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avebury

(11,197 posts)
18. It is the piles of garbage, broken glass and nails around the property
Sat May 9, 2015, 04:45 PM
May 2015

that concerns me the most. There is nothing wrong with raising children to enjoy the outside and getting dirty is a part of that experience. It is a whole other thing to allow garbage to pile up. I would curious if their accumulation of garbage has (or will) contaminate their water source. Also, the garbage will attract wildlife and while they may shoot it, the wildlife may get one of the smaller kids first.

If I were the neighbor I would be pissed off at the father stealing water from the neighbor's property. I hardly see the parents as setting all that good examples for their kids. They are teaching them to steal (the water), to threaten people with violence (dad threatening to shoot the neighbor), the accumulation of garbage, broken glass and nails does not speak well of respecting your environment, and so on.

Take the kids out of the woods and into an urban environment and it would be interesting to see how they fare. While they are allowed to pick and choose what they learn I don't see how they are exposed to the tools they would need to achieve an actual education beyond the outdoor world. How can the parents claim that their children are able to achieve a typical type of education if those tools are not readily available to their kids? If any of them chose to go to college (or trade school) how do the parents expect them to qualify for entrance to any type of higher education? The kids are going to be way far behind the peers of their own ages. I think that most parents would not want their kids anywhere near this family.

Chores don't seem to be a learning experience given how trashed their property is.

Now this type of family would be loved by the far right Conservatives. The parents are raising their kids to be educationally ignorant, they are no threat to the 1%ers nor will they be likely to ever vote. It is part of the dumbing down of society.

