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60. No. The Tobacco Lobby argued that their products were safe, but they weren't.

Wed May 6, 2015, 11:38 PM

May 2015

Smoking was not a harmless act, it is a dangerous substance, and addictive, and the industry lied about it.

Guns are like cars and knives and drano, safe if used according to instruction, but dangerous enough to be regulated within reasonable limits.

These things are not at all alike.

Nice try, tho!

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All it took was Bernie to turn DU into a bunch of NRA apologists! [View all] DanTex May 2015 OP

Manufacturers of legal things should not be held liable for their misuse. NYC_SKP May 2015 #1

Exactly! Why just the gun manufacturers! All industries should be immune from all lawsuits! DanTex May 2015 #5

Manufacturers are liable for faulty designs, poor construction. Cars, appliances, chemicals. NYC_SKP May 2015 #31

+1000 nt Mojorabbit May 2015 #35

Which is why the gun industry needs special protections? Umm, yeah, of course. Go NRA! DanTex May 2015 #75

Please point to the special protection that they enjoy. I haven't seen that. NYC_SKP May 2015 #77

Really? DanTex May 2015 #79

Awesome. NYC_SKP May 2015 #89

Hell yes! Lawsuits against innocent corporations are a huge problem! It's killing the economy! DanTex May 2015 #93

Stupid lawsuits have consequences. NYC_SKP May 2015 #96

Thats sure how it appears: beevul May 2015 #82

Exactly! Thank you team NRA! At least you openly side with the gun manufacturers. DanTex May 2015 #84

Always know the consequences of losing before filing a lawsuit. Paying the winners legal costs. NYC_SKP May 2015 #91

No manufacturers sued in the case I linked. beevul May 2015 #94

Yes, extend the same immunity to all corporations! Why didn't they think of that? DanTex May 2015 #97

Dantex invents "widget A". beevul May 2015 #109

Like I said. Immunize them all, don't let the courts decide, more rights for corporations! DanTex May 2015 #110

Have you been drinking? beevul May 2015 #111

List the 'everybody else' product AgingAmerican May 2015 #100

Everyone who is not specifically immune can be sued for anything. DanTex May 2015 #104

Still waiting for your list AgingAmerican May 2015 #105

Umm, list? Waiting? Chihuahua? Sounds like you're having a good night! DanTex May 2015 #108

And again, you're wrong. GGJohn May 2015 #112

And again, I'm right. You can take anyone to court, and if it's a baseless suit, DanTex May 2015 #115

Sorry, you can repeat this all you want, GGJohn May 2015 #119

This is fun! Are you having fun?!?! DanTex May 2015 #121

I'm having a lot of fun. GGJohn May 2015 #122

Good times then. DanTex May 2015 #124

I like soccer, GGJohn May 2015 #126

I don't get into baseball until the post-season usually. Then I root against the Yankees. DanTex May 2015 #127

I tell people that I have 2 favorite teams. GGJohn May 2015 #128

LOL. Well, we agree on something. DanTex May 2015 #129

Yup, I'm quite sure we agree on just about every other issue. GGJohn May 2015 #132

Your premise is...bizarre AgingAmerican May 2015 #71

He's been running for less than a week, and this is how scary he already is. arcane1 May 2015 #18

Yup. bigwillq May 2015 #24

...argued the entire fucking tobacco lobby. NuclearDem May 2015 #42

No. The Tobacco Lobby argued that their products were safe, but they weren't. NYC_SKP May 2015 #60

Analogy fail AgingAmerican May 2015 #73

Yes they did. And the auto industry. All industries, really. They're all "special". DanTex May 2015 #101

One word. zappaman May 2015 #2

failpost. n/t PowerToThePeople May 2015 #3

Excellent post. Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #4

NRA apologists? darkangel218 May 2015 #6

Wait, so you're not ignoring me yet? That really hurts. DanTex May 2015 #9

She is now. And so am I. Goodbye. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2015 #14

Oh shit! zappaman May 2015 #17

If I can all the gun militants to ignore me, this will be my best post ever! DanTex May 2015 #30

Well, you can count me out as putting you on ignore, GGJohn May 2015 #38

Keep 'em coming! DanTex May 2015 #45

Problem is AgingAmerican May 2015 #92

I reced this op so please ignore me also. DCBob May 2015 #15

Wow...the poster said nothing of the sort Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #16

Where did anyone defend the NRA?? darkangel218 May 2015 #19

Fuck the 2nd amendment. It is no longer relevant and should be changed. HERVEPA May 2015 #61

Welcome to the party. GGJohn May 2015 #66

How silly. darkangel218 May 2015 #68

How silly that that U.S. has so many more gun deaths than most of the civilized world. HERVEPA May 2015 #98

I wonder if scrapping the "war on drugs" would help lower that stat? nt jonno99 May 2015 #133

Wow...he accuses those of us that stand with Bernie on gun control GGJohn May 2015 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #7

