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145. Religious Liberals from New Jersey who support marriage equality:
Wed May 9, 2012, 02:52 PM
May 2012
120 Clergy from 19 Faiths in the State of New Jersey

Monday, January 4, 2010

Senate President Richard J. Codey
Assembly Speaker Joseph J. Roberts, Jr.
The State House
Trenton, New Jersey 08625

Dear Governor Codey and Speaker Roberts:

We are 120 clergy members across New Jersey from 19 faiths and denominations. We are but a sample of New Jersey clergy who support marriage equality and wish to marry same-sex couples legally.

We are Baptist, Buddhist, Episcopal, Ethical Culture Society, Interfaith, Jewish Conservative, Jewish Reconstructionist, Jewish Reform, Lutheran, Metropolitan Community Church, Methodist, Presbyterian, Reformed Church of America, Sankey Tribe, St. Francis of Assisi Catholic Church, Unitarian Universalist, United Church of Christ and Unity Fellowship Church. Among us are members of the Religious Society of Friends, the Quakers, who do not have clergy.

We 120 clergy members ask you to put the marriage equality bill to a vote in your respective houses - without precondition - before the end of the current legislative session.

In our nation founded on the separation of church and state, the State of New Jersey should not be in the business of telling faiths and clergy whom we can or cannot legally marry. We take issue with the State's current marriage law, which is not religiously neutral but reflects the beliefs of leaders of a particular faith community which opposes marriage equality.

We 120 clergy members support the freedom of religion embodied by the U.S. Constitution, the New Jersey Constitution and the marriage equality bill now before the New Jersey legislature, the Freedom of Religion and Equality in Civil Marriage Act. Language in the bill underscores the right of every religion and every clergy member to decide whom to marry and not to marry.

Furthermore, an amendment to the bill passed by the Senate Judiciary Committee last month would codify the nation's strongest protections for religious freedom in matters of marriage. The amendment ensures that no religious organization or religious facility in New Jersey can be sued because it has followed its conscience in which marriages it chooses to accommodate, or not accommodate.

There cannot be a better guarantor of religious freedom than the version of the Freedom of Religion and Equality in Civil Marriage Act now before you.

We are proud that our nation has never allowed any one religious doctrine to determine secular law. New Jersey law provides for divorce, for example, though some find divorce religiously impermissible. Indeed, the idea of New Jersey's banning civil divorce would be unthinkable. Our state would not stand for favoring the convictions of any one religion over another.

As 120 clergy across New Jersey from 19 faiths and denominations, we urgently ask you to put the marriage equality bill to a vote in your respective houses - without precondition - before the end of the current legislative session. The State must get out of our sanctuaries and uphold our religious freedom as clergy to marry whom we wish, or don't wish, under State law.

