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In reply to the discussion: Here's the source for some of the pro-TPP bull$hit being disseminated on DU: [View all]woo me with science
(32,139 posts)35. K&R Those who build surveillance machines
..also build propaganda machines.
We live in a vile, magnificently funded propaganda state. Our system, and our current corporate-purchased "representatives," are deeply corrupt.
Obama taps "cognitive infiltrator" Cass Sunstein for Committee to create "trust" in NSA:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023512796
Editor of major German newspaper says he planted stories for CIA
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026163872
Salon: Obama confidants spine-chilling proposal: Cass Sunstein wants the government to "cognitively infiltrate" anti-government groups
http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/
The US government's online campaigns of disinformation, manipulation, and smear.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024560097
Snowden: Training Guide for GCHQ, NSA Agents Infiltrating and Disrupting Alternative Media Online
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/02/25/snowden-training-guide-for-gchq-nsa-agents-infiltrating-and-disrupting-alternative-media-online/
The influx of corporate propaganda-spouting posters is blatant and unnatural.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3189367
U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News To Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023262111
The goal of the propaganda assaults across the internet is not to convince anyone of anything.*
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023359801
The government figured out sockpuppet management but not "persona management."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023358242
The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4159454
Seventeen techniques for truth suppression.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4249741
Just do some Googling on astroturfing - big organizations have some sophisticated tools.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1208351
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Here's the source for some of the pro-TPP bull$hit being disseminated on DU: [View all]
brentspeak
May 2015
OP
Maybe. But I think that the idea that tax dollars might help some people move up one or two rungs on
GoneFishin
May 2015
#161
I would love to see the black budget for psyops on the American people these days.
woo me with science
May 2015
#97
All Supposition And Conjecture - However, Real Americans Lived Through The Past Trade Agreements
cantbeserious
May 2015
#3
I have 71 years of experience. I remember life before the trade agreements.
JDPriestly
May 2015
#189
oh, that is fine, years ago I got my captains license in Florida so I can rent a boat there
hollysmom
May 2015
#134
Noted conspiracy theorist Robert Reich is also bad mouthing this wonderful trade deal.
FlatBaroque
May 2015
#45
NAFTA decimated manufacturing and the ancillary industries that support those businesses that
Ikonoklast
May 2015
#159
Logical Fallacy: Your argument 'TPP or "anarchy leading to Chinese hegemony" ' is a False Dichotomy.
xocet
May 2015
#118
of course, along with "no insider knowledge of the TPP" ...you left out the parts about
magical thyme
May 2015
#146
"tariffs, taxes, safety concerns, piracy, currency exchange, port management, time zones"
eridani
May 2015
#147
I think it's cute how you reduced anyone disagreeing with your position as "preferring anarchy...
LanternWaste
May 2015
#181
Actually, my Anti-TPP Position is based on being in international trade and transportation since '73
KJG52
May 2015
#80
We are people, not disposable comodities. If these deals are so good, then it should reflect
whereisjustice
May 2015
#107
I favor just breaking our current trade agreements and limiting imports until wages rise
JDPriestly
May 2015
#188
I apologize for sounding like a broken record as some of my "friends" keep pointing out, BUT
rhett o rick
May 2015
#19
Biggest lie ever is "low skill manufacturing jobs"... they are moving engineering, research, legal,
whereisjustice
May 2015
#109
Your claims are bullshit. Let the 1% billionaries sacrifice for a change, your "reality" isn't
whereisjustice
May 2015
#154
I see the same problem with the NSA apologists who have fallen in love with our police state...
whereisjustice
May 2015
#108
Instead of a long weekend at Virginia Beach, trekking the Himalayas is the norm.
SMC22307
May 2015
#121
So White House officials are using tax dollars to fund an astroturf PR group?
brentspeak
May 2015
#11
IMAGINE that this White House would be complicit in manipulating and propagandizing Americans!
woo me with science
May 2015
#91
Um, Progressive Coalition for America is about as sincere a name as Americans for Prosperity.
djean111
May 2015
#34
Maybe you ought to read about his position, before posting crud you consider "progressive."
Hoyt
May 2015
#38
Better than people who use the word "s#@t" all the time. Do you have a substantive comment?
Hoyt
May 2015
#47
You too should read about his position. Maybe if you are doing more for folks, you could tell us
Hoyt
May 2015
#128
I'm talking about Deval Patrick. I really don't care who he uses to accomplish his goals.
Hoyt
May 2015
#131
Maybe you too could tell us what you are doing that has the chance to accomplish more than Patrick.
Hoyt
May 2015
#133
"social impact" investing = Green washing Astroturf and neoliberal indentured status for the poor.
TheKentuckian
May 2015
#148
And the Bain vultures will be happy with scraping off just a little bit of profit?
SMC22307
May 2015
#202
Patrick doesn't do that, nor does he try to handle uninsured patients under EMTALA to avoid
Hoyt
May 2015
#203
Omar Kahn, worst campaign manager ever, re: Charlie Crist was sent to DC to begin this talk!
TheNutcracker
May 2015
#29
There have been plenty of polls showing "actual rank-and-file Democrats" support TPP.
pampango
May 2015
#40
That's an effective way to discount poll results that you don't agree with. n/t
pampango
May 2015
#71
Why do you consider them "made-up stats"? They are consistent with polls from other sources.
pampango
May 2015
#168
I like Obama but the TPP is corporate crap and that's why the majority of Dems in DC don't want to
think
May 2015
#54
what a great reason. so you would love a food you hate because of how someone you hate feels about
NRaleighLiberal
May 2015
#98
Admitting to being a fully reactionary thinker probably won't garner much respect.
stillwaiting
May 2015
#150
And there are those of us who simply want to know the details before making a decision.
Buzz Clik
May 2015
#69
This belongs on the Greatest Page. Actually, it should be pinned to the top of the board
woo me with science
May 2015
#100
And they are here, aren't they. Their day job must be writing Hallmark greeting cards.
whereisjustice
May 2015
#111