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joshcryer

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16. Indeed it should.

Sun May 10, 2015, 05:18 AM

May 2015

The US is a corporate state. For ISDS to weaken corporate influence, I think, would be moving backwards for US hegemony. (Please let it be clear I don't think this is a good thing, in another post I agreed with a poster that US corporations winning ISDS cases means they get to exploit the developing world further and does nothing for US jobs, but no one in politics is making that argument, and it's a valid argument.)

The intellectual property provisions are a killer for me. There's absolutely nothing in there about bargaining power for developing countries. So they are automatically at the back of the queue with regards to negotiating IP costs or rates. That is a killer to basically all sustainable or renewable energy technology. It basically ensures more coal exports rather than exporting capability to build out solar or wind.

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Why Obama is Happy to Fight Elizabeth Warren on The TPP Trade Deal [View all] KoKo May 2015 OP

They Nicknamed Humphrey the Happy Warrior Demeter May 2015 #1

Bernie Sanders on TPP EndElectoral May 2015 #2

+1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast May 2015 #6

This should be its own post BrotherIvan May 2015 #7

If you haven't yet, I urge you to post this as an OP... AzDar May 2015 #10

I would like someone to explain why just one of these points is okay. Just one. Any one. Anyone? djean111 May 2015 #28

+1 Johonny May 2015 #33

maybe the President FlatBaroque May 2015 #3

I believe it affects Obama's post presidential opportunities in some way... libdem4life May 2015 #4

I don't think it's opportunistic at all. joshcryer May 2015 #13

I can't bring myself to believe that he doing this for "opportunistic" reasons cali May 2015 #14

I think he views it in a vacuum. joshcryer May 2015 #17

that's a good point: He is waaay invested in the TPP cali May 2015 #18

I must disagree on one point. This Congress is a nightmare. joshcryer May 2015 #19

this congress is not the only congress that will be in place over the life of the tpa cali May 2015 #23

Not fair, even the UAW championed KORUS labor enforcement. joshcryer May 2015 #26

actually, one trade deal has been much like another as regards results cali May 2015 #27

It is a pleasure to read joshcryer and you discuss this. The two of you largely, but not pampango May 2015 #20

thanks. I enjoy discussing it with him... and you. cali May 2015 #24

It is a pleasure to read cali and you discuss this. The two of you largely, but not totally, pampango May 2015 #22

Thanks pampango. joshcryer May 2015 #25

I may have intimated that, but let's face it...it's what Presidents do. Bill Clinton didn't get libdem4life May 2015 #32

That's the ONLY reason I can see for him so almost in a panic to separate from those who libdem4life May 2015 #31

My wife was just saying that to me last night. diabeticman May 2015 #29

The TPP will be great Art_from_Ark May 2015 #5

And a Unicorn and Rainbow thrown in for good measure! KoKo May 2015 #36

Fearing a corporate and wallstreet takeover of our courts and country Ichingcarpenter May 2015 #8

there's this head-scratcher: ibegurpard May 2015 #9

Completely unfair. joshcryer May 2015 #12

Yet true so not actually unfair even if less than charitable. TheKentuckian May 2015 #35

I believe he is sincere, if mistaken. joshcryer May 2015 #11

No indeed. The ISDS is only ONE point of contention cali May 2015 #15

Indeed it should. joshcryer May 2015 #16

Obama had "a massive fight with Wall Street"? You could've fooled me. Scuba May 2015 #21

Yes, I found that amusing as well. SamKnause May 2015 #30

And he always has. hifiguy May 2015 #38

Remember when he told the Banksters: "I'm the only thing between you and the Pitchforks?" KoKo May 2015 #39

Obama on what others want..... Historic NY May 2015 #34

WHAT Wall $treet reform? hifiguy May 2015 #37