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BainsBane

(53,001 posts)
63. Is that other OP about you?
Sun May 10, 2015, 11:05 PM
May 2015

The one denouncing incremental change as Third Way? I think the key is not whether one wants profound or incremental change, but whether people are willing to work for some specific result. I got the impression that the other OP thought wanting change was enough.

Well Said! Sherman A1 May 2015 #1
Thank you very much. MineralMan May 2015 #2
Fairness is important, some don't appear to get that. Agschmid May 2015 #3
Absolutely. MineralMan May 2015 #4
When I see a cat stalking a song bird, I make a lot of noise. NYC_SKP May 2015 #5
+1, he won't be happy until the canary stops annoying him with all that chirping. whereisjustice May 2015 #22
. Rex May 2015 #47
"Incremental" change - code for scraps tossed the people by corporate reps. polichick May 2015 #6
It is not code for anything. MineralMan May 2015 #7
Fools refuse to see the con. polichick May 2015 #8
I disagree completely with that. MineralMan May 2015 #9
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. Major Hogwash May 2015 #13
For too many years Dems have refused to see how their party has... polichick May 2015 #15
" . . . and the planet destroyed." Major Hogwash May 2015 #20
...are you kidding? F4lconF16 May 2015 #35
This+1,000 Liberalynn May 2015 #40
It's not just CO2, either Art_from_Ark May 2015 #74
It's unbelievable how much we have set into motion. F4lconF16 May 2015 #80
"Are you a climate change denier?" Major Hogwash May 2015 #75
I simply cannot believe that you guys still exist in the Democratic Party. F4lconF16 May 2015 #81
Here, go read this --- Major Hogwash May 2015 #82
Not gonna play. Bye. nt F4lconF16 May 2015 #83
Yup all this is a joke to you nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #98
What confirmation? Major Hogwash May 2015 #110
That it is a joke to you nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #113
See post #5. Major Hogwash May 2015 #131
Yes and it is as sad as it gets. Mojorabbit May 2015 #129
Yeah... F4lconF16 May 2015 #130
Your rebuttal is sorely lacking. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #166
This post would be an example of national mythology BainsBane May 2015 #66
+1,000 ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #85
Perhaps the country, as settled by white invaders, has always been soulless... polichick May 2015 #93
Crackpots see "the con" in everything. Bobbie Jo May 2015 #84
"everything" - nope, just the bullshit, lies, manipulations, secrets... polichick May 2015 #95
Right. Bobbie Jo May 2015 #99
Ad hominem treestar May 2015 #87
Obviously, it was a response to the poster's claims about "cynics." polichick May 2015 #94
I rec'd this OP because I do appreciate your optimism. I do have a couple of comments for what they rhett o rick May 2015 #10
I do not see any path to drastic change that will not create MineralMan May 2015 #11
Our founders were faced with the same dilema. No one wants war because it will add misery. rhett o rick May 2015 #14
To paraphrase Jack Nicholson in "As Good as It Gets" . . . . Major Hogwash May 2015 #25
You! sheshe2 May 2015 #30
I haven't seen that one before. Major Hogwash May 2015 #79
TBH~ sheshe2 May 2015 #97
Nice giggle, Madame Ambassador! MineralMan May 2015 #118
Grand Lady, wasn't she MineralMan. sheshe2 May 2015 #120
My sister had one, too. MineralMan May 2015 #123
Those "Newly Moral 2015" are profiting from the genocide of perhaps 50 million Native Americans jtuck004 May 2015 #67
What are you talking about? Major Hogwash May 2015 #76
Nice rant but I never mentioned "fathers". Your post had nothing to do with what I posted. rhett o rick May 2015 #101
We're not going to have a Civil War again. treestar May 2015 #88
I do admire your certainty. Certain that you know what's going to happen. I didn't mention rhett o rick May 2015 #102
What other form could it take? treestar May 2015 #105
I don't want violence and hope we can straighten things out peacefully but that's rhett o rick May 2015 #106
I just don't agree treestar May 2015 #107
Why don't YOU tell us what you see in our future? You disagree with me, fine, but what do you rhett o rick May 2015 #108
So, are you ready to take up arms? MineralMan May 2015 #117
I am disappointed in your attempts to misrepresent what I said. But I understand your frustration. rhett o rick May 2015 #125
So you have no plan at all? MineralMan May 2015 #126
This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick May 2015 #133
What's wrong with his plan now? Major Hogwash May 2015 #134
There are two factions here and the conservative faction has no plans. They have no stands on rhett o rick May 2015 #135
Oh, I support President Obama. Major Hogwash May 2015 #136
