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raouldukelives

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72. On my political radar he is a centrist.

Sat May 9, 2015, 11:27 AM

May 2015

When I look at the polls of what average Americans want, and the positions of Sen. Sanders, I see him tracking straight down the middle.

The only thing pulling us away from those intentions is corporate cash. This is what every investor in Wall St silently funds & supports. Corporate attacks against our democracy, our environment, our labor laws, our criminal justice system, and our future.

While others are trying to GOTV and discuss the importance of electing good people and defeating bad initiatives. They are funding the very attacks against us. Funding propaganda, lobbyists, climate change deniers, restrictive voting, redistricting, corporate apologists.

They are the only ones holding back the future we strive to create. Every dollar an extra brick in the wall against glimpses of reality.

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Every word I have heard from Bernie Sanders [View all] hifiguy May 2015 OP

Indeed! Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2015 #1

The Teabag Party is a very recent political party lunatica May 2015 #2

What does that have to do with the Democratic party? hootinholler May 2015 #66

I'm responding to the OP's question lunatica May 2015 #74

Bernie is an independent uwep May 2015 #84

With Democrats pushing a payroll tax cut for a third year in a row JonLP24 May 2015 #99

I think you responded to the wrong OP. cui bono May 2015 #73

No I didn't lunatica May 2015 #75

Ah, okay, that makes sense now. Thanks. cui bono May 2015 #77

Because he can't be bribed or bought imnew May 2015 #3

Whoever manages his twitter feed quoted FDR a day or so ago. Triana May 2015 #4

What do you mean He may not win madokie May 2015 #54

I see him more as a Truman JonLP24 May 2015 #100

I also see him as a Truman type: hifiguy May 2015 #111

"Harry Truman is unflinching. He has no intention of backing down." Triana May 2015 #112

why is he on the "fringe?" 99% of Americans are the fringe carolinayellowdog May 2015 #5

All the Sensible Centrist Woodchucks hifiguy May 2015 #6

They need for us to think he's Mao. 'Cause if people realize he's not, winter is coming May 2015 #7

There it is BrotherIvan May 2015 #28

No shenmue May 2015 #15

But they are very much in the minority. Bernie is by far the most representative candidate sabrina 1 May 2015 #69

They're already right there.. eloydude May 2015 #102

Kick hifiguy May 2015 #8

I like mstinamotorcity2 May 2015 #9

I am not sure it will be a scrap. Hillary has been moving left in her speeches as fast as she can. jwirr May 2015 #71

He doesn't need to fight dirty, he just needs to tell the truth. sabrina 1 May 2015 #87

When the party has moved so far right, and so far up Wall Street Puzzledtraveller May 2015 #10

So right! Contemporary Democrats are comfortable with Reaganesque policies. immoderate May 2015 #12

K&R Go Vols May 2015 #11

He's not a fringe politician. Agschmid May 2015 #13

You could even add Eisenhower to the list TexasBushwhacker May 2015 #14

Ike expanded Social Security. hifiguy May 2015 #30

+1! Enthusiast May 2015 #57

I Just Do Not Understand Why The Media Is Ignoring Him. (NT) JoeLaValle May 2015 #16

Not publishing what a prominent politician says is one of the frequently used ways of trying to Cal33 May 2015 #18

The Media Pharaoh May 2015 #22

My Only Explanation Is That Bernie Is Really Considered A Threat.... global1 May 2015 #31

+1 You nailed it. Enthusiast May 2015 #58

Great Question !!! - K & R !!! WillyT May 2015 #17

Because all those guys are extreme radicals. Kablooie May 2015 #19

I guess all traditional Democrats have become 'fringe' in favor of the Third Way... PatrickforO May 2015 #20

How much wood can could a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood? Marrah_G May 2015 #21

Every word I've heard has been directed against a Democrat ucrdem May 2015 #23

Links please BrotherIvan May 2015 #29

Links: ucrdem May 2015 #36

You find questioning authority to be repulsive? Odd. I find it refreshing. Hiraeth May 2015 #38

Questioning is fine, dog whistling is not. ucrdem May 2015 #39

I think it's pretty evident that you haven't the first idea what "dog whistling" means Scootaloo May 2015 #51

... Enthusiast May 2015 #59

He's actually engaging in some post-modern irony, since Hillary in 2008 KingCharlemagne May 2015 #64

Fine but the OP is about Sanders. nt ucrdem May 2015 #92

But your post suggested Sanders was dog-whistling. To which one might retort, KingCharlemagne May 2015 #104

Considering Obama is a self-described moderate Republican in terms of policy cui bono May 2015 #78

