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stevenleser

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60. Fight how? Republicans had the two ultimate trump cards. The Florida state legislature AND

Sun May 10, 2015, 09:20 PM

May 2015

they knew that if the dispute continued it would throw the election into the House of Representatives and the House delegations favored Republicans meaning an installation of Bush anyway. The election being thrown into the House is the ultimate Constitutional remedy for a disputed Presidential election.

The Florida State legislature quietly voted towards the end of the recount to give Florida's electoral votes to Bush regardless of the recount. And it would have been legal for them to do so:

Article 1, Section 2 of the Constitution:
Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii

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Did Jeb Bush, Kathleen Harris and the Supreme Court just steal the 2000 sElection "a little"? [View all] reddread May 2015 OP

I thought the consortium Ms. Yertle May 2015 #1

No---the consortium found that Gore had more votes. trumad May 2015 #2

I see Ms. Yertle May 2015 #3

You are correct... trumad May 2015 #4

More votes were cast for Gore. Everything else written about the topic obfuscates that reality. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #33

by absolute necessity reddread May 2015 #34

Overvotes have always been invalid ballots 1939 May 2015 #7

The Voting Rights act of 1965, IIRC, covered voter intent. Hassin Bin Sober May 2015 #27

You are correct, sir. What is important is Florida law, Damansarajaya May 2015 #62

Are "recount scenarios" your area of interest or "who got more votes"? lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #32

Technicality question: Ms. Yertle May 2015 #35

To be candid, I don't give a shit about technicality questions. lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #41

Well, Ms. Yertle May 2015 #43

clearly you are not referring to due process. reddread May 2015 #44

"Process" = 1) we vote 2) those votes are counted 3) the winner takes office. lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #50

Lumberjack Jeff has it exactly right. Damansarajaya May 2015 #63

Yes. It was a perfect storm on three fronts. randome May 2015 #5

#4. Bill Clinton, as head of the Democratic Party, allowed infrastructure to rot KittyWampus May 2015 #8

Helping Democrats has never been a Clinton thing Damansarajaya May 2015 #64

no malice aforethought? nothing was planned? a perfect accident? reddread May 2015 #9

'The need' is to deflect guilt from Nader. onehandle May 2015 #12

I dont see them mentioned in the OP reddread May 2015 #13

I don't blame Clinton or Gore, but I do blame a lot of Dems... joeybee12 May 2015 #23

Fight how? Republicans had the two ultimate trump cards. The Florida state legislature AND stevenleser May 2015 #60

randome... Rex May 2015 #52

More than three, actually. Jim Lane May 2015 #58

And the Florida state legislature which quietly voted to give Florida's Electoral College votes to stevenleser May 2015 #59

I think it has happened and will happen over and over. Even some Floridians on this forum highly... BlueJazz May 2015 #6

Let us not forget: catnhatnh May 2015 #10

But…but…but it all worked out!!! PCIntern May 2015 #11

The Repukes have stolen every election they won since WWII. harrose May 2015 #14

Reeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaallly???? Ms. Yertle May 2015 #36

we all know it was because of extremist leftist candidates reddread May 2015 #40

Mondale was an extemist leftis? n/t Ms. Yertle May 2015 #45

did you divorce my Turtle? reddread May 2015 #46

compared to Bush/Reagan? reddread May 2015 #47

If the Repukes Didn't Steal Those Elections... harrose May 2015 #61

Florida in 2000 edhopper May 2015 #15

Romney would not benefit Jeb reddread May 2015 #17

Reading the comments, everyone seems to forget the real reason the shrub "won" Florida. Lochloosa May 2015 #16

Read the essay on Florida 2000 hifiguy May 2015 #18

despite all the facts, and those outdated investigative journalists reddread May 2015 #19

The logic is that a good portion of the Nader voters edhopper May 2015 #20

that isnt logic, that is a baseless assertion reddread May 2015 #21

I was addressing your question of edhopper May 2015 #22

exactly reddread May 2015 #25

Becuase it is an easy excuse and a lazy excuse nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #28

Exactly and thankfully we don't forget who voted for our enemies. Rex May 2015 #53

My recollection of one aspect: graegoyle May 2015 #24

per curiam reddread May 2015 #26

I lived in Florida during that election. Aerows May 2015 #29

No--they stole it "A LOT." MADem May 2015 #30

I thought everyone knew they stole it? It was beyond obvious and it wasn't " a little." nt BreakfastClub May 2015 #31

USNWR ran a story (early Sept. 2001) that, yes, it was stolen like it was some banana republic MisterP May 2015 #37

Pretty sure Jimmy Carter rated our elections unacceptable reddread May 2015 #38

NADER DID 9-11! AND MADE ME STUB MY TOE! MisterP May 2015 #39

3,000 plus people died from a horrible tragedy/betrayal reddread May 2015 #42

in 2002 they blamed Nader for 9-11 (since Gore wouldn't have sat on his ass, which is itself correct MisterP May 2015 #57

I think that 9/11 interferred with an honest recount effort. Baitball Blogger May 2015 #48

I dont see how reddread May 2015 #49

The reporting of the results was definitely corrupted in that way. lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #51

We have been living in a sham system ever since. Baitball Blogger May 2015 #54

Ignore the whole Palm beach voting mess -- the "felons" list which included completely karynnj May 2015 #55

the fact that they still work to decrease voting rolls reddread May 2015 #56