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seabeyond

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82. he is the one declaring himself the fringe, call him democratic socialist. i personally, would have

Sat May 9, 2015, 02:09 PM

May 2015

like to see him step up, declaring himself the old democrat of the 80's no more.

i think it is a miss step.

i think he should be working to be inclusive, not exclusive or fringe.

i hope he re thinks this. it concerns me, he might be taking himself out of the race, when it is not necessary.

i think he could mainstream, totally debunking the socialist issue.

just... my opinion. one among the many

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Every word I have heard from Bernie Sanders [View all] hifiguy May 2015 OP

Indeed! Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2015 #1

The Teabag Party is a very recent political party lunatica May 2015 #2

What does that have to do with the Democratic party? hootinholler May 2015 #66

I'm responding to the OP's question lunatica May 2015 #74

Bernie is an independent uwep May 2015 #84

With Democrats pushing a payroll tax cut for a third year in a row JonLP24 May 2015 #99

I think you responded to the wrong OP. cui bono May 2015 #73

No I didn't lunatica May 2015 #75

Ah, okay, that makes sense now. Thanks. cui bono May 2015 #77

Because he can't be bribed or bought imnew May 2015 #3

Whoever manages his twitter feed quoted FDR a day or so ago. Triana May 2015 #4

What do you mean He may not win madokie May 2015 #54

I see him more as a Truman JonLP24 May 2015 #100

I also see him as a Truman type: hifiguy May 2015 #111

"Harry Truman is unflinching. He has no intention of backing down." Triana May 2015 #112

why is he on the "fringe?" 99% of Americans are the fringe carolinayellowdog May 2015 #5

All the Sensible Centrist Woodchucks hifiguy May 2015 #6

They need for us to think he's Mao. 'Cause if people realize he's not, winter is coming May 2015 #7

There it is BrotherIvan May 2015 #28

No shenmue May 2015 #15

But they are very much in the minority. Bernie is by far the most representative candidate sabrina 1 May 2015 #69

They're already right there.. eloydude May 2015 #102

Kick hifiguy May 2015 #8

I like mstinamotorcity2 May 2015 #9

I am not sure it will be a scrap. Hillary has been moving left in her speeches as fast as she can. jwirr May 2015 #71

He doesn't need to fight dirty, he just needs to tell the truth. sabrina 1 May 2015 #87

When the party has moved so far right, and so far up Wall Street Puzzledtraveller May 2015 #10

So right! Contemporary Democrats are comfortable with Reaganesque policies. immoderate May 2015 #12

K&R Go Vols May 2015 #11

He's not a fringe politician. Agschmid May 2015 #13

You could even add Eisenhower to the list TexasBushwhacker May 2015 #14

Ike expanded Social Security. hifiguy May 2015 #30

+1! Enthusiast May 2015 #57

I Just Do Not Understand Why The Media Is Ignoring Him. (NT) JoeLaValle May 2015 #16

Not publishing what a prominent politician says is one of the frequently used ways of trying to Cal33 May 2015 #18

The Media Pharaoh May 2015 #22

My Only Explanation Is That Bernie Is Really Considered A Threat.... global1 May 2015 #31

+1 You nailed it. Enthusiast May 2015 #58

Great Question !!! - K & R !!! WillyT May 2015 #17

Because all those guys are extreme radicals. Kablooie May 2015 #19

I guess all traditional Democrats have become 'fringe' in favor of the Third Way... PatrickforO May 2015 #20

How much wood can could a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood? Marrah_G May 2015 #21

Every word I've heard has been directed against a Democrat ucrdem May 2015 #23

Links please BrotherIvan May 2015 #29

Links: ucrdem May 2015 #36

You find questioning authority to be repulsive? Odd. I find it refreshing. Hiraeth May 2015 #38

Questioning is fine, dog whistling is not. ucrdem May 2015 #39

I think it's pretty evident that you haven't the first idea what "dog whistling" means Scootaloo May 2015 #51

... Enthusiast May 2015 #59

He's actually engaging in some post-modern irony, since Hillary in 2008 KingCharlemagne May 2015 #64

Fine but the OP is about Sanders. nt ucrdem May 2015 #92

But your post suggested Sanders was dog-whistling. To which one might retort, KingCharlemagne May 2015 #104

Considering Obama is a self-described moderate Republican in terms of policy cui bono May 2015 #78

Sanders' TPP stand is reactionary but what I'm objecting to is his dog whistling. nt ucrdem May 2015 #93