Sanders' TPP stand is reactionary but what I'm objecting to is his dog whistling. nt ucrdem May 2015 #93

What dog whistling? What do you mean by reactionary? n/t cui bono May 2015 #94

Reactionary means resisting reform. In Sanders' case he's also being dishonest. ucrdem May 2015 #110

Reactionary is the second term you've failed to understand in this thread. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #115

That's not exactly what reactionary means. But I'm asking why you think Sanders is reactionary. cui bono May 2015 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author Hiraeth May 2015 #37

That's not true. Most of what he says is directed at issues. I know for some people issues are rhett o rick May 2015 #81

I like Al Sharpton well enough, but... RufusTFirefly May 2015 #24

Did any of them ever claim to be ... PosterChild May 2015 #25

I'm not following you. Maedhros May 2015 #47

The point is that... PosterChild May 2015 #63

People who make labels the most important part of their political decision-making Maedhros May 2015 #80

Not true. Labels have impotance, meaning and signifcance above and beyond.... PosterChild May 2015 #88

And so rather than allow the right wing to define what labels are or are not, we need to be proud cui bono May 2015 #96

Sure... PosterChild May 2015 #98

There is no consistency in the Democratic Party, for example. Maedhros May 2015 #107

Most of our social programs are democratically socialist. Why not call them what they are? cui bono May 2015 #95

Because our social programs are not.... PosterChild May 2015 #105

Spot on MaggieD May 2015 #109

and that right there is the problem with our party Mnpaul May 2015 #26

K & R! mother earth May 2015 #27

That was then, this is now. GliderGuider May 2015 #32

Fox News dictates rightness and leftness. If they say he's fringe, he's fringe. Truthiness, not valerief May 2015 #33

Exactly! Thanks for this! whereisjustice May 2015 #34

K&R..... daleanime May 2015 #35

Because the Democratic Party is no longer what it used to be. That's why. liberal_at_heart May 2015 #40

Because he attracts "the loony left". Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #41

Who says he is on the fringe, except for right-wing media and some Internet posters? nt ohnoyoudidnt May 2015 #42

The M$M and even some on DU. hifiguy May 2015 #45

Explain to me again why he is on the "fringe" of the Democratic Party Stryder May 2015 #43

They may call him a "socialist"... kentuck May 2015 #44

Where conservative repukes were hifiguy May 2015 #46

THEY may call him a socialist ???? PosterChild May 2015 #68

Bernie is considered to be on the fringe of the Democratic Party due to so many truedelphi May 2015 #48

Exactly correct. Enthusiast May 2015 #60

Bernie is not on the fringe Iwillnevergiveup May 2015 #49

Personally, I don't think he's on the fringe MaggieD May 2015 #50

The Democratic Party has been moving right for decades. Vinca May 2015 #52

Fuck that noise, he is not on the fringes of anything madokie May 2015 #53

The idea that Bernie is on the "fringe" of the Democratic Party is utter bullshit. Enthusiast May 2015 #55

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast May 2015 #56

The question answers itself. malthaussen May 2015 #61

Very good point CanonRay May 2015 #62

Yes yellowwoodII May 2015 #65

He's not on the fringe. He's not in the Democratic Party. treestar May 2015 #67

The original ideas never get implemented Rosa Luxemburg May 2015 #106

Yes, indeed. jwirr May 2015 #70

On my political radar he is a centrist. raouldukelives May 2015 #72

Because rightwingers now call themselves "centrists" villager May 2015 #76

Simple. He CHOSE to describe himself in a way that put him on the fringe. pnwmom May 2015 #79

Exactly! +10! /nt/ PosterChild May 2015 #89

he is the one declaring himself the fringe, call him democratic socialist. i personally, would have seabeyond May 2015 #82

He's called himself a Democratic Socialist for many years... elzenmahn May 2015 #85

yes. he has a message that people will like. yes, he has called himself democratic socialist. seabeyond May 2015 #86

Yes, he's been placing himself on the fringe with that label for many years. pnwmom May 2015 #108

But why do you think he didn't call himself a Democrat for many years? elzenmahn May 2015 #113

The citizens of the USA will be voting for President. It would be a lot easier for him pnwmom May 2015 #114

"fringe" = desperate word salad from the ...desperate. L0oniX May 2015 #83

Because the power structure of the "democratic" party has moved to the right jimlup May 2015 #90

DNC chair: �Democrats welcome Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders ..." ucrdem May 2015 #91

Or any domestic policy speech by the current President, for that matter. True Blue Door May 2015 #97

He's no more radical than they, for sure. DirkGently May 2015 #101

Rightward Shift HassleCat May 2015 #103

K&R woo me with science May 2015 #117