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In reply to the discussion: Without endorsing TPP, some things to consider about it. [View all]cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)76. You Are The One With An Agenda
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"Our demands for it should be aware of, and tailored to those reasons." - With Fast Track, the
djean111
May 2015
#1
There is no trade agreement. There are negotiations on a trade agreement.
True Blue Door
May 2015
#14
When the final negotiations take place and a deal is agreed to, it will be submitted to
okaawhatever
May 2015
#63
And Can One Believe Platitudes Over History - If So - That Is The Definition Of Gullibility
cantbeserious
May 2015
#9
So instead of actually making an argument, you just assert that you have one.
True Blue Door
May 2015
#18
I just informed you that the evidence exists that the arguments were similar in many
cali
May 2015
#20
Obama - Like HRC - Serves The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks - Based On His Support Of TPP
cantbeserious
May 2015
#44
The Emotional Upheaval And Main Street Impact Of NAFTA Can Be See On Many Streets In The US
cantbeserious
May 2015
#52
Now One Now Has To Question Your Reason - Studies Galore About The Impact Of NAFTA
cantbeserious
May 2015
#58
No - I am Not Willing To Do Your Homework For You - There Is A Difference
cantbeserious
May 2015
#61
I disagree. China's growing power is not some fundamental law of the universe.
True Blue Door
May 2015
#82
It does have a specific cause, and solution, but a trade agreement will not stop it. n/t
Exilednight
May 2015
#84
Having the most money does not make one a superpower. They're not even close.
True Blue Door
May 2015
#92
Here, let me fuck you before China fucks you? That's really what it boils down to?
X_Digger
May 2015
#72
I think these are reasonable arguments although I am sure many will dispute them.
DCBob
May 2015
#10
Thanks. I don't know what to feel about it, but I can see it's not as simple as some claim.
True Blue Door
May 2015
#15
One of my biggest issues with TPP is from the viewpoint of the smaller less powerful nations. What
jwirr
May 2015
#50
So less than a $1 an hour will lift someone out of poverty? I doubt it. And also why do we have all
jwirr
May 2015
#89
Of course there are a few who rise. But is it a real reform for the people? By the way, our jobs are
jwirr
May 2015
#93
I was just trying to show that more power to the powerful was not going to be good for any of us.
jwirr
May 2015
#97
FDR's trade deals were about trade. From everything we have so far seen about TPP this is not
jwirr
May 2015
#51
Can you elaborate the distinction between trade and international corporate profit?
True Blue Door
May 2015
#53
Trade = export of US products. International corporations = import of foreign made products to the
jwirr
May 2015
#57
Then we agree on definitions. My problem with FTAs as currently configured
True Blue Door
May 2015
#68
I hear what you are saying - don't know if it would work. Emmanual Todd in his book "After the
jwirr
May 2015
#69
Japan is a high wage, high population, high consumer partner, dwarfing the other nations economies, good to remember that.
Fred Sanders
May 2015
#36
Indeed, and China was apparently quite irked when Japan signed on to TPP.
True Blue Door
May 2015
#39
The Chinese being irked puts what into my pockets and presents me with what opportunities?
TheKentuckian
May 2015
#62
I'm concerned with both. You get the domestic issues that you claim will fix trade problems and
TheKentuckian
May 2015
#103
A lot of it is knee jerk. That particular concern, however, sounds very credible.
True Blue Door
May 2015
#91
I'm not convinced that trade agreements are what hollowed out our middle-class.
True Blue Door
May 2015
#96
Whatever. People have been sending links above, posting valid arguments and you simply ignore them.
Katashi_itto
May 2015
#98