Plonk! zappaman May 2015 #8

Haha! How unoriginal! darkangel218 May 2015 #11

Plonk! zappaman May 2015 #22

Take it easy. darkangel218 May 2015 #25

Plonk! X3 zappaman May 2015 #26

You may not like the hangover tomorrow. darkangel218 May 2015 #52

Do tell... zappaman May 2015 #55

Good luck darkangel218 May 2015 #57

Whining about DU. How original. arcane1 May 2015 #10

It will most likely get locked. darkangel218 May 2015 #13

cars require insurance, guns should require insurance as well nt msongs May 2015 #12

Not to own or use on private property. beevul May 2015 #99

More of the same from Dan. GGJohn May 2015 #20

Its beyond unbelivable. darkangel218 May 2015 #21

No, I've totally changed my mind. So persuasive are the NRA talking points, that DanTex May 2015 #28

Glad you finally came around. GGJohn May 2015 #34

Please describe this special immunity, when did it become special for someone not being able to sue TheKentuckian May 2015 #41

Yes, special immunity. DanTex May 2015 #50

You can also sue the gun manufacturers for anything you want, and the same rules apply. eom. GGJohn May 2015 #62

No they don't. That's what the law that Bernie voted for was all about. DanTex May 2015 #72

You say no, so prove I'm wrong. eom. GGJohn May 2015 #78

OK. You really don't know? LOL. DanTex May 2015 #80

I know exactly what the law is and what it's intended use is for. GGJohn May 2015 #87

It's intent is to shield gun manufacturers from liability. Obviously you are in favor of that. DanTex May 2015 #90

It's intent is to shield it from frivilous SLAPP suits, GGJohn May 2015 #107

Special immunity? AgingAmerican May 2015 #43

Bernie got an F rating from the NRA Bjorn Against May 2015 #23

Yes, but that means nothing. DanTex May 2015 #44

I agree with your post until the last line Bjorn Against May 2015 #58

Perfectly said! arcane1 May 2015 #59

Fair enough. DanTex May 2015 #70

I have never downplayed the issue of gun control Bjorn Against May 2015 #88

Fair enough, again. DanTex May 2015 #118

Yeah you may be one of that small number Bjorn Against May 2015 #125

Howard Dean as governor of Vermont was endorsed by the NRA... cascadiance May 2015 #123

N/T needed AuntPatsy May 2015 #27

I don't support anything I didn't a year ago much less last week. TheKentuckian May 2015 #32

Well at least your OP was meant to unify DU and not divide it! Rex May 2015 #33

LOL. GGJohn May 2015 #36

Well you know I don't like gun nuts...but I own a gun and live in Texas Rex May 2015 #39

Well said. eom. GGJohn May 2015 #40

LOL! Segami May 2015 #49

Don't be scared of guns...BE SCARED OF GUNS...wait...don't be scared of Rex May 2015 #53

Another strawman AgingAmerican May 2015 #37

Unrealistic, huh. I guess that's why the gun manufacturers needed special immunity. DanTex May 2015 #48

Special immunity? AgingAmerican May 2015 #63

Yes, special immunity. That's exactly what the law that Bernie voted for was about. DanTex May 2015 #74

Yes, but now he says his OP is satire. cui bono May 2015 #54

He must have read one of the links to the actual legislation AgingAmerican May 2015 #65

Grasping at strawmen? Mnpaul May 2015 #56

Do you know what a strawman is? AgingAmerican May 2015 #67

I'm agreeing with you Mnpaul May 2015 #81

Ah, ok AgingAmerican May 2015 #85

So far I agree with everything Sen Sanders says, including 2A issues tularetom May 2015 #46

No one has to apologize for anything. Puzzledtraveller May 2015 #47

What a crock. cui bono May 2015 #51

All it took was Hillary to turn DU into a bunch of war supporters! Bonobo May 2015 #64

ouch. Puzzledtraveller May 2015 #69

Truth hurts. nt darkangel218 May 2015 #76

I'm putting everyone in this thread on ignore. NYC_SKP May 2015 #83

What about me?? darkangel218 May 2015 #86

Ok. You're on unignore now. NYC_SKP May 2015 #95

LOL!! darkangel218 May 2015 #103

ha. aikoaiko May 2015 #102

It is actually funny watching Hillary fans grasping at everything they can to attack Marr May 2015 #106

Wow! Not many DUers are willing to openly champion a right-wing nut like George Grant! DanTex May 2015 #113

LOL, that's a stretch-- even for you. Marr May 2015 #117

A huge stretch! I mean, I had to actually look up that image you posted! DanTex May 2015 #120

No candidate is disqualified as of yet. morningfog May 2015 #114

You guys! AtomicKitten May 2015 #116

No shit, this board is beyond ridiculous workinclasszero May 2015 #130

The NRA has little to do with guns anymore ibegurpard May 2015 #131

Locking. Sissyk May 2015 #134