I hope you are justly rewarded for your blind loyalty. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #137
I'm not blinded by loyalty, rhett. Major Hogwash May 2015 #138
Funny that you think it's necessary to state "I'm just smarter than you are. " rhett o rick May 2015 #143
"Vote for HRC and let the country slide right into fascism" zappaman May 2015 #145
Are you afraid to fight for your freedoms and liberties? Are you fine with the rhett o rick May 2015 #149
Electing HRC will slide the US into fascism zappaman May 2015 #150
We will certainly continue in that direction. But I'm guessing you would embrace the comfort rhett o rick May 2015 #155
"Vote for HRC and let the country slide right into fascism" zappaman May 2015 #158
You ridicule my argument in lieu of addressing it. If you look up the 10 steps to rhett o rick May 2015 #164
You don't have an argument, my friend. zappaman May 2015 #174
Once again you prove that you have nothing but ridicule. What is sad is that you must rhett o rick May 2015 #179
Would you say people that vote for HRC are fascists? zappaman May 2015 #187
Do you not have anything substantive to say? nm rhett o rick May 2015 #188
Do you? zappaman May 2015 #190
If you use my words, then I will stand behind them. Changing my words to try to harass me rhett o rick May 2015 #192
You are correct actually but not precisely for the reasons you think nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #157
I notice that there is a certain group that use that emoticon as their signature line. rhett o rick May 2015 #159
Maybe you can photoshop Clinton as Hitler to REALLY make your wonderful point! zappaman May 2015 #161
I notice that you seem to be afraid to commit yourself on actual issues. Just use rhett o rick May 2015 #163
The third way boogeywoman is coming to get you. hrmjustin May 2015 #173
I guess you want fascism in this country! zappaman May 2015 #175
You have found me out and you must pay! hrmjustin May 2015 #176
The single silliest thing I've ever read on DU! zappaman May 2015 #177
Maybe the rapture will get us first. hrmjustin May 2015 #178
... William769 Nov 2015 #193
Bravo William. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #194
A new New Deal MannyGoldstein May 2015 #19
Disagree. F4lconF16 May 2015 #36
Unemployment halved and GDP grew 8%+ yearly MannyGoldstein May 2015 #69
Mmmm but the fundamental issues with the system were still there, no? F4lconF16 May 2015 #70
It's often not obvious whether any given change is going to be positive or negative Fumesucker May 2015 #12
My work? You mean how I make my living? MineralMan May 2015 #119
That's nice. F4lconF16 May 2015 #16
some folks are confusing bitterness and cynicism with anger nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #23
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Phlem May 2015 #32
Word. And when the pitchforks and torches come out, they'll say there must be a Barbecue Party! NYC_SKP May 2015 #71
What is your sauce on that? Do you have any links to back that up? Major Hogwash May 2015 #77
Freedom Fries! NYC_SKP May 2015 #156
They will hide, afraid to anger the Oligarch-Gods. They fear change and are afraid to fight rhett o rick May 2015 #151
I fear that they just don't know lines of bullshit when they hear them. NYC_SKP May 2015 #162
I think it's worse than not recognizing the bullcrap. They have attached themselves rhett o rick May 2015 #165
Your post brought me to tears. malokvale77 May 2015 #38
I am glad my words touched you. F4lconF16 May 2015 #49
You spoke for me. Thanks. 840high May 2015 #64
Yes…. MrMickeysMom May 2015 #68
+1000 I think you speak for many all around the world. nt. polly7 May 2015 #73
I couldn't agree more and well said. sufrommich May 2015 #17
Do not confuse "bitter" with those pushing for larger steps. jeff47 May 2015 #18
TPP isn't a incremental positive change. It is several orders of magnitude of "fuck the workers". whereisjustice May 2015 #21
+1 DJ13 May 2015 #181
"quest for perfection" Martin Eden May 2015 #24
Third Way Blase. woo me with science May 2015 #26
"Fellating....bleating" lol, yeah no bitterness there. HA bettyellen May 2015 #31
Americans have a right to be angry at the looting of our democracy by corporatists, woo me with science May 2015 #37
Politics has always been corrupted and favored the wealthy, bettyellen May 2015 #56
Some people can't let go. Phlem May 2015 #34
I would repeat what a lot of folks here nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #27
Beautifully said nadin (nt) malokvale77 May 2015 #41
Thank you for getting it. F4lconF16 May 2015 #50
You welcome nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #52
"We are quickly reaching the point of no return." Major Hogwash May 2015 #78
Go over to the Intergovernmental Committee nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #96
"The sky is falling, the sky is falling." Major Hogwash May 2015 #111
