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JDPriestly

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23. In short, free trade and the TPP and TPIP are about making human beings and their
Mon May 11, 2015, 11:32 AM
May 2015

labor, creativity and lives into commodities to be bought and sold like so much lard or oil or potato chips. That's what it is really about.

It is immoral. It is cruel. It will draw all of us back into a dark age of anger and revenge and for most of us ever more difficult lives.

Today we are trying to fight against the Chinese industrial revolution. We are doing that by trying to find new slave laborers in even poorer countries to service our markets and destroy our workers' standard of living.

[b]Free trade is a form of economic cannibalism in which country by country we try to reduce the living standard, that is eat the fat from each other. That is not the way to build a working world economy.

If the TPP were based on moral considerations and did something other than further make human labor a commodity rather than the socially useful, wonderful effort and joy that it could be and should be, then we would be seeing it even if it is a work in progress. We would be reading it. But instead we are getting a huge propaganda campaign aimed to sell us on this horrible agreement so that when we read it we will have difficulty reading it for what it really is. This TPP must be very awful, worse than we can imagine if it has to be sold to us this hard.

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The carrot is the 'Hope' you'll be a billionaire someday. Octafish May 2015 #1
More of a carrot seed, than a carrot. Baitball Blogger May 2015 #4
More like an iron rod in the shape and color of a carrot meow2u3 May 2015 #9
no, it's a tiny animated gif of a carrot corkhead May 2015 #32
Perfect BrotherIvan May 2015 #43
Well that or you'll get a special level in heaven. TBF May 2015 #39
no offense, but it's about a HUGE amount more than that. cali May 2015 #2
And all as real as a cheap imported clothing..... daleanime May 2015 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Hoyt May 2015 #30
The job loss is probably the thing we can use TBF May 2015 #40
It's a racket that affects every class level. Baitball Blogger May 2015 #3
The excuse means that our skilled students won't work for peanuts. WinkyDink May 2015 #6
But that excuse won't pass muster with the H1B Visas will it? Baitball Blogger May 2015 #7
Yet your points are belied by the fact that foreign students flock here to study in our JDPriestly May 2015 #16
Definitely, money is to be had in the construction business. Baitball Blogger May 2015 #18
Thank you. I have also made this point, yet we are forcing school systems to spend millions whereisjustice May 2015 #58
Exactly. Why anyone thought that globalization was meant to raise the world's salaries and bene- WinkyDink May 2015 #5
The idea of "free" trade, globalization and laissez-faire economics fasttense May 2015 #10
For the bottom 75% incomes have risen dramatically in the last 25 years. That is a good thing. pampango May 2015 #26
Sady, the only voters with the power to address this Nevernose May 2015 #47
Remember-America's poor are the envy packman May 2015 #8
The goal is to force Americans to accept a MUCH lower standard of living through any means possible. Enthusiast May 2015 #12
While very wealthy people move the "profits" around and gamble on where they will be safe. JDPriestly May 2015 #17
President Obama has surrounded himself with people giving him bad advice. Enthusiast May 2015 #27
It's just another tool in the long running project hifiguy May 2015 #44
Well I don't like it. Enthusiast May 2015 #63
Vietnam where have I heard that before? gordianot May 2015 #13
They really are hanging us with the rope (jobs) we give them. whereisjustice May 2015 #56
Wow 1776 posts appropriate. gordianot May 2015 #57
I agree, but it ain't just the billionaires. raouldukelives May 2015 #14
But if you want to know how the economy is doing here at home, don't look at the stock JDPriestly May 2015 #19
It's about developing new markets and securing our future. Hoyt May 2015 #15
And the Brookings Institute has seen the agreement while congressional aides and the rest JDPriestly May 2015 #22
The Brookings Institute just another propaganda tool of the free-traders. Enthusiast May 2015 #29
See how much the poor or anyone else makes trading among ourselves or working for small companies. Hoyt May 2015 #31
So let the large companies produce the products they sell in the US in the US. JDPriestly May 2015 #33
Nope Detroit producing crummy, high priced, gas gussling cars destroyed Detroit. Hoyt May 2015 #35
You won't be able to buy anything if the US continues to allow jobs to be exported. JDPriestly May 2015 #36
Personally, I think we got a little ahead of ourselves on the standard of living thing. Hoyt May 2015 #37
That's your opinion. Based on the many years that I have watched free trade in our society, JDPriestly May 2015 #38
No, the trade deficit does not represent lost jobs. That's simplistic. Hoyt May 2015 #41
In short, free trade and the TPP and TPIP are about making human beings and their JDPriestly May 2015 #23
Actually that's what capitalism does BainsBane May 2015 #52
You work to get paid. JDPriestly May 2015 #53
Okay, that seems reasonable BainsBane May 2015 #54
I've always liked to work even when I was washing dishes at a pizza place. JDPriestly May 2015 #61
A strong work ethic is admirable BainsBane May 2015 #62
The dishwasher does not interact with people. JDPriestly May 2015 #65
the only people pimping this garbage are the ones who will benefit from it Skittles May 2015 #66
At last you understand the problem. sulphurdunn May 2015 #24
The governments, and people that vote for them, seem satisfied. Hoyt May 2015 #42
I vote for some of those who make decisions sulphurdunn May 2015 #46
Most of the people against it wouldn't read it if were right in front of them. Hoyt May 2015 #48
Most of the people who support it would read it? sulphurdunn May 2015 #49
TPP is an improved NAFTA, especially in the areas critics gripe about. Hoyt May 2015 #50
That's the problem. sulphurdunn May 2015 #67
If all that these posts can do is to show what's in these agreements before erronis May 2015 #20
+ a million! Thank you! And they can't wait for TPP in Vietnam... RiverLover May 2015 #21
The propaganda says we are against 'equal opportunities' for the people of third world sabrina 1 May 2015 #25
That is what Ross Perot said in the 1992 Presidential Debate with Bill Clinton: bvar22 May 2015 #34
As nutty as Perot could be about some things hifiguy May 2015 #45
Wow, he was so right! He answered my question and now we have the sabrina 1 May 2015 #60
isn't tpp much the same as open borders? DeadEyeDyck May 2015 #28
That could be, but those jobs are going there BainsBane May 2015 #51
It is more about no defenses left to protect natural resources or nature....at all. glinda May 2015 #55
It's all these things, the jobs go to Asia because if you go to urban area in China you will whereisjustice May 2015 #59
Everything I need to know about TPP, I learned from Elizabeth Warren Travelman May 2015 #64
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