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Showing Original Post only (View all)Why Obama is happy to fight Elizabeth Warren on the trade deal (Yahoo! article) [View all]
This past week, as I had just reminded Obama, Warren launched her heaviest torpedo yet against the trade deal, alleging that some future president might use it as an excuse to undo the reregulation of Wall Street that Obama signed into law in 2010. In fact, as the White House quickly pointed out, language in the pact would expressly prevent that unless Congress voted to allow it.
Three days after that broadside, when we sat down at Nikes headquarters outside Portland, Ore., Obama still seemed unusually irritated.
Think about the logic of that, right? he went on. The notion that I had this massive fight with Wall Street to make sure that we dont repeat what happened in 2007, 2008. And then I sign a provision that would unravel it?
Id have to be pretty stupid, Obama said, laughing. This is pure speculation. She and I both taught law school, and you know, one of the things you do as a law professor is you spin out hypotheticals. And this is all hypothetical, speculative.
Obama wasnt through. He wanted me to know, in pointed terms, that for all the talk about her populist convictions, Warren had a personal brand she was trying to promote, too.
The truth of the matter is that Elizabeth is, you know, a politician like everybody else, he said. And you know, shes got a voice that she wants to get out there. And I understand that. And on most issues, she and I deeply agree. On this one, though, her arguments dont stand the test of fact and scrutiny.
Three days after that broadside, when we sat down at Nikes headquarters outside Portland, Ore., Obama still seemed unusually irritated.
Think about the logic of that, right? he went on. The notion that I had this massive fight with Wall Street to make sure that we dont repeat what happened in 2007, 2008. And then I sign a provision that would unravel it?
Id have to be pretty stupid, Obama said, laughing. This is pure speculation. She and I both taught law school, and you know, one of the things you do as a law professor is you spin out hypotheticals. And this is all hypothetical, speculative.
Obama wasnt through. He wanted me to know, in pointed terms, that for all the talk about her populist convictions, Warren had a personal brand she was trying to promote, too.
The truth of the matter is that Elizabeth is, you know, a politician like everybody else, he said. And you know, shes got a voice that she wants to get out there. And I understand that. And on most issues, she and I deeply agree. On this one, though, her arguments dont stand the test of fact and scrutiny.
Whats mostly going on here, though, is that frustrated liberals see in the Asian trade deal an opportunity to draw the line on globalization, period. No one thinks this deal is going to be the ruin of American workers, when all is said and done. What they think is that there has to be a moment when industry loses and the country finally turns its attention to the things you can do for workers, like raising the minimum wage (a more than reasonable suggestion) and relaxing rules that make organizing more difficult.
Taking a stand against the trade pact is really just a way of taking a stand against 30-plus years of policies that favored business over everyone else.
And this is what so frustrates Obama, to the point where he would come to make his stand at the headquarters of a company reviled by labor, almost as a provocation. Obama, as his detractors have often pointed out, is a study in cool-blooded analysis and professorial debate; whatever his gift of oratory, his real passion is for the triumph of reason over histrionics.
So you can see how it would annoy Obama no end that no matter how many mitigating facts and figures he throws at the opponents in his own party, their determination to sink the deal only intensifies. What they really want, it seems to him, isnt a better trade deal, but rather a time machine that can transport us all back to the moment before globalization began.
Taking a stand against the trade pact is really just a way of taking a stand against 30-plus years of policies that favored business over everyone else.
And this is what so frustrates Obama, to the point where he would come to make his stand at the headquarters of a company reviled by labor, almost as a provocation. Obama, as his detractors have often pointed out, is a study in cool-blooded analysis and professorial debate; whatever his gift of oratory, his real passion is for the triumph of reason over histrionics.
So you can see how it would annoy Obama no end that no matter how many mitigating facts and figures he throws at the opponents in his own party, their determination to sink the deal only intensifies. What they really want, it seems to him, isnt a better trade deal, but rather a time machine that can transport us all back to the moment before globalization began.
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/why-obama-is-happy-to-fight-elizabeth-warren-on-118537612596.html
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Why Obama is happy to fight Elizabeth Warren on the trade deal (Yahoo! article) [View all]
YoungDemCA
May 2015
OP
If Warren's concerns are "speculative", doesn't that word also apply to Obama's assurances? n/t
arcane1
May 2015
#1
If that's the case, how would relocating the focus of trade from China to SE Asian nations
True Blue Door
May 2015
#77
All the terms of the TPA & TPP will be shown before the vote. At least 60 days before the vote. Also
okaawhatever
May 2015
#16
And it seems he has accomplished much of the "adapt American liberalism to the
okaawhatever
May 2015
#17
Yes, the first black President-a Democrat-is "far more conservative" than Ronald fucking Reagan
YoungDemCA
May 2015
#69
Starting to get why so many Democrats have grabbed their keys and high tailed it out of here?
Number23
May 2015
#80
I know when she says you won't know what the TPP says for 4 years, she's either misinformed or
Hoyt
May 2015
#108
Well, Tbaggers seem to share your view. Using your logic, what should that tell you?
Hoyt
May 2015
#95
He has almost no credibility left, after 6 years of selling out liberals on every issue
Doctor_J
May 2015
#25
Obama should just shut up unless he doesn't care anymore for exposing who he really is
AZ Progressive
May 2015
#35
Well, on the other hand, if you know what "Neoliberal" means, it changes everything.
RiverLover
May 2015
#67
If they're making bank on playing reactionary isolationists, they're going to keep it up.
ucrdem
May 2015
#37
I object to President Obama saying that Senator Warren is "a Politician like everyone else"
diabeticman
May 2015
#55
BUT it inspired people to believe that the words "Of the People by the people". We need that hope
diabeticman
May 2015
#81
Write trade laws thar require a living wage and protect workers, places and the environment.
tk2kewl
May 2015
#89
Obama embarrased himself and did a disservice to the office of the Presidency
Larkspur
May 2015
#114