We appreciate your thoughtful consideration.
Sincerely,

Rabbi Joel Abraham, Jewish Reform
Rabbi Victor Appell, Jewish Reform
Rev. Meg Barnhouse, Unitarian Universalist
Bishop Mark Beckwith, Episcopal
Leader Rafaela Billini, Buddhist
Rev. Fred Blanken, Sankey Tribe
Rev. David C. Bocock, United Church of Christ
Rev. Dr. Thomas Bohache, Metropolitan Community Church
Rabbi Neal Borovitz, Jewish Reform
Rabbi Andrew Bossov, Jewish Reform
Rabbi Kenneth L. Brickman, Jewish Reform
Rev. Christopher Bruesehoff, Lutheran
Rev. Rene Colson Hudson, American Baptist
Dr. Joseph C. Chuman, Ethical Culture Society
Rev. Matthew Cimorelli, Lutheran
Rev. Diana Clark, Episcopal
Rev. Susan Nelson-Colaneri, Lutheran
Rabbi Faith Joy Dantowitz, Jewish Reform
Rev. Bruce Davidson, Lutheran
Michael Dawson, Religious Society of Friends (the Quakers)
Rev. Peter DeFranco, Lutheran
Rev. David DeSmith, Episcopal
Rabbi Stephanie Dickstein, Jewish Conservative
Rev. Robert Janis-Dillon, Unitarian Universalist
Rev. Thomas Dorsey, Lutheran
Rev. Wayne Dreyman, Lutheran
Rev. L.L. DuBreuil, United Church of Christ
Rev. Dr. Jeffrey C. Eaton, Lutheran
Rev. Rusty Eidmann-Hicks, United Church of Christ
Rabbi Paula Feldstein, Jewish Reform
Rev. Mary Forrell, Lutheran
Rev. Bryan Franzen, Presbyterian
Rabbi Elyse Frishman, Jewish Reform
Rev. Maristella Freiberg, Episcopal
Rev. Anahi Galante, Interfaith
Rev. Debra Given, Presbyterian
Rev. John Graf, Interfaith
Cantor Meredith Greenberg, Jewish Conservative
Rabbi Jarah Greenfield, Jewish Reconstructionist
Rabbi David Greenstein, Jewish Conservative
Rev. Carol Haag, Unitarian Universalist
Rabbi Debra R. Hachen, Jewish Reform
Rev. Dr. Betsey Hall, Presbyterian
Rabbi Richard Hammerman, Jewish Conservative
Rev. Rose Hardy, Liberation in Truth Unity Fellowship Church
Rev. Rose Hassan, Episcopal
Father Joseph A. Harmon, Episcopal
Rev. Margaret Hayes, Lutheran
Rev. Alicia Heath-Toby, Liberation in Truth Unity Fellowship Church
Rev. Margaret Herz-Lane, Lutheran
Bishop Jacquelyn Holland, Unity Fellowship Church
Rev. Janyce Jackson, Liberation in Truth Unity Fellowship Church
Rev. Seth Kaper-Dale, Reformed Church in America
Catherine Karsten, Religious Society of Friends (the Quakers)
Rev. Katherine G. Killebrew, Presbyterian
Rabbi Donna Kirschbaum, Jewish Reconstructionist
Rev. Robert Kriesat, Lutheran
Teacher Peter Kurczynski, Buddhist
Rabbi Alfred Landsberg, Jewish Reform
