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In reply to the discussion: Ralph Nader outlines 2016 plan [View all]TM99
(8,352 posts)25. You been living under a rock?
Wikipedia to start -
Post recount
On January 6, 2001, a joint session of Congress met to certify the electoral vote. Twenty members of the House of Representatives, most of them Democratic members of the Congressional Black Caucus, rose one-by-one to file objections to the electoral votes of Florida. However, according to an 1877 law, any such objection had to be sponsored by both a representative and a senator. No senator would co-sponsor these objections, deferring to the Supreme Court's ruling. Therefore, Gore, who presided in his capacity as President of the Senate, ruled each of these objections out of order.[64]
Subsequently, the joint session of Congress certified the electoral votes from all 50 states and the District of Columbia. Bush took the oath of office on January 20, 2001. He would serve for the next eight years. Gore declined to run for president in 2004 and 2008.
The first independent recount was conducted by the Miami Herald and USA Today. The commission found that under most recount scenarios, Bush would have won the election, but Gore would have won using the most generous standards.[65]
Ultimately, a media consortiumcomprising the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Tribune Co. (parent of the Los Angeles Times), Associated Press, CNN, Palm Beach Post and St. Petersburg Times[66]hired the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago[67] to examine 175,010 ballots that were collected from the entire state, not just the disputed counties that were discounted; these ballots contained undervotes (votes with no choice made for president) and overvotes (votes made with more than one choice marked). Their goal was to determine the reliability and accuracy of the systems used for the voting process. The NORC concluded that if the disputes over the validity of all the ballots statewide in question had been consistently resolved and any uniform standard applied, the electoral result would have been reversed and Gore would have won by 107115 votes if only two of the three coders had to agree on the ballot. When counting ballots wherein all three coders agreed, Gore would have won the most restrictive scenario by 127 votes and Bush would have won the most inclusive scenario by 110 votes. Inclusive in media reporting likely refers to including the undervotes (only) as these people were then included in the vote. Whether overvotes were truly nullified in counts is not known.[68]
Subsequent analyses cast further doubt on conclusions that Bush likely would have won anyway, had the U.S. Supreme Court not intervened. An analysis of the NORC data by University of Pennsylvania researcher Steven F. Freeman and journalist Joel Bleifuss concluded that a recount of all uncounted votes using any standard (inclusive, strict, statewide or county by county), Gore would have been the victor.[69] Such a statewide review including all uncounted votes was a very real possibility, as Leon County Circuit Court Judge Terry Lewis, whom the Florida Supreme Court had assigned to oversee the statewide recount, had scheduled a hearing for December 13 (mooted by the U.S. Supreme Court's final ruling on the 12th) to consider the question of including overvotes as well as undervotes, and subsequent statements by Judge Lewis and internal court documents support the likelihood of including overvotes in the recount.[70] Florida State University professor of public policy Lance deHaven-Smith observed that, even considering only undervotes, "under any of the five most reasonable interpretations of the Florida Supreme Court ruling, Gore does, in fact, more than make up the deficit".[71] Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting's analysis of the NORC study and media coverage of it supports these interpretations and criticizes the coverage of the study by media outlets such as the New York Times and the other media consortium members.[66]
This link details all of the myths and if you take the time to read all links in it, you will see that your opinion is not factual and is quite ignorant.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/06/1260721/-The-Nader-Myth
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"a criteria"? Ralph needs some English lessons. Oh, and also, he should shut up.
HERVEPA
May 2015
#2
97,000 Floridians voted for Nader. 308,000 Florida Democrats voted for Bush.
Comrade Grumpy
May 2015
#50
As long as his plans don't include intentionally or unintentionally getting a Republican elected...
stevenleser
May 2015
#6
I saw that. Nader and Code Pink both. It's disappointing. I keep telling those folks that
stevenleser
May 2015
#12
"Ralph Nader calls for a union between libertarians and progressives and the impeachment of Obama"
Tarheel_Dem
May 2015
#32
Yup, and he's found a lot of gullible people here. But in this billionaire-for-President thing
pnwmom
May 2015
#35
He's going to "find" 10 "enlightened" liberal billionaires we somehow don't know about yet
pnwmom
May 2015
#34
Nader and his supporters in 2000 are a big reason why we're in the situation we are now.
Renew Deal
May 2015
#44
“I’m going to find at least ten enlightened billionaires or multibillionaires" All you need to
yellowcanine
May 2015
#46