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In reply to the discussion: Has Hillary Gone Progressive? No, She’s Just Ripping Off Bernie Sanders [View all]L0oniX
(31,493 posts)95. Yeah and we should inform Haiti about that.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/01/19/bill-clintons-shameful-haiti-legacy.html
Bill Clinton's Shameful Haiti Legacy
He may be playing the hero now, but the ex-presidents trip to Haiti is a reminder of the mess his administration left behind. Bob Shacochis on how Clinton wasted a good invasion.
Like many Haitians and not a few Americans who know the island and its history, I had mixed feelings watching the video of former President Clinton step off a plane on to the tarmac at Toussaint Loverture International Airport in Port-au-Prince on Monday afternoon. Bill Clinton, the Second Coming of Hope. The First Coming, the U.S.-led invasion in 1994 adorned with 20,000 American troops, did not turn out so well. By 1996, when the American military decamped, youd be hard pressed to find a Haitian on the streets of Port-au-Prince who wasnt suffering miserably from hope. By 1996, Haitians were scratching their heads in bewilderment, asking themselves Why has America come to save us? Who will save us now? Ten years later, by almost every measure, Haiti was worse off than it was before Clinton had rescued it from the illegitimate regime of General Raoul Cedras and his gang of terrorist enforcers, known by the acronym FRAPH.
I had heard the Haitians saying of the U.S. after the American troops went home: Lave men ou, siye li a te. It looks like you wash your hands and dry them in dirt.
more at link
...and this doesn't cover Clinton's subsidizing rice farmers in the US which killed off the rice farmers in Haiti.
Bill Clinton's Shameful Haiti Legacy
He may be playing the hero now, but the ex-presidents trip to Haiti is a reminder of the mess his administration left behind. Bob Shacochis on how Clinton wasted a good invasion.
Like many Haitians and not a few Americans who know the island and its history, I had mixed feelings watching the video of former President Clinton step off a plane on to the tarmac at Toussaint Loverture International Airport in Port-au-Prince on Monday afternoon. Bill Clinton, the Second Coming of Hope. The First Coming, the U.S.-led invasion in 1994 adorned with 20,000 American troops, did not turn out so well. By 1996, when the American military decamped, youd be hard pressed to find a Haitian on the streets of Port-au-Prince who wasnt suffering miserably from hope. By 1996, Haitians were scratching their heads in bewilderment, asking themselves Why has America come to save us? Who will save us now? Ten years later, by almost every measure, Haiti was worse off than it was before Clinton had rescued it from the illegitimate regime of General Raoul Cedras and his gang of terrorist enforcers, known by the acronym FRAPH.
I had heard the Haitians saying of the U.S. after the American troops went home: Lave men ou, siye li a te. It looks like you wash your hands and dry them in dirt.
more at link
...and this doesn't cover Clinton's subsidizing rice farmers in the US which killed off the rice farmers in Haiti.
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Has Hillary Gone Progressive? No, She’s Just Ripping Off Bernie Sanders [View all]
L0oniX
May 2015
OP
It's way beyond that. The idea is to vote for who can win. Of course you need the most money too.
L0oniX
May 2015
#17
If she moves left it's only to get votes. It's temporary. Bigger bus being towed to larger location.
L0oniX
May 2015
#12
HRC's cynicism - note I said cynicism and I herein limit my analogy to that alone -
hifiguy
May 2015
#35
"Progressives" then and now April: we need a progressive candidate to move Hillary left.
delrem
May 2015
#91
What he has is a long track record. I didn't write the article but thanks for the kid insult.
L0oniX
May 2015
#24
The only thng about Clinton that is moving left is her rhetoric. And even that is
rhett o rick
May 2015
#23
Correct. Compare that with Bernie Sanders who has spent his entire political career
totodeinhere
May 2015
#111
So you don't care about our Seniors living in poverty? Well Okay...Lots of us do. nm
rhett o rick
May 2015
#108
I do care very much about immigration reform and that's why I want to vote for a
totodeinhere
May 2015
#110
She will pull an Obama. He promised he would close Gitmo. Jeeze he couldn't forsee
rhett o rick
May 2015
#109
Certainly she is capable of forming her own ideas and thoughts in order to get votes.
L0oniX
May 2015
#68
why don't you focus on pushing the candidate of your choice, instead of dissing another one.
still_one
May 2015
#28
I didn't write the article. Are you trying to control what gets posted? Good luck.
L0oniX
May 2015
#65
I am just giving my opinion, and of course I am sure the post was just to be cynically
still_one
May 2015
#97
Hillary is basically in the same positions she has been for years, seems like
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#30
"Bernie may profit from moving in Hillary's direction" Bwahahah I can see the money pouring in now.
L0oniX
May 2015
#61
Well, its his choice, he can try to run past left or jump in the game to win.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#101
You really think that him being anti Citizens United that he will take money from its benefits?
L0oniX
May 2015
#106
To cry "unfair" ??? Control F search "unfair". Nope din't say that. Thanks for playing.
L0oniX
May 2015
#58
I didn't write that but thanks for thinking I did. Try reading the link next time.
L0oniX
May 2015
#79
There's a huge difference between talking 'left' and 'doing left' she may talk the talk but
YOHABLO
May 2015
#43
Hillary has always been a liberal! Its Sanders followers that ling about Hillary!
lewebley3
May 2015
#44
He does own his years of fighting for progressive ideals. He's not some Johnny come lately...
L0oniX
May 2015
#73
Of course he doesn't have a lock on political positions. Nobody is saying
totodeinhere
May 2015
#112
I can't and won't trust a politician that changes what they say only to win elections.
L0oniX
May 2015
#88