If Sanders and Warren were telling the truth, they'd argue FOR, not against, the TPA.

[Buns_of_Fire]

71. Okay, so the way I understand it:

If TPA passes:
1) The other signatories are happy;
2) They finish crossing the T's and dotting the I's;
3) Everybody directly involved signs off on it;
4) The final agreement it released to everybody;
4) It goes to congress for final approval, straight up-or-down, no amendments;
5) It either passes or fails and that's that.

If TPA DOESN'T pass:
1) The other signatories may or may not even want to hash through it all again;
2) More T's and I's get molested;
3) A final agreement gets released;
4) It goes to congress for full debate and amendments, where every worthless nutjob gets to try to add (or remove) crap to their heart's content (think: Cruz, Inhofe, etc.), some gets in, some doesn't;
5) The amended version goes back to the trade representatives to be re-negotiated with the other signatories, who get to add in all the crap THEY didn't think of last time around;
6) Go to step (2) and repeat until the sun goes supernova.

The President doesn't trust congress, congress doesn't trust the President, and American workers aren't too damned thrilled with EITHER of them right about now.

So, if I'm correct about the process, killing the TPA would probably effectively kill both the TPP and the TTIP.

And from what little I've been allowed to see about both of them, good. Trouble is, King-in-Waiting Jamie and King-in-Waiting Lloyd will be back next administration to try again...