everything. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #53

Well this is disappointing to read/hear. ileus May 2015 #66

That is a feature not a bug for me, just means he aligns even closer to my beliefs. TheKentuckian May 2015 #71

+1 Shrek May 2015 #98

The NRA and Gun Owners of America gave Bernie........ Capt.Rocky300 May 2015 #84

Bernie is not a "gun nut". kentuck May 2015 #85

+1 darkangel218 May 2015 #90

I'm wondering if somebody sent out a talking point. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #94

After Newtown, grntuscarora May 2015 #95

Take a look at HRC. We'll still be here for ya. NYC_SKP May 2015 #107

If you have a link or transcript, grntuscarora May 2015 #120

yup ibegurpard May 2015 #101

Its a big issue for me and most Democrats. DCBob May 2015 #102

not and never has been a big issue for me cali May 2015 #116

F rating by the NRA. "gun nut" is just an immature smear against a ...Democratic candidate. L0oniX May 2015 #103

I am not a one issue voter Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #105

yeah, and so's our constant war MisterP May 2015 #113

What is vitally important awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #115

Bernie voted for gun control...in Iraq. U4ikLefty May 2015 #118

Single issue voters are the worst. joshcryer May 2015 #119