Rev. Gary C. LeCroy, Lutheran
Rabbi Darby Jared Leigh, Jewish Reconstructionist
Rev. Fred Lentz, Lutheran
Rabbi Ellen Lewis, Jewish Reform
Rabbi David C. Levy, Jewish Reform
Rabbi Adina Lewittes, Jewish Conservative
Cantor Erica J. Lippitz, Jewish Conservative
Rabbi Sharon Litwin, Jewish Reform
Bishop George Lucey, St. Francis of Assisi Catholic Church
Rev. Murdoch MacPherson, Lutheran
Rabbi Randall Mark, Jewish Conservative
Rev. Alison B. Miller, Unitarian Universalist
Rabbi Jordan Millstein, Jewish Reform
Rev. Manish Mishra, Unitarian Universalist
Rev. Rob Morris, Presbyterian
Rabbi Leana Moritt, Jewish Renewal
Rev. William C. Moser, Lutheran
Rabbi Robin Nafshi, Jewish Reform
Rev. Julie Newhall, Unitarian Universalist
Rev. Tiina Nummela, Lutheran
Rev. Clark Olson-Smith, Lutheran
Rev. Sara Olson-Smith, Lutheran
Rev. Charles Bluestein Ortman, Unitarian Universalist
Rev. Michelle Owings-Christian, Sankey Tribe
Rev. Fairbairn Powers, Episcopal
Rev. Dr. Susan Veronica Rak, Unitarian Universalist
Rev. Ann Ralosky, United Church of Christ
Rev. Donald R. Ransom, Unity Fellowship Church
Rabbi Esther Reed, Jewish Conservative
Rev. Christine Regan, Episcopal
Rev. Elsie Rhodes, Presbyterian
Rabbi Jonathan Roos, Jewish Reform
Rabbi Francine Roston, Jewish Conservative
Rev. Dr. Charles T. Rush, United Church of Christ
Rev. Leah Doberne-Schor, Jewish Reform
Rev. Marshall Shelly, Episcopal
Rabbi Rebecca Sirbu, Jewish Conservative
Rabbi Steven Sirbu, Jewish Reform
Rev. Carlton Elliott Smith, Unitarian Universalist
Rev. Vanessa Southern, Unitarian Universalist
Cantor Kerith Spencer-Shapiro, Jewish Reform
Rabbi Cy Stanway, Reform Judaism
Rev. Randy Steinman, Lutheran
Rev. Charles Stephens, Unitarian Universalist
Rev. Douglas Stivison, United Church of Christ
Rev. David L. Stoner, Lutheran
Thomas Swain, Religious Society of Friends (the Quakers)
Rebecca Sylvan, Religious Society of Friends (the Quakers)
Elder Rev. Kevin E. Taylor, Unity Fellowship Church
Rabbi Elliott Tepperman, Jewish Reconstructionist
Rev. Matt A. Thiringer, Lutheran
Rev. Charles N. Thompson, Presbyterian
Rev. Mary Tiebout, United Church of Christ
Rev. Ray VandeGiessen, Presbyterian
Rev. Gus Vinajeras, Lutheran
Rev. Paul Walker, Episcopal
Rev. Moacir Weirich, United Church of Christ
Rev. Dr. Traci C. West, United Methodist
Rev. David Wolf, Episcopal
Rev. Jeffrey B. Ziegler, Lutheran
Rabbi Ruth A. Zlotnick, Jewish Reform

