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In reply to the discussion: America is about to make a horrible mistake all over again [View all]yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)18. Fight the future!
That "giant sucking sound" is called capitalism. This is the economic system we live under.
What massive trade agreement do we have with China? Did Walmart and Apple tell us all about it?
What's that old story? When they came up with the light bulb, think what would it do to the candle makers? And of course Henry Ford - If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.
Kill these trade partnerships to save jobs? Smoke and mirrors, folks, smoke and mirrors.
Past trade deals like NAFTA have not always lived up to the hype and the President is the first to recognize that. Thats why he is working with Congress to upgrade our existing trade deals with one that reflects American values. Its called the Trans-Pacific Partnership the most progressive trade agreement the world has ever seen.
The Trans-Pacific Partnership is a negotiation with 11 countries in the Asia Pacific, including Canada and Mexico. Through the Trans-Pacific Partnership we are renegotiating NAFTA and instituting stronger, fully enforceable labor and environmental standards. These high standards will not only bring hundreds of millions of people under enforceable labor standards and protect endangered wildlife in one of the fastest growing regions of the worldthey will also help level the playing field for workers and businesses here at home by ensuring our trade partners are playing by the rules.
To help deliver the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the President is also asking Congress to work together to pass bipartisan Trade Promotion Authority which will help guarantee that America speaks with one voice on trade priorities like protecting our workers and environment.
The Trans-Pacific Partnership is a negotiation with 11 countries in the Asia Pacific, including Canada and Mexico. Through the Trans-Pacific Partnership we are renegotiating NAFTA and instituting stronger, fully enforceable labor and environmental standards. These high standards will not only bring hundreds of millions of people under enforceable labor standards and protect endangered wildlife in one of the fastest growing regions of the worldthey will also help level the playing field for workers and businesses here at home by ensuring our trade partners are playing by the rules.
To help deliver the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the President is also asking Congress to work together to pass bipartisan Trade Promotion Authority which will help guarantee that America speaks with one voice on trade priorities like protecting our workers and environment.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/trade
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Well NAFTA was literally a Republican deal, originated, negotiated and signed by George Bush
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#3
Why did Clinton "walk through" a republican deal? He sold it to Americans! Myself included.
RiverLover
May 2015
#5
Bill kept NAFTA because he was wrong. Why did the author of this piece leave Bush out of the NAFTA
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#10
The reason that Bush wasn't mentioned is a distraction from the point of the OP.
rhett o rick
May 2015
#69
+1! Warren gave good ex of this, a French company that sued Egypt because Egypt raised its minimum
RiverLover
May 2015
#97
Well, you kind of miss one important point -- the state can sue the corporation in their own courts.
Hoyt
May 2015
#112
Can you point to one case where the corporation won on raising minimum wage, anti-smoking campaigns?
Hoyt
May 2015
#114
Definitely Poppy's brain child. On the other hand Bubba did a lot more than merely walk it through.
merrily
May 2015
#30
I'll bet many of us mocked Ross Perot and his "giant sucking sound," though. J/S.
WinkyDink
May 2015
#4
Not me. I didn't vote for Perot, but whatever else you may have thought of him,
maddiemom
May 2015
#6
Same, I knew these bastards were waiting like a spider in a web to ship high-paying jobs elsewhere.
BlueJazz
May 2015
#19
No regrets for me at all voting for Perot. He was far from ideal I understand that also.
Person 2713
May 2015
#31
Right? He came across as a dweeb, really a shame. The message got lost in the messenger. nt
RiverLover
May 2015
#12
My Favorite Wingnut uses that phrase all the time in attacking Clinton.
Jackpine Radical
May 2015
#35
Its getting old. Really old. We're the perpetual Bad News Bears, always losing to corporations
RiverLover
May 2015
#15
Healthcare reform failed every previous time (for the last 50 years), too ...
1StrongBlackMan
May 2015
#43
Failing to pass proposals and actually passing failures is a nonsensical comparison
TheKentuckian
May 2015
#76
I love it when advocates of single payer attack ACA as "just insurance reform"...
Recursion
May 2015
#106
Apparently you don't, since you mentioned Europe. I don't think any European country
Recursion
May 2015
#110
No, every country we trade with does not get onto status. It's what used to be called most favored
hedda_foil
May 2015
#92
So without NAFTA, "they" would have stayed in the US for another "year or two" and then "moved
pampango
May 2015
#75
According the CEO types in this country Americans don't WANT manufacturing jobs....
Spitfire of ATJ
May 2015
#38
Raise your hand if you think this makes her extremely vulnerable in the general
BrotherIvan
May 2015
#57
Every president must leave office, but not before setting in motion the means to fuck over
whereisjustice
May 2015
#85