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I hate to see parents lose their kids. Yep even republicans yeoman6987 May 2015 #1
Those living conditions look, well, atrocious. MADem May 2015 #2
Totally agree with everything you typed. yeoman6987 May 2015 #5
Is that bunch of sticks with a tarp over them supposed to be where they live??? dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #16
Yes--it's a three walled lean-to. MADem May 2015 #54
10 kids? QUIT BREEDING Novara May 2015 #3
Hey she's free range! MoonRiver May 2015 #4
We can't tell her that. Jamastiene May 2015 #8
I said "...give her uterus a rest..." on another Ilsa May 2015 #42
Her body, Ms. Yertle May 2015 #46
I'm not going to support what they are doing. Ilsa May 2015 #60
When my son entered kindergarten-- Ms. Yertle May 2015 #61
This isn't merely about ABCs. There is also Ilsa May 2015 #63
Your inner fascist is showing Telcontar May 2015 #49
One can support choice Mariana May 2015 #96
I'm not finding any mention of this in the Lexington or Louisville papers. Hmm. winter is coming May 2015 #6
Television is covering it. MADem May 2015 #59
No Tree-Hugger May 2015 #99
This seems beyond the "free range" thing parents in the burbs are trying to do, but the kids here l Brickbat May 2015 #7
I'm not sure this is a real thing. I went looking for local newspaper articles, to see whether winter is coming May 2015 #9
real story. search under "nauglers" Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #14
Thanks. I tried "naugler" and didn't get anything. winter is coming May 2015 #41
It said there were two tents for the family and a structure that housed the animals. It said the okaawhatever May 2015 #75
They do! and all including the dogs seem to be well fed. Mojorabbit May 2015 #31
And the mother is pregnant - again avebury May 2015 #10
About that pond..... dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #17
It is the piles of garbage, broken glass and nails around the property avebury May 2015 #18
I picked up on the non fenced pond myself. truegrit44 May 2015 #24
We can't really look to England the ultimate nanny state for guidance on how to live...nt Jesus Malverde May 2015 #67
From these pictures, the kids look pretty happy and even healthy. logosoco May 2015 #11
Don't forget Dad stealing water from the avebury May 2015 #19
This is not home schooling because I really doubt they are being educated at all. alphafemale May 2015 #12
+1. Your comparison to animals is apt, I believe. Paladin May 2015 #13
This is not Free Range. alphafemale May 2015 #25
Couldn't agree with you more. Genuine child abuse. (nt) Paladin May 2015 #43
But this is why Sgent May 2015 #15
Most parents would not be qualified to teach past 6th grade or so. alphafemale May 2015 #27
It sounds to me that the kids aren't getting any formal schooling. LisaL May 2015 #20
Real life experience is living in mud and stealing water from the neighbor. alphafemale May 2015 #30
Look up John Holt Ms. Yertle May 2015 #21
You think they are baking cookies? alphafemale May 2015 #32
How does Ayn Rand enter into it spinbaby May 2015 #35
OMG! Ms. Yertle May 2015 #40
Yes. My mind did go to John Galt. alphafemale May 2015 #44
Haven't you ever heard of mud pies? Many of us living in the rural areas have. I have pictures of jwirr May 2015 #56
We had mud in the curbs treestar May 2015 #86
That is funny. Of course we are talking about a post where the kids were actually covering each jwirr May 2015 #92
Yeah with that in mind, it wasn't such a good idea treestar May 2015 #93
It even sounds like they do not even have a well with a pump. I agree that the shack they are jwirr May 2015 #94
*snort* Ms. Yertle May 2015 #37
Learning how to steal water from your neighbor alphafemale May 2015 #45
"Look, Ms. Yertle May 2015 #47
I already did in this thread. alphafemale May 2015 #50
Sorry, Ms. Yertle May 2015 #52
Holt's theory works IF you have someone who is actively working with the children to see what they jwirr May 2015 #53
Parental participation Ms. Yertle May 2015 #57
Raw audio of mother's interaction with police avebury May 2015 #22
'Interesting' comments, elleng May 2015 #29
Any supporters of this family are fringe types to say the least. nt avebury May 2015 #34
Yes Tree-Hugger May 2015 #100
It's somewhat interesting that social media Trillo May 2015 #23
If they have no septic system and running water, it is totally unacceptable. KittyWampus May 2015 #26
+1 leftofcool May 2015 #38
I am not supporting this family but think about what your statement would have meant to most of jwirr May 2015 #58
That was a CENTURY ago. There are foundations trying to bring water KittyWampus May 2015 #68
I may not have said in your post that I realized times had changed. I think this family should have jwirr May 2015 #70
Where I lived from birth to seven, Blue_In_AK May 2015 #79
When I was a kid, we had cars without seat belts. I didn't feel it was unsafe. KittyWampus May 2015 #80
Looks like Little House on the Prairie meets LiberalElite May 2015 #28
An audition for TLC new line up come fall? AuntPatsy May 2015 #33
Doomsday Preppers Meet Off The Griders. leftofcool May 2015 #39
Off-grid' couple faces hearing to regain custody of 10 children avebury May 2015 #36
"Unschooling"...uhh, no. That's just fucking stupid. True Blue Door May 2015 #48
It's the John Holt method Ms. Yertle May 2015 #62
There's no denying the value of free learning. But... True Blue Door May 2015 #65
You can learn a lot of physics Ms. Yertle May 2015 #69
No, you can't learn physics watching skateboarding. True Blue Door May 2015 #71
Children learn Ms. Yertle May 2015 #72
The whole of humankind tried an experiment in "natural learning." True Blue Door May 2015 #84
So, you want others to follow your prescriptions for academic learning... Psephos May 2015 #76
That's interesting treestar May 2015 #85
Socialization Ms. Yertle May 2015 #87
I want to scoop up and cuddle that baby! polly7 May 2015 #51
I bet those kids are learning all sorts of things. There are ways to do this that do not endanger uppityperson May 2015 #55
Do we live in a great age or what? WillowTree May 2015 #64
Mormon libertarians betsuni May 2015 #66
It probably isn't Ms. Yertle May 2015 #73
Yes, it is. Pictures on Facebook of them building it and calls it their cabin. betsuni May 2015 #77
I think they lost it Tree-Hugger May 2015 #101
I don't care much what happens to the parents vankuria May 2015 #74
The kids actually seem pretty healthy Scootaloo May 2015 #78
My favorite part is that the mother is a dog groomer. betsuni May 2015 #81
"The Duggars" meets "Lord of the Flies" bullwinkle428 May 2015 #82
* beam me up scottie May 2015 #83
Family did not always live off the grid. avebury May 2015 #88
From Nicole Naugler's Facebook Page avebury May 2015 #89
Idiots. Anyone who needs a 'system' to be a parent should never be one. randome May 2015 #90
must be a sea of mud when it rains. The children seem happy but the older boys look embarrassed Sunlei May 2015 #91
Wonder how they stay warm in the winter? odd_duck May 2015 #95
More basic than school... how about proper shelter... JCMach1 May 2015 #97
update: 38k raised for the couple Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #98
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