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6. Fantastic vintage Charlie.

Sat May 9, 2015, 03:34 PM

May 2015

The only thing he got wrong is that Nike did NOT say they'd create 10,000 jobs- Nike said UP TO 10,000 over a 10 year period.

The President is completely contemptuous of those who disagree with him on the tpp. He is anything but truthful about them. It's disgraceful.

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Wrong Place, Wrong Time: Some Very Bad Politics From The White House [View all] n2doc May 2015 OP

Wait, he went to Nike and really said that? Scootaloo May 2015 #1

On NPR this morning they said he "blasted liberals for being wrong on TPP". nt daredtowork May 2015 #56

There are supposedly clauses in the treaty that would require more progressive working winter is coming May 2015 #57

That's because the majority of Americans don't Exilednight May 2015 #73

How changing a couple items.. tecelote May 2015 #81

Great article, and I agree completely with what's said here. CaliforniaPeggy May 2015 #2

Madame secretary helped write the TPP, fer chrissakes. malthaussen May 2015 #4

You are spot on, my dear malthaussen! Thank you. CaliforniaPeggy May 2015 #7

Love that reference to Hotel George V - I doubt you'll find Bernie there. erronis May 2015 #17

Well, he could hobnob with the bellhops and the concierge... malthaussen May 2015 #19

Do you know this for an absolute fact? lark May 2015 #33

There have been many posts in DU about it. malthaussen May 2015 #36

A one liner with no followup or explanation isn't credible proof lark May 2015 #37

The fact that she isn't loudly and adamantly against it is very disappointing. Scuba May 2015 #46

I totally agree lark May 2015 #134

Your logic works both ways of course. We have seen zero, nil, nada, that she doesn't favor it. rhett o rick May 2015 #122

"as Secretary of State" MaggieD May 2015 #54

Who is "our"? Yours? Mine? Nike? How much do you want to bet Exilednight May 2015 #75

Whatchu mean "our" interests, Kemosabe? eridani May 2015 #80

Oh my bad MaggieD May 2015 #84

Bs.. Anyone who tells you trade is free is selling something! green917 May 2015 #110

It doesn't matter fuckall what China does, as it will not be a signatory eridani May 2015 #133

She didn't MaggieD May 2015 #53

plus it was a draft... and it was five years ago OKNancy May 2015 #85

What did she write in it? MaggieD May 2015 #51

My guess is the labor and environmental regulations in the TPP. jeff47 May 2015 #22

Well, the leaked drafts contradict your guess. Scuba May 2015 #47

The leaked drafts aren't complete, and do not include the chapters I was talking about. (nt) jeff47 May 2015 #49

So your speculation is based on your "feelings" alone, delrem May 2015 #72

There's no facts to base it on. jeff47 May 2015 #106

I think there is a logic problem presented here. Some will argue that if you can't provide 100% rhett o rick May 2015 #123

You seem to have mistaken me with someone who likes the TPP. jeff47 May 2015 #127

I must have misunderstood your post #22. Was it sarcasm? nm rhett o rick May 2015 #128

Nope, just a guess based on armchair psychology. jeff47 May 2015 #129

I think I hear you saying is that Pres Clinton meant well but made a mistake in signing NAFTA. rhett o rick May 2015 #130

Which workers is key. jeff47 May 2015 #131

Some "liberals" may think that the rest of the world's workers should be rhett o rick May 2015 #132

sorry, there is NO evidence to support that guess. In fact, late round drafts cali May 2015 #82

That's why it's a "guess". jeff47 May 2015 #105

"Guess" again. /nt Marr May 2015 #117

That guess doen't make the slightest sense. If labor and environmental conditions improve rhett o rick May 2015 #124

Theoretically, being part of such a trade agreement gives them reasons to stay. jeff47 May 2015 #126

My feeling is that he has been in the bubble for too long n2doc May 2015 #27

I suspect you're right. He really believes this BS. n/t CaliforniaPeggy May 2015 #28

No f*ing way lark May 2015 #34

Of course he knows. He's not stupid. 840high May 2015 #62

Yup. Not even Sarah Palin is so ignorant as to not know who her politics benefits. delrem May 2015 #74

Bingo. F4lconF16 May 2015 #86

Possibly, but support for the TPP is in line with his self-admitted Republicanism. malthaussen May 2015 #42

World leader vs. national leader; conflicting feelings carolinayellowdog May 2015 #61

I agree. LuvNewcastle May 2015 #64

World Leader, but where is he leading us? n2doc May 2015 #121

He never would've been invited into the bubble if he wasn't already amenable to this sort of thing. Marr May 2015 #118

Now we know for sure. Enthusiast May 2015 #79

Why has he sold us out or trying to???? Hotler May 2015 #96

I wonder how much champagne was snorted through noses after that. malthaussen May 2015 #3

it's not grasswire May 2015 #35

K&R. Excellent article. (nm) Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #5

Fantastic vintage Charlie. cali May 2015 #6

Retail jobs 1939 May 2015 #26

Exactly. At $8.50/hr with no benefits. Like Macy's. WorseBeforeBetter May 2015 #67