Thanks nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #112
Not one word. Major Hogwash May 2015 #114
You do realize that you are talking apples TTP, versus oranges, climate change nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #115
I'm glad you're amused. Major Hogwash May 2015 #132
I noticed you did not address the statement from the WH on Climate Change nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #139
Not my job. Major Hogwash May 2015 #140
We are talking about the President of the United States nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #142
Poster has been saying that for at least 10 years. zappaman May 2015 #146
Turn that frown upside down! Vote Bernie! think May 2015 #28
You've got a friend... Agschmid May 2015 #29
I want positive changes too JonLP24 May 2015 #33
Don't be depressed. F4lconF16 May 2015 #45
It is the world as the reason as why it depresses me JonLP24 May 2015 #51
Spreading awareness is activism! F4lconF16 May 2015 #55
it's facts that make me bitter (or mad) MisterP May 2015 #39
Vote for big change, be happy with incremental change Bonobo May 2015 #42
FIGHT for big change, and DO NOT ACCEPT incremental change. F4lconF16 May 2015 #48
Yes, but I hope you see my point. Bonobo May 2015 #53
Mmm... F4lconF16 May 2015 #58
Speaking about Baltimore nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #54
Hmmm... F4lconF16 May 2015 #59
Former medic, don't worry about it nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #60
I'm going to stand with the Buddhist saying: The journey of 10,000 miles starts with one step libdem4life May 2015 #43
Sometimes Leith May 2015 #44
We CAN change the world, though! F4lconF16 May 2015 #46
What's interesting is that I said what I would and wouldn't do. MineralMan May 2015 #89
I refuse to let bitterness make me cynical. nt Bonobo May 2015 #57
I *STRIVE* to let go Aerows May 2015 #61
Thanks, I needed that! mountain grammy May 2015 #62
Is that other OP about you? BainsBane May 2015 #63
Probably. Doesn't matter, though. MineralMan May 2015 #86
"I'm not bitter, I'm just consumed by a gnawing hate that's eating away at my gut... Comrade Grumpy May 2015 #65
I am cynical and bitter completely now, but will always fight for better. mmonk May 2015 #72
your optimism is a function of your privilege TheSarcastinator May 2015 #90
You are incorrect. nt MineralMan May 2015 #91
Good post. Cynicism is a powerful tool to prevent people from taking action to help themselves. greatlaurel May 2015 #92
Thank you for your thoughtful reply! MineralMan May 2015 #103
"illegitimati non carburundum" --very bad latin for "don't let the bastards grind you down" niyad May 2015 #100
And I recognize that incremental positive changes TBF May 2015 #104
I agree. Jamaal510 May 2015 #109
Being apathetic means leaving important things to others. MineralMan May 2015 #116
What prompted this? nt Logical May 2015 #121
Thinking, as usual. MineralMan May 2015 #122
LOL, ok, I will alert the media. nt Logical May 2015 #127
You take the east coast...NY Times, Wapo. zappaman May 2015 #148
I'm Happy For You... Must Be Nice... I Wonder What That's Like... WillyT May 2015 #124
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #128
It is revealing steve2470 May 2015 #144
Thanks man. I'd tattoo that on my forehead backwards mahina May 2015 #141
Centrist is *happy* with the status quo! Romulox May 2015 #147
Odd. That's not what I said at all. MineralMan May 2015 #152
It's essentially what every one of your posts say, blah blah blah notwithstanding. nt Romulox May 2015 #153
You are incorrect. MineralMan May 2015 #154
Spam deleted by MIR Team citrine bliss May 2015 #160
How about skepticism? It's not cynicism to not trust the uncontrolled NSA/CIA Black State. rhett o rick May 2015 #167
Skepticism is always a good idea. MineralMan May 2015 #168
I learned that a vote for Clinton is a vote for fascism! zappaman May 2015 #169
Uff da! MineralMan May 2015 #170
And I learned that those that support the status quo have no substantiative arguments. rhett o rick May 2015 #171
Ad Hominem??? zappaman May 2015 #172
Do you ever post anything but ad hominem attacks? Anything substantial? rhett o rick May 2015 #180
It's the signature of absurd lack of understanding... MrMickeysMom May 2015 #183
You keep having to be reminded of what common logical fallacies is... MrMickeysMom May 2015 #182
Thank you for that. You can say it better than I. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #184
Oh, Rick...don't sell yourself short. You were very clear. zappaman May 2015 #186
Your attempts to mock me are laughable. Keep trying. I guess for you rhett o rick May 2015 #189
LOL! zappaman May 2015 #185
Here's your argument in replacement of any logic... MrMickeysMom May 2015 #191
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