You should post this on the WRAL site. I doubt many here are not supporting gay marriage. nt gateley May 2012 #1
I think you would be surprised. Kurska May 2012 #3
You're right -- I'd be very surprised, and undoubtedly very saddened. nt gateley May 2012 #5
yep. I'd be very surprised, dear. cali May 2012 #25
This comes up on DU every election cycle. After initial shock, I ceased being surprised in 2004. nt DRoseDARs May 2012 #39
oh, there were plenty on the other day... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #30
On the other hand, he may have garnered some pro-gay marriage voters who aren't gateley May 2012 #61
Then you would be wrong dbackjon May 2012 #101
Why not send a letter to a newspaper in North Carolina? HereSince1628 May 2012 #2
You're preaching to the choir here. AlbertCat May 2012 #106
Maybe, although I think not on DU. HereSince1628 May 2012 #109
If they had posted it in Religion forum... froster May 2012 #169
why post this here quinnox May 2012 #4
We should all be furious Kurska May 2012 #6
whatever, so you decided to post an angry rant against duers quinnox May 2012 #8
Any Duer that doesn't support gay marriage is my enemy. Kurska May 2012 #9
I love how you think your generation is full of enlightenment quinnox May 2012 #11
My generation is overwhelmingly infavor of it, but I have even more respect for older folks on the Kurska May 2012 #13
"My generation is overwhelmingly infavor of it" ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #23
Please reference this Kurska May 2012 #29
Young people in the sixties were overwhelmingly against war, then they grew up and voted GOP. Dawgs May 2012 #76
But the bigger picture is more important WinniSkipper May 2012 #131
Right... don't argue with Baby Boomers. froster May 2012 #172
Not arrogant at all WinniSkipper May 2012 #185
That's all well and good pintobean May 2012 #200
Statistically speaking, we're more in favor of it than other age groups Hippo_Tron May 2012 #191
As I said, the good news is the ones against it don't vote ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #192
While more younger people are for it..... musical_soul May 2012 #53
My parents were born in the late 1900s Rozlee May 2012 #78
I agree. We should be more angry. OriginalGeek May 2012 #14
Absolutely. Kurska May 2012 #16
+1. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #31
Hell yeah! Right there with ya, friend. nt froster May 2012 #173
it wasn't directed at DU'ers it was a righteous rant directed at bigots maddezmom May 2012 #89
Really? dbackjon May 2012 #102
I am extremely furious. musical_soul May 2012 #52
+1 HotRodTuna May 2012 #117
Or maybe the younger generation is sick of appeasers and know-it-alls. nt froster May 2012 #175
They better get used to dealing with them HotRodTuna May 2012 #184
Youth does tend to bring that LanternWaste May 2012 #198
Not sure we should care much about the feelings of the people the OP's referring to. (nt) Posteritatis May 2012 #12
this kind of OP isn't exactly going to win them over quinnox May 2012 #17
I'm sick of coddling the feelings of bigots. Kurska May 2012 #20
I agree. And we have no national leaders to lead the charge of the public shaming of bigots. Luminous Animal May 2012 #22
Thank you for that moment of clarity. Duncan Grant May 2012 #68
At this point most of them aren't going to be won over anyway Posteritatis May 2012 #27
So, it's safe to assume NorthCarolina May 2012 #28
kinda picked up on that vibe myself frylock May 2012 #45
this seems to have really struck a chord frylock May 2012 #44
And what would this "honey" strategy of yours look like? Duncan Grant May 2012 #65
Fuck them all. They can't be won over with honey. But, they will eventually die out. morningfog May 2012 #71
Bullshit dbackjon May 2012 #103
I'm so sick of that pansy-ass line it makes me wanna puke every time I see a DUer spew it. nt froster May 2012 #176
How many times have you seen it in your 90 minutes of membership? cyberswede May 2012 #177
Aren't you observant? And wouldn't you like to know? ;-) nt froster May 2012 #179
Name one. lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #95
keep reading downthread and you'll fine one n/t maddezmom May 2012 #110
Why not post it here? noamnety May 2012 #57
+!!! nt froster May 2012 #178
There are lots of rightwing bigots lurking here. Arugula Latte May 2012 #67
Not just here. Renew Deal May 2012 #80
Thanks for outing yourself RetroLounge May 2012 #70
. fascisthunter May 2012 #86
People have a right to be angry Renew Deal May 2012 #79
Board nannies rule. WilliamPitt May 2012 #84
off-putting to who? fascisthunter May 2012 #85
Anonymous preaching to an anonymous choir is a low risk activity. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #94
Exactly. But responding with anything but total agreement is not. HotRodTuna May 2012 #119
Hey, HotShot! If you have a problem with LGBTQ rights, say it. n/t TriMera May 2012 #124
