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joshcryer

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13. I don't think it's opportunistic at all.

Sun May 10, 2015, 04:56 AM

May 2015

The US will always attempt to do trade deals. Obama, I think, sincerely believes he's "solved" the problem and realized a way to make a trade deal that works for everyone. I'm not convinced and I believe he is mistaken, but that doesn't make him some opportunistic shill. It means he's human and he's just making a mistake.

If he's not mistaken, if TPP works and doesn't destroy jobs, then it will become a blueprint for all trade agreements going forward. Whether he thinks he will be the "founding father" of future US trade agreements, I can't say. I can't say if that even falls into his motivations.

But he's never been this way over any piece of legislation ever. I think he honestly believes in his advisers and policy wonks behind the TPP. For good or for bad. I think he has that much faith in it.

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Why Obama is Happy to Fight Elizabeth Warren on The TPP Trade Deal [View all] KoKo May 2015 OP

They Nicknamed Humphrey the Happy Warrior Demeter May 2015 #1

Bernie Sanders on TPP EndElectoral May 2015 #2

+1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast May 2015 #6

This should be its own post BrotherIvan May 2015 #7

If you haven't yet, I urge you to post this as an OP... AzDar May 2015 #10

I would like someone to explain why just one of these points is okay. Just one. Any one. Anyone? djean111 May 2015 #28

+1 Johonny May 2015 #33

maybe the President FlatBaroque May 2015 #3

I believe it affects Obama's post presidential opportunities in some way... libdem4life May 2015 #4

I don't think it's opportunistic at all. joshcryer May 2015 #13

I can't bring myself to believe that he doing this for "opportunistic" reasons cali May 2015 #14

I think he views it in a vacuum. joshcryer May 2015 #17

that's a good point: He is waaay invested in the TPP cali May 2015 #18

I must disagree on one point. This Congress is a nightmare. joshcryer May 2015 #19

this congress is not the only congress that will be in place over the life of the tpa cali May 2015 #23

Not fair, even the UAW championed KORUS labor enforcement. joshcryer May 2015 #26

actually, one trade deal has been much like another as regards results cali May 2015 #27

It is a pleasure to read joshcryer and you discuss this. The two of you largely, but not pampango May 2015 #20

thanks. I enjoy discussing it with him... and you. cali May 2015 #24

It is a pleasure to read cali and you discuss this. The two of you largely, but not totally, pampango May 2015 #22

Thanks pampango. joshcryer May 2015 #25

I may have intimated that, but let's face it...it's what Presidents do. Bill Clinton didn't get libdem4life May 2015 #32

That's the ONLY reason I can see for him so almost in a panic to separate from those who libdem4life May 2015 #31

My wife was just saying that to me last night. diabeticman May 2015 #29

The TPP will be great Art_from_Ark May 2015 #5

And a Unicorn and Rainbow thrown in for good measure! KoKo May 2015 #36

Fearing a corporate and wallstreet takeover of our courts and country Ichingcarpenter May 2015 #8

there's this head-scratcher: ibegurpard May 2015 #9

Completely unfair. joshcryer May 2015 #12

Yet true so not actually unfair even if less than charitable. TheKentuckian May 2015 #35

I believe he is sincere, if mistaken. joshcryer May 2015 #11

No indeed. The ISDS is only ONE point of contention cali May 2015 #15

Indeed it should. joshcryer May 2015 #16

Obama had "a massive fight with Wall Street"? You could've fooled me. Scuba May 2015 #21

Yes, I found that amusing as well. SamKnause May 2015 #30

And he always has. hifiguy May 2015 #38

Remember when he told the Banksters: "I'm the only thing between you and the Pitchforks?" KoKo May 2015 #39

Obama on what others want..... Historic NY May 2015 #34

WHAT Wall $treet reform? hifiguy May 2015 #37