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Fri May 8, 2015, 08:38 AM

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America is about to make a horrible mistake all over again [View all] RiverLover May 2015 OP

Does this sound familiar? Deja Vu is headed our way... RiverLover May 2015 #1

Because if our deomcratic sulphurdunn May 2015 #42

Boom. You nailed it! GoneFishin May 2015 #55

Clinton gave us the Digital Millennium Copyright Act hifiguy May 2015 #120

Because we have no true Labor Party ... Fantastic Anarchist May 2015 #78

HUGE K&R Never forget that NEOLIBERALS are pushing this shit on workers scam. 99Forever May 2015 #2

Correct. And I believe that is how you get backlash votes like the TBF May 2015 #22

ding ding ding! RiverLover May 2015 #53

+1 BrotherIvan May 2015 #56

Absolutely Exactly. nt Fantastic Anarchist May 2015 #79

Well NAFTA was literally a Republican deal, originated, negotiated and signed by George Bush Bluenorthwest May 2015 #3

Why did Clinton "walk through" a republican deal? He sold it to Americans! Myself included. RiverLover May 2015 #5

Bill kept NAFTA because he was wrong. Why did the author of this piece leave Bush out of the NAFTA Bluenorthwest May 2015 #10

LOL I agree: RiverLover May 2015 #13

I suspect ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #40

Who cares where it came from? Fantastic Anarchist May 2015 #80

Good post Dem2 May 2015 #52

Apparently you missed the point of the OP. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #74

The reason that Bush wasn't mentioned is a distraction from the point of the OP. rhett o rick May 2015 #69

I have a friend that does this. Maedhros May 2015 #71

There is no reason to edit out Bush - TBF May 2015 #25

Bubba did more than sign it. merrily May 2015 #28

You would think sulphurdunn May 2015 #47

Nice synopsis from sulpherdunn the question is... sorechasm May 2015 #96

+1! Warren gave good ex of this, a French company that sued Egypt because Egypt raised its minimum RiverLover May 2015 #97

Well, you kind of miss one important point -- the state can sue the corporation in their own courts. Hoyt May 2015 #112

There have been twice sulphurdunn May 2015 #113

Can you point to one case where the corporation won on raising minimum wage, anti-smoking campaigns? Hoyt May 2015 #114

When referring to countries sulphurdunn May 2015 #115

Hopefully, you looked for examples and have learned there aren't many. Hoyt May 2015 #116

Corporations are not altruistic. sulphurdunn May 2015 #117

+1000 nt. polly7 May 2015 #118

He did. cheapdate May 2015 #54

Plus Clinton's VP, our beloved Al Gore, made the case for it in a debate RufusTFirefly May 2015 #62

Definitely Poppy's brain child. On the other hand Bubba did a lot more than merely walk it through. merrily May 2015 #30

I'll bet many of us mocked Ross Perot and his "giant sucking sound," though. J/S. WinkyDink May 2015 #4

Not me. I didn't vote for Perot, but whatever else you may have thought of him, maddiemom May 2015 #6

I did vote for him kacekwl May 2015 #8

Me too. I was pretty young. He made a lot of sense. I went with it. Ed Suspicious May 2015 #17

Same, I knew these bastards were waiting like a spider in a web to ship high-paying jobs elsewhere. BlueJazz May 2015 #19

No regrets for me at all voting for Perot. He was far from ideal I understand that also. Person 2713 May 2015 #31

So did I Mojorabbit May 2015 #48

I almost voted for him, but when he dropped out davidpdx May 2015 #88

I remember how Perot was mocked for his charts and graphs. Maedhros May 2015 #72

Yep RiverLover May 2015 #7

As kooky as that guy seemed, he did make sense sometimes. HappyMe May 2015 #11

Right? He came across as a dweeb, really a shame. The message got lost in the messenger. nt RiverLover May 2015 #12

I kind of liked the dweeb type thing though. HappyMe May 2015 #14

I would like that now that I'm older & wiser. lol RiverLover May 2015 #16

And some of his message ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #41

Whew! Doc Holliday May 2015 #51

That's not even "20/20 hindsight" ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #59

I voted for him as well Punx May 2015 #27

My Favorite Wingnut uses that phrase all the time in attacking Clinton. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #35