LOL maddezmom May 2012 #125
Yeah why would someone post this on our Brony fansite?? progressoid May 2012 #105
That image is hilarious. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #159
My hero! nt froster May 2012 #180
Your concern is noted. n/t racaulk May 2012 #129
Yeah OP, how dare you? froster May 2012 #171
Hopefully sooner than later. Great Caesars Ghost May 2012 #7
Are you saying everyone who doesn't support gay marriage is...old? Not sure what you mean, though I uppityperson May 2012 #10
I'm just referencing the demographics of the situation. Kurska May 2012 #15
Thanks for clarifying for me. That would be wonderful and I do think things are changing overall. uppityperson May 2012 #62
"like I said upthread it is hard to break with peers on issues like this." WinniSkipper May 2012 #139
Obsolete's probably a better term. Posteritatis May 2012 #18
I don't think what the OP is saying is completely off base. Butterbean May 2012 #21
OP is saying that more older people are against it than younger people. Bladian May 2012 #50
The things they do look awful c-c-c-cold.. Fumesucker May 2012 #19
But bigots are a smaller percentage of younger generations abelenkpe May 2012 #111
I suspect that the OP will be as disillusioned with his own generation at my age as I am with my own Fumesucker May 2012 #193
good, but a much better phrase is marriage equality. cali May 2012 #24
Yes, but the older generations definitely spew more hate and bigotry, my dear. Cali_Democrat May 2012 #33
probably, sweetie, but that doesn't mean that young people are cali May 2012 #38
Of course I remember that, honey, but please see recent polls on marriage equality: Cali_Democrat May 2012 #40
uh, prejudice against GLBT folks isn't the only prejudice honeypie. cali May 2012 #48
I know prejudice against GLBT folks isn't the only prejudice Cali_Democrat May 2012 #49
honey, sweetheart, honeypie...are you two married? HotRodTuna May 2012 #153
Hit too close to home? MNBrewer May 2012 #54
Who on DU does not support gay marirage? JoePhilly May 2012 #26
"focus your anger at those who deserve it" NorthCarolina May 2012 #32
Yes, and again ... who on DU does not support gay marriage? JoePhilly May 2012 #69
This is part of an ongoing trend on DU. It's sad. Dawgs May 2012 #77
Well, if you are a supporter, then obviously this NorthCarolina May 2012 #81
There may be, but I have not seen anyone post that they are against gay marriage. JoePhilly May 2012 #114
Here you go! NorthCarolina May 2012 #174
Nicely done, NorthCarolina. That's called, "Ouch!" nt froster May 2012 #181
Actually it's called "that poster is no longer with us because they are a bigot"...but then neither ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #182
Not Directly dbackjon May 2012 #104
I guess I'd respond this way ... JoePhilly May 2012 #130
they are here CreekDog May 2012 #186
There's a realpolitik contingent here that would rather defer their support until "later." Posteritatis May 2012 #43
And of course Bohunk68 May 2012 #112
Of *course* I want a unicorn. I mean, duh. Posteritatis May 2012 #170
Young people are our hope for the future. nclib May 2012 #34
Minor nitpick eridani May 2012 #35
Right on. sarcasmo May 2012 #36
You won't get many (any?) to respond directly to your message as DU automatically bans kelly1mm May 2012 #37
Why "disguised as faith"? eallen May 2012 #41
You can tell the difference by their actions jeff47 May 2012 #97
Every faith interprets its scripture as it wants eallen May 2012 #197
There really isn't any room for interpretation here. jeff47 May 2012 #199
There's always interpretation. Faith picks and chooses scripture. eallen May 2012 #202
Thanks, Kurska. You and most of the kids totally rock. Zorra May 2012 #42
LOL redqueen May 2012 #46
relatively old f*** here Skittles May 2012 #47
Me too! Lifelong Protester May 2012 #92
I'm still hoping and praying for a miracle. musical_soul May 2012 #51
Im from N.C., and I am appalled this is up for a vote. mwdem May 2012 #55
As went Gov. Wallace... so too will go anti-gay bigots. +1 Fearless May 2012 #56
Spend your time where it matters. Logical May 2012 #58
Someone on here posted earlier that minority voters tend to oppose same-sex marriage. Jamaal510 May 2012 #59
Why on EARTH would you believe that "statistic?" It's FALSE. You should KNOW that, as a black man. DevonRex May 2012 #73
That sounds like something feasible for the RW media to do--divide and conquer. Jamaal510 May 2012 #74
That's right. DevonRex May 2012 #75
I just learned that the N.C. amendment is even worse than I thought. pnwmom May 2012 #60
Unfortunately, many NC voters were in the same boat. jeff47 May 2012 #98
Obama doesn't support gay marriage... MellowDem May 2012 #63
I truly believe that fruitsmoothie45 May 2012 #93
Oh yeah? I heard that he does. pnwmom May 2012 #189
Haha, touche! MellowDem May 2012 #196
