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yardwork

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66. The underlying mentality in this case is no mt what you say, though.

Sat May 9, 2015, 09:16 AM

May 2015

The murderer's underlying mentality is revealed by his murder of the entire family. The other members of his family had no disability. His mind is disordered. You can't use this as an example of what you say it is. You're making your argument look silly.

There may be valid arguments against physician associated suicide but this example doesn't support them.

The difference is that with PAS the person decides that they want to commit suicide. The victims in this case you cite made no such choice.

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Dad confesses to murdering family on Facebook to save daughter from migraines [View all] KamaAina May 2015 OP

She's beautiful LeftInTX May 2015 #1

I find it disturbing that you use this article Cal Carpenter May 2015 #2

Ditto. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #7

Wholeheartedly agree DeadLetterOffice May 2015 #12

Same here. NO comparison. MoonRiver May 2015 #14

So do I, and I suffered from horrific migraines for many years. winter is coming May 2015 #16

^^^ Absolutely! Duppers May 2015 #60

Agree. Cheap and exploitive REP May 2015 #25

Jury results for the OP: 3-4 Electric Monk May 2015 #36

Yeah, that's some bullshit. nt Codeine May 2015 #42

Completely agree! NutmegYankee May 2015 #70

+1 gollygee May 2015 #72

Whenever I start to feel sorry for myself, I just thank God I'm still alive. Fla Dem May 2015 #86

imo this is not the mentality if physician assisted Suicide elehhhhna May 2015 #3

Exactly . . . markpkessinger May 2015 #38

Well at least there was a crime actually confessed on FB nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #4

wtf? what does this psychotic piece of shit have to do with cali May 2015 #5

The all-too-common idea that life with pain and/or disability is not worth living KamaAina May 2015 #13

Bullshit DeadLetterOffice May 2015 #19

But he didn't. KamaAina May 2015 #21

No, your point is to create a false equivalence, to lie, to attempt to spread FUD... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #28

Which is a spectacularly poor way to convince people that physician-assisted suicide winter is coming May 2015 #34

Yeah, I know, it would be more convincing to use truly equivalent scenarios... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #35

And that also has nothing at all to do with physician cali May 2015 #23

The murderer is clearly mentally ill. Barking mad. yardwork May 2015 #39

It seems the OP considers physician assisted suicide a type or mental illness. morningfog May 2015 #49

The OP considers PAS dangerous to people with disabilities. KamaAina May 2015 #51

Fine. That's you're opinion. I disagree, but there is still morningfog May 2015 #52

It is all about the underlying mentality KamaAina May 2015 #55

The underlying mentality here was mental illness. morningfog May 2015 #56

The underlying mentality in this case is no mt what you say, though. yardwork May 2015 #66

It's amazing that went over so many heads. nt bananas May 2015 #40

This has nothing to do with migraines or disability. Feron May 2015 #71

What did he kill his wife and sister for? LisaL May 2015 #6

"then I shot laurel because no mother elehhhhna May 2015 #8

He is just a Prince, isn't he? LisaL May 2015 #11

benevolent, in his mind elehhhhna May 2015 #62

You are fearmongering. Lars39 May 2015 #9

Then why did he pick her migraines as his excuse? KamaAina May 2015 #15

Because it's a way of distancing himself from the act. winter is coming May 2015 #17

You said it yourself... Lars39 May 2015 #29

Why would he pick anything as his Excuse? Because it was an excuse to murder. uppityperson May 2015 #33

Wow wheniwasincongress May 2015 #85

Could you dip any lower into the bowels of depravity? What an atrocious exploitative use of this... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #10

Also, you're wrong about Latimer's prison sentence. DeadLetterOffice May 2015 #18

Edited. KamaAina May 2015 #20

Thank you. DeadLetterOffice May 2015 #22

You didn't complete the editing. IMO Lochloosa May 2015 #24

Please document a physician prescribing family annihilation for anything REP May 2015 #26

Typical Pro-Lie tactics: when the facts aren't there, just make shit up REP May 2015 #27

"Pro-Lie"? KamaAina May 2015 #46

You lose that bet. REP May 2015 #80

Cool! Then you'll understand this KamaAina May 2015 #81

This has zero to do with assisted suicide ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2015 #30

But look at what defense he made KamaAina May 2015 #47

The man is a psychopath ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2015 #77

This has absolutely nothing to do with physician assisted suicide Warpy May 2015 #31

'Farcebook' FTW! KamaAina May 2015 #45

This is in no way any way comparable to "physician-assisted suicide". It is murder and uppityperson May 2015 #32

It is not at all comparable KamaAina May 2015 #44

Do you really believe the words of a murderer using it as an excuse? polly7 May 2015 #48

A cancer patient in Oregon got told that her chemo wouldn't be covered KamaAina May 2015 #53

Well that's horrible. polly7 May 2015 #57

That's an indictment of US healthcare, but it's got nothing to do with PAS. winter is coming May 2015 #59

That is disgraceful but still not an argument against making a choice legal. yardwork May 2015 #67

Which still doesn't support your contention Godhumor May 2015 #73

Death with Dignity neither devalues disability nor has anything to do with disability uppityperson May 2015 #54

...says the person who just compared it. Donald Ian Rankin May 2015 #69

Re: "Not The Onion!!" 951-Riverside May 2015 #37

I found the headline to be rather Onion-like KamaAina May 2015 #43

It is preposterous. Good you recognize it has nothing morningfog May 2015 #50

This has NOTHING to do with being allowed to die with dignity, and it's pretty damned polly7 May 2015 #41

Maybe if his religion didn't teach him Mariana May 2015 #58

My first reaction as well Egnever May 2015 #61

He murdered her so she'd be in heaven. This is more of an argument against religion than Marr May 2015 #63

Physician assisted suicide is the choice of the person who Lint Head May 2015 #64

But that choice can be influenced by family, doctors, etc. KamaAina May 2015 #76

Do you believe in humane ending of life for your pet? I hope so. polly7 May 2015 #78

Comparing people to pets? KamaAina May 2015 #82

No, polly7 May 2015 #83

That case had *nothing* to do with physician-assisted suicide. winter is coming May 2015 #79

Physician assisted suicide is assisted because the person Lint Head May 2015 #84

He was an evil psychopath, nothing else n2doc May 2015 #65

Shameful, morally repugnant bullshit. Donald Ian Rankin May 2015 #68

No, unlike us, he decided the person should die. KamaAina May 2015 #75

You should a stuck with the instrumentality of the deaths. Eleanors38 May 2015 #74

Actually the OP and the murderer shares the philosophy... Springslips May 2015 #87

This is a crazy person. Migraines are not a terminal illness. Oneironaut May 2015 #88