Wall Street Wins. Octafish May 2015 #9

Its getting old. Really old. We're the perpetual Bad News Bears, always losing to corporations RiverLover May 2015 #15

I agree. HappyMe May 2015 #23

Fight the future! yallerdawg May 2015 #18

this is NOT the only template for trade. cali May 2015 #20

Thanks for the view from the US Chamber of Commerce. nt Romulox May 2015 #21

It's beyond laughable... sendero May 2015 #29

So it's failed every previous time, but this time it'll work! jeff47 May 2015 #37

Healthcare reform failed every previous time (for the last 50 years), too ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #43

If that were true, we'd also have seen leaks of the "good" parts of the TPP. jeff47 May 2015 #45

Why would you assume that? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #49

Because there's no reason to not believe it. jeff47 May 2015 #50

Wait ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #73

History did not start yesterday. jeff47 May 2015 #119

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #121

Failing to pass proposals and actually passing failures is a nonsensical comparison TheKentuckian May 2015 #76

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #82

Health Insurance reform you mean. TM99 May 2015 #94

Truth!!^^^ RiverLover May 2015 #95

See post #100 for reality. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #101

Actually, I meant "healthcare financing reform" ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #100

I love it when advocates of single payer attack ACA as "just insurance reform"... Recursion May 2015 #106

Universal health care or medicare for all TM99 May 2015 #107

Umm... Medicare is "insurance". You do realize that, right? Recursion May 2015 #108

I know exactly what it is TM99 May 2015 #109

Apparently you don't, since you mentioned Europe. I don't think any European country Recursion May 2015 #110

I don't see the parallels Bradical79 May 2015 #99

The parallel is ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #103

"Health Care Reform" failed this time too - bread_and_roses May 2015 #104

See Post 100 ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #105

LOL, nice try! nt Logical May 2015 #65

We're making progress on getting the facts out. yallerdawg May 2015 #66

"What massive trade agreement do we have with China?" It's called PNTR. hedda_foil May 2015 #90

So you are telling me... yallerdawg May 2015 #91

No, every country we trade with does not get onto status. It's what used to be called most favored hedda_foil May 2015 #92

They moved to Mexico for a year or two... kentuck May 2015 #24

And the resultant crash of the Mexican economy, combined with Jackpine Radical May 2015 #36

So without NAFTA, "they" would have stayed in the US for another "year or two" and then "moved pampango May 2015 #75

Kick and R. BeanMusical May 2015 #26

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT May 2015 #32

No, America's Leadership is About fredamae May 2015 #33

The ones putting this shit in place do not care about the working classes Marrah_G May 2015 #34

According the CEO types in this country Americans don't WANT manufacturing jobs.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #38

Not a mistake RoccoR5955 May 2015 #39

NAFTA worked exactly as intended. Maybe even better than intended. pa28 May 2015 #70

Really interesting post, pa28 RiverLover May 2015 #83

THIS^^^^^^^ SomeGuyInEagan May 2015 #123

K&R! Phlem May 2015 #44

The hits to the working and middle classes just keep on coming.... blackspade May 2015 #46

Raise your hand if you think this makes her extremely vulnerable in the general BrotherIvan May 2015 #57

It was a huge reason many supported Obama instead in 2008 - TBF May 2015 #58

Zactly BrotherIvan May 2015 #60

If a (D) signs it Puzzledtraveller May 2015 #61

I really don't like the tone of the article . . FairWinds May 2015 #63

You make good points - TBF May 2015 #64

Exactly! nikto May 2015 #77

Here's some international action ag TPP...if only we could coordinate! RiverLover May 2015 #84

point well taken ibegurpard May 2015 #87

I say NAFTA.... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #67

Not a mistake. NAFTA did exactly what it was supposed to and what was expected. pa28 May 2015 #68

I believe Obama believes the TPP will do good for "us". jomin41 May 2015 #81

he believes no such thing Skittles May 2015 #86

Every president must leave office, but not before setting in motion the means to fuck over whereisjustice May 2015 #85

Clintonia yadig May 2015 #89

K & R AzDar May 2015 #93

Clinton-Obama-Clinton = NAFTA-TPP-??? polichick May 2015 #98

Seriously!! RiverLover May 2015 #122

It's not a mistake, LWolf May 2015 #102

Dragging out middle class down to the Mexican standard of living... krispos42 May 2015 #111