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1StrongBlackMan

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23. A lot depends on how the campaign is run ...

Thu May 7, 2015, 07:38 PM

May 2015

If the candidates go negative (even if that is what his/her supports would love to see), it is a bad thing and only divides the party. If, on the other hand, the primary race focuses on the issues and the candidates, at least act like they respect/like their opponent(s) and even acknowledge when their opponent has a valid point ... that would be fantastic.

Bottom line ... HRC supporters will not be moved off HRC by HRC-bashing; just like, Bernie supporters will not be moved off Bernie by Bernie-bashing. However, those in the middle might be swayed one way or the other for the wrong reasons ... the same reasons the gop will use to bash whomever is the eventual Democratic nominee. For example, expect to see: "HRC is a fake populist, joined at the hip to wall street" gop ads; or, "Bernie is a small market, self avowed SOCIALIST with bad hair" gop ads, just in time for the General Election, ... none of which helps Democrats (or progressives).

AND/but, they will leave off the, "But she/he is better than any republican" part. So, since that IS what those in the middle have heard for the last 1 1/2, so ... it must be true. So, Why vote?

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Let's just get this out in the open. [View all] kentuck May 2015 OP

The more the merrier. No matter what election. JaneyVee May 2015 #1

Ditto rock May 2015 #70

Coronations are for monarchies and Repukes. hifiguy May 2015 #2

Good by a long shot NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #3

Maybe it can give the eventual candidate a better sense of what voting Dems are thinking? CanonRay May 2015 #4

It's a very good thing to have multiple candidates. peacebird May 2015 #5

Good. blm May 2015 #6

I am glad Bernie is in the race. I am a Hillary upaloopa May 2015 #7

Exactly! You are spot on... CTyankee May 2015 #41

Well said. nt. NCTraveler May 2015 #47

IMO, the purpose of primaries should be to hash out which candidate best represents winter is coming May 2015 #8

Obviously the opposition has not hurt her in any way so I say go ahead and oppose! leftofcool May 2015 #9

You see what is wrong with your statement, correct? LondonReign2 May 2015 #43

GOP hasn't hurt her yet. She still beats most of them by double digits. leftofcool May 2015 #76

Not just good...essential. cyberswede May 2015 #10

Concur with that cyberswede! bluesbassman May 2015 #30

I oppose her because I want to win in the General. She is a loser for our party on that alone. NYC_SKP May 2015 #11

Good. I'd like to see more primaries in congressional races too n/t arcane1 May 2015 #12

Gonna exercise my new rule, do NOT respond to that group of people NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #13

I believe winning in 2016 is critical. I'd rather Clinton spend time and money speaking out against Hoyt May 2015 #14

Hi Hoyt. I too believe winning in 2016 is critical. lovemydog May 2015 #20

fighting off pests? seveneyes May 2015 #25

Obviously good (nt) CrawlingChaos May 2015 #15

If God wanted you to have a choice, there would be multiple Hillary Clintons. Liberal Veteran May 2015 #16

Very good. For example, Bernie Sanders has a sincere message lovemydog May 2015 #17

It gives the people choices and allows scrutiny of the candidates. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #18

It's a good thing. KMOD May 2015 #19

I think four or five more would be good. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #21

I agree. kentuck May 2015 #22

A lot depends on how the campaign is run ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #23

Agree with a lot of what you say. blue neen May 2015 #33

I don't understand Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2015 #24

Must be important? kentuck May 2015 #27

No matter how much talking folks do Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2015 #32

Are you saying that the Iowa caucuses is 18 months away? jwirr May 2015 #36

No Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2015 #59

Yes, and that is not the rush. We are working on the primaries now. Iowa and NH are the first ones jwirr May 2015 #61

and when is that date? Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2015 #71

I do not know what that date is because I no longer live in Iowa. But I know that is when the jwirr May 2015 #72

Voting between these two is much much closer than 18 months. nt. NCTraveler May 2015 #46

Of course it's a good thing. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2015 #26

good roody May 2015 #28

My original pick for prez has never won the nomination Gman May 2015 #29

Good. bigwillq May 2015 #31

AFN: Absolutely Fucking Necessary Throd May 2015 #34

In the primary, it is good. Having options is good otherwise why have a primary? uppityperson May 2015 #35

It's a good thing. Blue_In_AK May 2015 #37

Good for the party, good for her, good for the country Yo_Mama May 2015 #38

No objections to a fair fight but that's not what we've got here. ucrdem May 2015 #39

Being an independent is an unfair advantage? Who knew LondonReign2 May 2015 #44

Think about it. ucrdem May 2015 #48

ANYONE can do that tkmorris May 2015 #62

But they wouldn't ucrdem May 2015 #64

Enforceable guarantee? There isn't one. For anyone tkmorris May 2015 #65

Right, which is why he should run as an Independent. ucrdem May 2015 #66

Right. being an independent is so advantageous that everyone wants to do it! LondonReign2 May 2015 #73

LMAO, Hillary has 91% name recognition, hundreds of millions of $$$, DNC backing, has been merrily May 2015 #51

I'd rather avoid a Dem crash and burn though I imagine some would find it thrilling. nt ucrdem May 2015 #53

In your mind, it seems to be inconceivable that Hillary would lose the general. merrily May 2015 #55

I can think of many ways she could lose and a Nader maneuver is just one. nt ucrdem May 2015 #56

Where is your mind? yallerdawg May 2015 #58

How Bernie Sanders will help Hillary Clinton in the general election Gothmog May 2015 #40

I think it is a good thing - gets the Dems thinking about the issues and how significant DrDan May 2015 #42

It is good to support who you want to be in the general. NCTraveler May 2015 #45

I think it is the purpose of primaries to give people choices Marrah_G May 2015 #49

Whoever wants to run in the primaries should run. MineralMan May 2015 #50

I was in favor of Bernie joining the race. Seeing how his supporters act, now I am not so sure. stevenleser May 2015 #52

Take away TPP and Clinton Cash and Bernie has no campaign. ucrdem May 2015 #57

It's lazy and counterproductive. If I was advocating for Bernie, I would have a lot to say stevenleser May 2015 #67

Way Good. Hiraeth May 2015 #54

The framing of this question is utterly insane. True Blue Door May 2015 #60

Unlike Republicans, Democrats do not select the "next person in line." yellowcanine May 2015 #63

It is absolutely good. lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #68

I think we have a lot on the line in 2016 - TBF May 2015 #69

It's a waste of time. Clinton is being coronated and will preside as a far right "democrat" Doctor_J May 2015 #74

A robust primary season is essential. What is counterproductive is the scene at DU.... Hekate May 2015 #75

Having one name on the ballot reminds me of the old Soviet Union Binkie The Clown May 2015 #77

Well it depends on if you like democracy or not imo. Rex May 2015 #78