That is a grave that will take many hands to dig varelse May 2012 #64
Yep. Most of you anti-gay folks are older and will DIE OUT. Arugula Latte May 2012 #66
Here ya go Fla_Democrat May 2012 #72
! KG May 2012 #82
That was a heartwarming diatribe HotRodTuna May 2012 #83
yeah, well, that wasn't why it was posted, so.... fascisthunter May 2012 #88
yeah, lets worry about all the poor bigots reading DU maddezmom May 2012 #90
Well, it was posted on DU to DU readers HotRodTuna May 2012 #115
I'm not concerned about stealth trolls or bigots that read DU and are offended maddezmom May 2012 #116
Sometimes we get tired of hearing we have to handle this fight a certain way justiceischeap May 2012 #118
^^This^^ n/t TriMera May 2012 #123
Hey, guess what, fellow DU member? Morning Dew May 2012 #122
Guess what, my post was in regard to the hateful tone HotRodTuna May 2012 #155
so do you support marriage equality? maddezmom May 2012 #158
Sorry, I thought you asked "Do you think every single member of DU supports gay marriage?" Morning Dew May 2012 #162
If they want to abide by TOS, they will keep it to themselves. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #168
Hit a nerve? ...nt TeeYiYi May 2012 #91
Amen. AtheistCrusader May 2012 #87
Gay Marriage will never happen shagsak May 2012 #96
We tried "separate but equal" once. It didn't go so well. jeff47 May 2012 #100
You are partially right shagsak May 2012 #128
What you are proposing is not compromise. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #134
Marriage is not a religious word jeff47 May 2012 #151
You do understand that there is more at stake here from a legal perspective, no? Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #120
Absolutely shagsak May 2012 #133
Gay marriage will never happen... with attitudes like yours justiceischeap May 2012 #121
attitudes like mine? shagsak May 2012 #132
So we should just let them continue on in their bigotry? Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #135
You don't get to define marriage, period. TriMera May 2012 #136
There you go again. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #141
I know, maybe someday I'll learn. TriMera May 2012 #144
You may very well have a progressive stance based on YOUR religious leanings justiceischeap May 2012 #150
Marriage precedes Christianity (by a very long time) and separate but equal never works. LeftyMom May 2012 #127
I'm reading just the opposite Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #137
No shagsak May 2012 #138
Pro equality? No you aren't. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #140
Marriage is not a religious institution. That's why it's culturally universal in one form or another LeftyMom May 2012 #142
Well, great then! shagsak May 2012 #143
Religious Liberals from New Jersey who support marriage equality: JackBeck May 2012 #145
What's up is a separation of church and state. TriMera May 2012 #147
I know there are - I are one. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #148
Stop blaming bigotry on your invisible friend. LeftyMom May 2012 #149
Not a Bigot, Not a Homophobe shagsak May 2012 #152
Recognizing other people's rights isn't persecuting you. Nobody's going to make you marry a dude. LeftyMom May 2012 #154
Maybe you shouldn't mock his "invisible friend" HotRodTuna May 2012 #156
Homophobia is very offensive to decent people. LeftyMom May 2012 #190
Gee, thats a relief. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #160
Please explain how permitting people to marry persecutes you. (nt) Posteritatis May 2012 #188
Marriage is NOT solely religious. Married atheist couples are still married. Zhade May 2012 #201
A co-worker of mine just lost his "companion" of 28 years blueamy66 May 2012 #99
When my partner Bohunk68 May 2012 #113
I wish that I could change things..... blueamy66 May 2012 #194
People tend to be selective when applying the term "bigot". The Link May 2012 #107
Well, check the news today. He just owned up. HotRodTuna May 2012 #157
"owned up"? Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #161
Yes, he's been very cagey about his stance HotRodTuna May 2012 #164
I have seen enough. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #166
Ok...not sure what that's supposed to mean HotRodTuna May 2012 #183
owned up? kind of an odd phrase for supporting marriage maddezmom May 2012 #163
Considering that most people assumed he was for it HotRodTuna May 2012 #165
so do you support marriage equality? n/t maddezmom May 2012 #167
And younger generations will only remember them with shame. Nt abelenkpe May 2012 #108
I am so thankful your generation is more tolerant Rex May 2012 #126
Thank you - you give me hope for the future lovemydog May 2012 #146
those people are backward thinking Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #187
I don't think that age totally defines this issue - lynne May 2012 #195
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