If Sanders and Warren were telling the truth, they'd argue FOR, not against, the TPA.

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228. And then it can still be voted down! Fast track doesn't equal approval. They can stop it.

Fast track means and up or down vote. Those who oppose the treaty can filibuster or galvanize public support against it. The Senate has already published a draft, and I've got the article with the link in my Journal. But I don't think that is what the firestorm is really about, period, so I won't argue this.

Those who want one intrepretation will ignore all of that. Either that, or they are too far gone in CT to grasp the process by which laws and treaties are made.

I'm not a teacher, it's simply not my personality type. It's why I respect teachers. I'd never be able to figure out all those kids. And it never paid enough. What has been done to the beleaguered education field of public schooling is a crime, abetted by the Koches, CTers, media and churches. I find the same forces at work online.

We cannot magically undo all trade deals from the beginning of time and it appears some are putting all their angst on this one item. Trade deals didn't automatically take manufacturing away, IMO.

Generational changes, children taking over family businesses big and small, get rich quick and live kings, is part of the problem. And the national debt for wars made agreements to be paid in kind. People that loan us money for wars don't do it for love.

I saw most of this evolving from the Vietnam war debt, with more since Iraq. The auto industry was destroyed not by itself, but in order to make a payment in kind to those who funded American war debt. Consider where American steel and auto jobs disappeared to. I don't fault the creditors. I fault the gullible, overreactive public, who took their cues about what was good and evil from media.

Same thing with China and all the malarkey since then. China gave the USA a LOT of money. That came from the hard work and the resources of their country. Bush and PNAC were determined to go to war, and the very prudent heads of the Chinese government saw an opportunity. Most people don't want our dollars. They want real estate, resources and capabilities to build their won nation.

A nation that gives up its bases of manufacturing and knowledge, it loses its civilization and create and all that it provides. Then they lose their minds, spending money on trinkets, navel gazing, snarling and biting each other, and then their sovereignty. This isn't just about THIS trade deal.

The problem is bigger. And it's us.

JMHO.