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bvar22

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70. One man's "extending and reinforcing"...

Sat May 9, 2015, 02:29 PM

May 2015

is another man's "pushing".

In fact, "extending & reinforcing" would be interpreted by most people as "pushing".

It is fairly easy to spot the issues that Obama is willing to Fight For.

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Ah... The Sweetness Of Being Correct... [View all] WillyT May 2015 OP

But, but (insert something about cardboard boxes and stripper poles here) and wharrgarbl!!1! Electric Monk May 2015 #1

But we knew about it already! BrotherIvan May 2015 #2

I Dunno... Apparently We Had Some Legal Eagles Telling Us Otherwise... WillyT May 2015 #27

All these accusations are nonsense. Until the truth is revealed. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #43

You mean sensible woodchucks, right? n/t eridani May 2015 #62

Feel better when the programs are eliminated..... daleanime May 2015 #3

Not gonna happen mindwalker_i May 2015 #16

great week for freedom. nashville_brook May 2015 #4

NSA spying is illegal? Then let's make it law, say Republicans n2doc May 2015 #5

Obama already pushed to "legalize" BushCo's illegal activity. cui bono May 2015 #65

Spy chief had 'forgotten' about NSA program when he misled Congress n2doc May 2015 #6

Yeah, "he forgot", and I own a bridge in Brooklyn. n/t Exilednight May 2015 #11

I thought that he already had made a different excuse that implied the lie was a choice.... xocet May 2015 #17

Leave Clapper alone, he's just a patriot who is under pressure to do the job Bush sabrina 1 May 2015 #40

Yes, he's just up there standing a post on the wall of freedom... xocet May 2015 #61

Clapper should be in jail. BeanMusical May 2015 #22

+1 MrMickeysMom May 2015 #59

mistakes happen. but people who aren't lying correct the record. unblock May 2015 #26

A great day for freedom seveneyes May 2015 #7

+1! Oh, baby! Enthusiast May 2015 #33

And my own "sweetness of being correct" - remember that utter bullshit about how the NSA was NOT djean111 May 2015 #8

I Remember... WillyT May 2015 #15

Lies give cover n2doc May 2015 #31

"Lies provide uncertainty." True. And that fosters disunity, and the inability to coalesce GoneFishin May 2015 #102

SOMEBODY was wrong. pa28 May 2015 #9

ROFLMAO !!! WillyT May 2015 #12

Yeah that's right. It's a callout. pa28 May 2015 #25

I just scared the dog LOL! Octafish May 2015 #35

Woodchuck cider for everyone! n/t hootinholler May 2015 #37

epic. KG May 2015 #42

DURec bvar22 May 2015 #69

I don't think this decision will change anything HeiressofBickworth May 2015 #10

Count on it. silverweb May 2015 #13

It Changes ONE Thing... We Now Have The Courts On Our Side... WillyT May 2015 #14

not for long, if the democrats do not win in 2016. rw will stack more. they already have states seabeyond May 2015 #54

we let this ship sail, when we saw bush implement, flagrantly breaking law. and america said nothin seabeyond May 2015 #53

Wrong. OnyxCollie May 2015 #105

More vindication for Snowden ... (sorry, haters) nikto May 2015 #18

Good. 840high May 2015 #19

Agreed, but.... MaggieD May 2015 #20

Where are the Snowden haters? LOL. This is perfect! nt Logical May 2015 #21

Big Kick & R! BeanMusical May 2015 #23

It comes as an inconvenient truth challenging our resident security concern agents. No reasonable whereisjustice May 2015 #24

Or... The Silence Of The Clams... Er, Claims... WillyT May 2015 #28

really looking all over the fuckin' place to see were the crow is. nt seabeyond May 2015 #51

K&R liberal_at_heart May 2015 #29

duh. but i knew this back when it started UNDER BUSH. pansypoo53219 May 2015 #30

yes. see, i am working my way up the thread, to see what the party is about, lol seabeyond May 2015 #49

Could you prove it? OnyxCollie May 2015 #106

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast May 2015 #32

Well, the Two Vs are Validation and Vindication... malthaussen May 2015 #34

interesting. and the stroking of ego? what is the necessity in that? nt seabeyond May 2015 #48

Helps bolster self-confidence, I reckon. malthaussen May 2015 #52

lmFao. i love you. you are fun..... nt seabeyond May 2015 #57

If it is illegal, does that mean they can't do it and what will they do with all the midnight May 2015 #36

