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L0oniX

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95. Yeah and we should inform Haiti about that.
Thu May 7, 2015, 08:17 PM
May 2015
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/01/19/bill-clintons-shameful-haiti-legacy.html

Bill Clinton's Shameful Haiti Legacy

He may be playing the hero now, but the ex-president’s trip to Haiti is a reminder of the mess his administration left behind. Bob Shacochis on how Clinton wasted a good invasion.
Like many Haitians and not a few Americans who know the island and its history, I had mixed feelings watching the video of former President Clinton step off a plane on to the tarmac at Toussaint Loverture International Airport in Port-au-Prince on Monday afternoon. Bill Clinton, the Second Coming of Hope. The First Coming, the U.S.-led invasion in 1994 adorned with 20,000 American troops, did not turn out so well. By 1996, when the American military decamped, you’d be hard pressed to find a Haitian on the streets of Port-au-Prince who wasn’t suffering miserably from hope. By 1996, Haitians were scratching their heads in bewilderment, asking themselves Why has America come to save us? Who will save us now? Ten years later, by almost every measure, Haiti was worse off than it was before Clinton had “rescued” it from the illegitimate regime of General Raoul Cedras and his gang of terrorist enforcers, known by the acronym FRAPH.

I had heard the Haitians saying of the U.S. after the American troops went home: “Lave men ou, siye li a te. It looks like you wash your hands and dry them in dirt.”

more at link

...and this doesn't cover Clinton's subsidizing rice farmers in the US which killed off the rice farmers in Haiti.