What dog whistling? What do you mean by reactionary? n/t cui bono May 2015 #94

Reactionary means resisting reform. In Sanders' case he's also being dishonest. ucrdem May 2015 #110

Reactionary is the second term you've failed to understand in this thread. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #115

That's not exactly what reactionary means. But I'm asking why you think Sanders is reactionary. cui bono May 2015 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author Hiraeth May 2015 #37

That's not true. Most of what he says is directed at issues. I know for some people issues are rhett o rick May 2015 #81

I like Al Sharpton well enough, but... RufusTFirefly May 2015 #24

Did any of them ever claim to be ... PosterChild May 2015 #25

I'm not following you. Maedhros May 2015 #47

The point is that... PosterChild May 2015 #63

People who make labels the most important part of their political decision-making Maedhros May 2015 #80

Not true. Labels have impotance, meaning and signifcance above and beyond.... PosterChild May 2015 #88

And so rather than allow the right wing to define what labels are or are not, we need to be proud cui bono May 2015 #96

Sure... PosterChild May 2015 #98

There is no consistency in the Democratic Party, for example. Maedhros May 2015 #107

Most of our social programs are democratically socialist. Why not call them what they are? cui bono May 2015 #95

Because our social programs are not.... PosterChild May 2015 #105

Spot on MaggieD May 2015 #109

and that right there is the problem with our party Mnpaul May 2015 #26

K & R! mother earth May 2015 #27

That was then, this is now. GliderGuider May 2015 #32

Fox News dictates rightness and leftness. If they say he's fringe, he's fringe. Truthiness, not valerief May 2015 #33

Exactly! Thanks for this! whereisjustice May 2015 #34

K&R..... daleanime May 2015 #35

Because the Democratic Party is no longer what it used to be. That's why. liberal_at_heart May 2015 #40

Because he attracts "the loony left". Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #41

Who says he is on the fringe, except for right-wing media and some Internet posters? nt ohnoyoudidnt May 2015 #42

The M$M and even some on DU. hifiguy May 2015 #45

Explain to me again why he is on the "fringe" of the Democratic Party Stryder May 2015 #43

They may call him a "socialist"... kentuck May 2015 #44

Where conservative repukes were hifiguy May 2015 #46

THEY may call him a socialist ???? PosterChild May 2015 #68

Bernie is considered to be on the fringe of the Democratic Party due to so many truedelphi May 2015 #48

Exactly correct. Enthusiast May 2015 #60

Bernie is not on the fringe Iwillnevergiveup May 2015 #49

Personally, I don't think he's on the fringe MaggieD May 2015 #50

The Democratic Party has been moving right for decades. Vinca May 2015 #52

Fuck that noise, he is not on the fringes of anything madokie May 2015 #53

The idea that Bernie is on the "fringe" of the Democratic Party is utter bullshit. Enthusiast May 2015 #55

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast May 2015 #56

The question answers itself. malthaussen May 2015 #61

Very good point CanonRay May 2015 #62

Yes yellowwoodII May 2015 #65

He's not on the fringe. He's not in the Democratic Party. treestar May 2015 #67

The original ideas never get implemented Rosa Luxemburg May 2015 #106

Yes, indeed. jwirr May 2015 #70

On my political radar he is a centrist. raouldukelives May 2015 #72

Because rightwingers now call themselves "centrists" villager May 2015 #76

Simple. He CHOSE to describe himself in a way that put him on the fringe. pnwmom May 2015 #79

Exactly! +10! /nt/ PosterChild May 2015 #89

he is the one declaring himself the fringe, call him democratic socialist. i personally, would have seabeyond May 2015 #82

He's called himself a Democratic Socialist for many years... elzenmahn May 2015 #85

yes. he has a message that people will like. yes, he has called himself democratic socialist. seabeyond May 2015 #86

Yes, he's been placing himself on the fringe with that label for many years. pnwmom May 2015 #108

But why do you think he didn't call himself a Democrat for many years? elzenmahn May 2015 #113

The citizens of the USA will be voting for President. It would be a lot easier for him pnwmom May 2015 #114

"fringe" = desperate word salad from the ...desperate. L0oniX May 2015 #83

Because the power structure of the "democratic" party has moved to the right jimlup May 2015 #90

DNC chair: �Democrats welcome Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders ..." ucrdem May 2015 #91

Or any domestic policy speech by the current President, for that matter. True Blue Door May 2015 #97

He's no more radical than they, for sure. DirkGently May 2015 #101

Rightward Shift HassleCat May 2015 #103

K&R woo me with science May 2015 #117