Did you read nothing in the other threads about this? randome May 2015 #38

thanks. i walked into a victory party, .... looking around in a wtf. looking for, oh, the facts seabeyond May 2015 #47

Yay! Super NSA Defender Man to the rescue LondonReign2 May 2015 #100

Couldn't care less about the NSA or the metadata collection. randome May 2015 #101

You've spent 8,000 posts defending the NSA LondonReign2 May 2015 #109

Shows some DUers are pretty brave. Octafish May 2015 #39

That judge is obviously an emoprog snowglennian poopiehead! n/t QC May 2015 #41

Wait - I thought the courts were ineffective in this country treestar May 2015 #44

they way someone can twist something so very simple, to achieve a mythical victory is astounding. nt seabeyond May 2015 #46

wtf? are a certain some of you patting yourself on the back in cheer and glory and victory, about? seabeyond May 2015 #45

It's more important to be right than it is to be accurate, don't you know? randome May 2015 #50

i couldnt do the drama sniping of the snowden issue. but seems to be with that. i have fox news rw seabeyond May 2015 #56

Yes, and it was illegal in 2003/2004, then Obama pushed to make BushCo's programs 'legal' cui bono May 2015 #66

obama did not push it. buscho and the congress did before he left office. obama may have extended seabeyond May 2015 #67

One man's "extending and reinforcing"... bvar22 May 2015 #70

the LAW was passed by bushco. which is what i addressed. nt seabeyond May 2015 #71

He pushed to extend it and he expanded it. See my other post. n/t cui bono May 2015 #82

as i too acknowledged. that is not what i addressed with your post that was incorrect. seabeyond May 2015 #85

I quoted your EXACT words. bvar22 May 2015 #84

WHO made the law legal? that is what i adddressed. bush made it legal. i do not change seabeyond May 2015 #86

If I misrememberd that, then thanks for the correction. Obama voted to make it legal. cui bono May 2015 #92

Then you will have to link to the post where I said that Obama started the Surveillance State. bvar22 May 2015 #96

By what mechanism AgingAmerican May 2015 #73

obama did not push to make legal. it was pushed to be made legal in bushco time. seabeyond May 2015 #75

Did he not 'push' to keep it legal? AgingAmerican May 2015 #76

which is what i stated. but see, i read a person words. they say that obama made it legal. WRONG. seabeyond May 2015 #77

Word gymnastics AgingAmerican May 2015 #79

for you and others, hell ya, you are pretzeling. bush made it legal, not obama. nt seabeyond May 2015 #87

Obama did too. He voted for it. cui bono May 2015 #94

i htought you were saying obama did it in his presidency which is what fox says. bush's law, seabeyond May 2015 #95

illegal in 2003/2004, then Obama pushed to make BushCo's programs 'legal' seabeyond May 2015 #78

If I misrememberd that, then thanks for the correction. Obama voted to make it legal. cui bono May 2015 #89

Obama absolutely pushed to legalize the illegal BushCo activities. cui bono May 2015 #80

BUSH made it legal. obama extended it. how can you in good conscious ignore who made this legal? seabeyond May 2015 #88

I'm looking for the links I'm remembering reading... cui bono May 2015 #91

Wait....What? bvar22 May 2015 #81

yes. as do many rw'ers. when bush did it they ignored. when obama extended the law in place, seabeyond May 2015 #90

Liberals support Snowden. cui bono May 2015 #93

As soon as President Obama made the decision to "extend & reinforce" these programs, bvar22 May 2015 #97

. Katashi_itto May 2015 #55

wtf? you guys are hitting bottom dude. cant EVER reply to what i post. used all your powder? seabeyond May 2015 #58

"Cache?" Wtf are you talking about? Katashi_itto May 2015 #63

Obama looks bad. OnyxCollie May 2015 #107

True Katashi_itto May 2015 #108

Especially the posts about "where are the authoritarians now?" treestar May 2015 #64

K&R nt raouldukelives May 2015 #60

yeah, So Snowden broke the law. bahrbearian May 2015 #68

In light of this, Snowden should be pardoned, not prosecuted. AtomicKitten May 2015 #72

+1,000 n/t malaise May 2015 #103

This is a good day for our Democracy! bvar22 May 2015 #74

Careful! You will piss off the King of DU with that kinda stuff! Rex May 2015 #83

This will only piss off people who love Spy vs Spy err uhm Spy vs Citizens. L0oniX May 2015 #98

We already knew we were right. True Blue Door May 2015 #99

Don't Worry - The Snowden Denigration League Will Materialize Shortly cantbeserious May 2015 #104