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Clinton, triangulate? MannyGoldstein May 2015 #1
Okie dokie. leftofcool May 2015 #2
Something she can't get Nite Owl May 2015 #3
Well that's it isn't it? Bernie has a long track record of being a progressive. L0oniX May 2015 #6
Yes but even here of all places.. sendero May 2015 #11
It's way beyond that. The idea is to vote for who can win. Of course you need the most money too. L0oniX May 2015 #17
As I've learned .. sendero May 2015 #19
If money were the sole deciding factor, Governor Fiorina would be stumping.. frylock May 2015 #34
Vote for who can win? -none May 2015 #107
Talk is cheap. k&r polichick May 2015 #4
Has she been giving campaign speeches yet? Autumn May 2015 #5
Nada. L0oniX May 2015 #7
Didn't think I had heard anything. Autumn May 2015 #16
Hey, It takes time to reach consensus from all the consultants. Buns_of_Fire May 2015 #36
Don't sell Elizabeth Warren short. AtomicKitten May 2015 #8
LOL... sendero May 2015 #13
I agree with this BrotherIvan May 2015 #15
"Progressives" then and now wyldwolf May 2015 #9
You caught that too, eh? leftofcool May 2015 #10
If she moves left it's only to get votes. It's temporary. Bigger bus being towed to larger location. L0oniX May 2015 #12
Yeah okay, the middle is quadruple the size of the left. JaneyVee May 2015 #20
Yeah ...what she believes will get her a win. L0oniX May 2015 #21
HRC's cynicism - note I said cynicism and I herein limit my analogy to that alone - hifiguy May 2015 #35
June: WAAAAH! JaneyVee May 2015 #18
Nobody supports a progressive candidate just to "move Hillary left". delrem May 2015 #81
No one said that either wyldwolf May 2015 #83
"Progressives" then and now April: we need a progressive candidate to move Hillary left. delrem May 2015 #91
You're still not reading my post. wyldwolf May 2015 #93
I quoted your post verbatim. nt delrem May 2015 #94
But it doesn't say what you claimed it said up thread wyldwolf May 2015 #96
True. No one has ever said that. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #103
Progressives aren't *that* naive! delrem May 2015 #104
Because, obviously, Bernie Sanders invented progressivism! Clearly! DanTex May 2015 #14
No, Bernie did not invent progressism, bvar22 May 2015 #39
that is not a good argument drray23 May 2015 #22
What he has is a long track record. I didn't write the article but thanks for the kid insult. L0oniX May 2015 #24
oh i dont dispute that. drray23 May 2015 #27
i apologize for that snide remark. I could have made my point without it. nt. drray23 May 2015 #31
The only thng about Clinton that is moving left is her rhetoric. And even that is rhett o rick May 2015 #23
But immigration! Look at the shiny!! Triangulation lives. n/t winter is coming May 2015 #52
So you don't care about immigration reform? Okay... Lots of us do care. (NT) PBass May 2015 #98
Actually, I do care about immigration reform. winter is coming May 2015 #100
Correct. Compare that with Bernie Sanders who has spent his entire political career totodeinhere May 2015 #111
So you don't care about our Seniors living in poverty? Well Okay...Lots of us do. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #108
I do care very much about immigration reform and that's why I want to vote for a totodeinhere May 2015 #110
Completely agree. If she wins they'll be a whole hughee99 May 2015 #66
I wonder what kind of powder it is that they have to keep so dry? Art_from_Ark May 2015 #70
She will pull an Obama. He promised he would close Gitmo. Jeeze he couldn't forsee rhett o rick May 2015 #109
True Charles de Gaudless May 2015 #25
Wait, 2 weeks ago I thought she was ripping off Warren justiceischeap May 2015 #26
O'Mally, Warren, and Sanders are REAL Progressives. bvar22 May 2015 #42
^^^this^^^ L0oniX May 2015 #69
I like what you post. DocMac May 2015 #80
Certainly she is capable of forming her own ideas and thoughts in order to get votes. L0oniX May 2015 #68
why don't you focus on pushing the candidate of your choice, instead of dissing another one. still_one May 2015 #28
The former is far less Rec-generating than the latter. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #60
I didn't write the article. Are you trying to control what gets posted? Good luck. L0oniX May 2015 #65
I am just giving my opinion, and of course I am sure the post was just to be cynically still_one May 2015 #97
Cool story, bro! n/t Dr Hobbitstein May 2015 #29
Hillary is basically in the same positions she has been for years, seems like Thinkingabout May 2015 #30
"Bernie may profit from moving in Hillary's direction" Bwahahah I can see the money pouring in now. L0oniX May 2015 #61
Well, its his choice, he can try to run past left or jump in the game to win. Thinkingabout May 2015 #101
You really think that him being anti Citizens United that he will take money from its benefits? L0oniX May 2015 #106
Exactly. TM99 May 2015 #64
+1 L0oniX May 2015 #77
Sorry, missed again huh. Maybe you can still join the winning team. Thinkingabout May 2015 #102
I see you have no arguments TM99 May 2015 #105
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So what? I'd rather have these two in our camp babylonsister May 2015 #33
K&R. JDPriestly May 2015 #37
Would I like to see Sanders win the nomination? MrModerate May 2015 #38
Why post this at Democratic Underground? MaggieD May 2015 #40
"record as a liberal" Uhm the title says "progressive" Wrong thread? L0oniX May 2015 #59
Are you new to politics? MaggieD May 2015 #62
How many DUers understand the Game of Politics? TerrapinFlyer May 2015 #41
To cry "unfair" ??? Control F search "unfair". Nope din't say that. Thanks for playing. L0oniX May 2015 #58
"thanks for playing" TerrapinFlyer May 2015 #72
Please do keep coming up with words that aren't there. L0oniX May 2015 #75
"she's just ripping off Bernie Sanders" TerrapinFlyer May 2015 #78
I didn't write that but thanks for thinking I did. Try reading the link next time. L0oniX May 2015 #79
Maybe you are not understanding... TerrapinFlyer May 2015 #84
There's a huge difference between talking 'left' and 'doing left' she may talk the talk but YOHABLO May 2015 #43
Yes, there is a big difference between the Dem's and GOP lewebley3 May 2015 #45
Hillary has always been a liberal! Its Sanders followers that ling about Hillary! lewebley3 May 2015 #44
Liberal? Did you respond in the wrong thread? The title says "progressive". L0oniX May 2015 #51
Same thing, Progressive means people who want to share, for the most part! lewebley3 May 2015 #87
Isn't that what everybody wanted? Laser102 May 2015 #46
You have no problem with her last minute move to progressive? L0oniX May 2015 #53
How dare Hillary espouse progressive ideas. Cali_Democrat May 2015 #47
Whoosh. L0oniX May 2015 #54
Fantasy world. nt Cali_Democrat May 2015 #67
Another day, another attack...All i can do is: DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #48
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So, should we seat you in the ... L0oniX May 2015 #71
Yes. Please do. Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #74
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I'd rather win ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #90
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Bernie has no lock on any political treestar May 2015 #57
He does own his years of fighting for progressive ideals. He's not some Johnny come lately... L0oniX May 2015 #73
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Triangulation? Repackaging? Coopting? "Me too"? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #63
Warning: Incoming Metaphors nikto May 2015 #82
Bwahahahaha L0oniX May 2015 #86
Before she decided on getting in the 2008 race hootinholler May 2015 #85
I can't and won't trust a politician that changes what they say only to win elections. L0oniX May 2015 #88
Hilary will be the same sort of champion of the middle class and especially the poor as her husband azurnoir May 2015 #89
Yeah and we should inform Haiti about that. L0oniX May 2015 #95
Headline sounds like one of those hipster bloggers LuvLoogie May 2015 #92
Let's just wait patiently aspirant May 2015 #113
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