Yah, well those workers will be replaced by machines in no time. delrem May 2015 #76

I don't trust the President. Enthusiast May 2015 #8

And I doubt that the man, and those who are behind him, truedelphi May 2015 #10

Had to vote for him twice Thespian2 May 2015 #21

You didn't, though. F4lconF16 May 2015 #88

I know. Thespian2 May 2015 #111

I think many of us will. F4lconF16 May 2015 #115

No Thespian2 May 2015 #116

In retail, this is what's known as......... wolfie001 May 2015 #9

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ n/t truedelphi May 2015 #13

They'll blame it on lack of education... like our inability to learn how to work for $2/day or less. whereisjustice May 2015 #29

TPP contains implicit job retraining mechanisms, to help workers without that job skill to GoneFishin May 2015 #43

I saw the micro version of what's been going on years ago at the Budweiser distributor I worked for. brewens May 2015 #11

I think that is a real snapshot of what is happening everywhere arikara May 2015 #30

Thank you for that capsule of history -- I recently retired and saw, over a period of Nay May 2015 #100

But if Vietnam raises the minimum wage for its workers, Maedhros May 2015 #12

No, that's B.S. I'd spend some time explaining it to you, but I don't think it would make a okaawhatever May 2015 #15

Do it anyway. sulphurdunn May 2015 #52

Take a stab at it. WorseBeforeBetter May 2015 #70

Better yet, let's get Maedhros to prove their claim. They can't & that way I won't have to waste okaawhatever May 2015 #120

But if you support Obama and the TPP... WorseBeforeBetter May 2015 #125

Explain it. /nt Marr May 2015 #119

No, that's backwards. AFL-CIO can sue if they lower it again (nt). Recursion May 2015 #77

When it comes to the TPP, the truth is that hifiguy May 2015 #14

I heard the beggining of the speech on the radio rufus dog May 2015 #16

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT May 2015 #18

The CEO of Nike makes 15 million plus raindaddy May 2015 #20

Funny thing, that. It's not becoming corrupt, it always has been. F4lconF16 May 2015 #89

Really Good Points! raindaddy May 2015 #98

True enough. F4lconF16 May 2015 #102

The worst lie he is spreading is sadoldgirl May 2015 #23

Geopolitics jakeXT May 2015 #41

Typical calm and some mild scolding recently. So far the released info. and concerns by appalachiablue May 2015 #69

The only legacy he cares... sendero May 2015 #99

The Bill Clinton Platinum Retirement Plan. moondust May 2015 #109

Even IF he is correct that... bvar22 May 2015 #24

Great points bvar 22 raindaddy May 2015 #25

And tariffs and "protectionism" ibegurpard May 2015 #87

Yes, yes, yes. Excellent post. F4lconF16 May 2015 #90

K & R AzDar May 2015 #31

K/R Jack Rabbit May 2015 #32

I don't. SamKnause May 2015 #39

But I still hate to see a grown man make such a fool of himself Jack Rabbit May 2015 #40

So don't take it anymore! F4lconF16 May 2015 #95

On the other hand... yallerdawg May 2015 #38

so that's why are trade deficits with ftas partners cali May 2015 #45

Globalization has been a reality for decades, like it or not YoungDemCA May 2015 #44

It isn't "reality" any more than debtor prison and NSA surveillence is a "reality". You confuse whereisjustice May 2015 #48

Exactly! ctsnowman May 2015 #91

globalization is a political construct ibegurpard May 2015 #93

I disagree with one part of this. F4lconF16 May 2015 #97

You are right, I tend to think of the hockey stick like trajectory of corporate influence whereisjustice May 2015 #107

"Hockey-stick like trajectory". I like that. nt F4lconF16 May 2015 #108

Exactly whatchamacallit May 2015 #103

his bad politics started the day after his first inauguration Doctor_J May 2015 #50

He lost me at "Rahm" nt PassingFair May 2015 #55

Yup FlatBaroque May 2015 #92

Don't beat yourself up. We didn't really have a choice. PassingFair May 2015 #104

But,....but,....but,...Phil says Americans don't WANT to make shoes! Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #58

Reality Check JayNev May 2015 #59

I should add... JayNev May 2015 #60

Yep - 840high May 2015 #63

Why would he lie ? iamthebandfanman May 2015 #65

Is this just a matter of the president not being too perceptive? Jakes Progress May 2015 #66

Taken with words of the rich AND father issues. SMC22307 May 2015 #71

K&R blackspade May 2015 #68

Not in this country. Not any more. pbmus May 2015 #78

K&R nt myrna minx May 2015 #83

HUGE K&R Never forget that NEOLIBERALS are pushing this crap on American workers scam. 99Forever May 2015 #94

K&R CharlotteVale May 2015 #101

What Happened To This Obama - Promoted The Modification (Scrapping) Of NAFTA - So Confused cantbeserious May 2015 #112

I've got to agree with Charles Pierce on this one. PatrickforO May 2015 #113

He's just campaigning for a different job now-- regular corporate speaker. Marr May 2015 #114