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Unvanguard

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6. Maybe a bit overstated but sounds basically right to me.

Sun May 10, 2015, 10:06 AM

May 2015

The case for ISDS is that it fixes rule-of-law deficits in places where the norm is weak; investors who don't trust the domestic courts to protect their rights have access to an alternative. The problematic institutional features of the process, described in the article, combined with the willingness of investors to use it as a process even where domestic courts would provide adequate treatment, make it unclear that this is actually their primary accomplishment.

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Five Leading Legal Scholars on TPP: We Write Out of Grave Concern [View all] eridani May 2015 OP

^ Wilms May 2015 #1

"Investor-state" might just be the most offensive term in the English language. Scuba May 2015 #2

Along with "stakeholders"... I was thinking that as I read the OP. Buns_of_Fire May 2015 #4

The Investor Class- one of my most disliked, but accurate terms these days. appalachiablue May 2015 #43

Aren't they kin to "Corporation People"? libdem4life May 2015 #44

It bothers Fascists not in the least. Enthusiast May 2015 #47

Seems like they'd do better to become an arbiter so that countries or corporations could choose them Hoyt May 2015 #3

the system itself has an inherent conflict cali May 2015 #5

Funny how most countries are content with the dispute mechanism that is in over 2500 trade agreement Hoyt May 2015 #9

the Europeans are distinctly unhappy with the ISDS proposal in cali May 2015 #15

They'll sign them, complaints or a few protesters, notwithstanding. Hoyt May 2015 #23

OK, we're done. You are just like the people you whinge about cali May 2015 #27

There's a bit of xenophobia in the opposition too, not to mention lack of concern for poor in Hoyt May 2015 #30

Anyone defending the TPP is either a señor exec with a multinational DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #8

Well, many opposed are proof our education system has failed us, and Hoyt May 2015 #10

I asked you a question. You're not able to answer that question. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #13

You made accusations. Hoyt May 2015 #17

You think we'll get extra tax revenues from TPP and we will use the money for "safety nets"? DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #20

Yes, it will increase tax revenue now, and even more when Congress gets off its rear Hoyt May 2015 #22

People generally vote with their own self interest in mind. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #26

Well, that is one of the problems in this country - personal greed. Hoyt May 2015 #29

I'm glad that you, Boehner, and McConnell are beginning to address the injustices. nt DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #32

I've been doing that. And I don't side with ignorant, xenophobic Tbaggers on TPP. Hoyt May 2015 #38

TPP is no differenent from the other "trade" agreeements that have eridani May 2015 #49

Many people posting on it from both sides haven't done their due diligence cali May 2015 #16

And many are opposed because they believe he's intent on making them slaves, or some Hoyt May 2015 #18

anyone employing that language is full of shit. cali May 2015 #25

TPP is only peripherally a trade agreement. Unvanguard May 2015 #14

You want domestic courts that are independent enough to rule against the government. Unvanguard May 2015 #12

Yeah, the United Nations and WTO are conspirators. Hoyt May 2015 #19

I'm not sure where you got that claim from my post. Unvanguard May 2015 #21

I know some law professors MannyGoldstein May 2015 #36

Maybe a bit overstated but sounds basically right to me. Unvanguard May 2015 #6

This is so completely disheartening, made immeasurably so by its being pushed by a DEMOCRATIC Presi- WinkyDink May 2015 #7

+1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast May 2015 #48

The notion that citizens, scholars or presidents can do anything to halt this inevitable surrender librechik May 2015 #11

they respond to this PowerToThePeople May 2015 #24

Just please remember that the Reign of Terror was followed by HereSince1628 May 2015 #31

We have not kept it. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #33

Totally agree...Reagan,the DLC, and Bush tax-cuts all preferred capitalism to democracy HereSince1628 May 2015 #35

True. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #37

The republic given to us by Mr. Madison and Mr. Franklin, among others, hifiguy May 2015 #40

I wouldn't argue against that... my comment isn't that things must change HereSince1628 May 2015 #42

Silly! Obviously they haven't listened to anonymous DU Internet experts!!11!!11 riderinthestorm May 2015 #28

Tax inversion strategies may give unfair advantage because of ISDS Freelancer May 2015 #34

K & R Duppers May 2015 #39

It's nothing short of war upon the people. kentuck May 2015 #41

IT is a giveaway to the owners, an insult to the labor class. Rex May 2015 #45

We used to say "follow the money" But this is so opaque that we must "follow the cheerleaders" libdem4life May 2015 #46