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Zorra

(27,670 posts)
61. There's always been too much on the table when it comes to LGBT rights.
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:20 PM
May 2012

People said the same things to me/us before the election of 2008. STFU and wait until after the election. You'll get your rights for sure then, yessirrreee bob you will, you can take that to the bank!!!

We had a huge Democratic majority in the House and Senate, and a Democratic President. Our basic human rights should have been the main course on the table right then and there. Instead, Democrats did not act, and basically, any chance for equality was squandered, and then lost, after the GOP took the House in 2010.

And now, here I am, being told to sit down, STFU, and wait once again?

Lovely. Just lovely.

Same shit, different day.

And what's this all about?

"it looks extremely, I mean EXTREMELY suspect"


Suspect? Because I think it might be a good thing for Democrats to shun and boycott North Carolina, and send a huge symbolic message that there is absolutely zero fucking tolerance for institutionalized bigotry, hatred and inequality, I should be suspected of being a troll because I believe this?

That appears to be some really serious FUD bullshit directed at me and much of the LGBT community as well, and we will not be silenced in the face of threats or bullying..

Very insulting. So basically every LGBT poster at DU is now a suspected troll in your estimation, because we believe that we should have had our basic human rights yesterday, rights that you have had all your life, is that what you are trying to say? We need to STFU, and not question, nor advise, the Democratic Party, or risk another LGBT purge, is that it?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113711690

For pete's sake, patrice, please, get a grip, FGS.

Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. A right delayed is a right denied. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.

Even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream. I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: - 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.'

The hope of a secure and livable world lies with disciplined nonconformists who are dedicated to justice, peace and brotherhood.


(The preceding 3 paragraphs are completely comprised of combined direct quotes of MLK)


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Signed it, Facebooked and Tweeted. GoneOffShore May 2012 #1
As a gay man in North Carolina I ask that they please not move their convention. musicblind May 2012 #2
"it was basically the Republican primary" - AHHH, that didn't dawn on me before groundloop May 2012 #13
I initially voted yes, in principle, but your heart felt post changed my mind. joshcryer May 2012 #16
Don't count on it. GOM May 2012 #62
I also live in Houston and I do believe, and see, signs of change. ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #66
Interesting post. nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #73
I had to vote no in the poll above because ... Tx4obama May 2012 #3
No. treestar May 2012 #4
Agreed.... FarPoint May 2012 #10
since obama does not publicly support gay marriage it would make him look....lol nt msongs May 2012 #5
lol...lol nt Son of Gob May 2012 #69
Nope. Not necessary, probably counter-productive longship May 2012 #6
My thoughts as well. nt arthritisR_US May 2012 #20
That is a very good point to consider. truedelphi May 2012 #87
No. That would be dumb. MrSlayer May 2012 #7
They burnt their cross. boppers May 2012 #8
No quaker bill May 2012 #9
Lets reward the anti-union, anti-gay businesses/state with DNC money. Perhaps they can myrna minx May 2012 #11
+1 Scuba May 2012 #17
I agree...holding it there in the first place was a mistake... joeybee12 May 2012 #27
I can live with that. Robb May 2012 #46
should`t be there to begin with and now this... madrchsod May 2012 #12
I'm indifferent on this one quinnox May 2012 #14
No because the NC GOP would have another victory. mmonk May 2012 #15
+1000 maddezmom May 2012 #22
No. See post #2...nt SidDithers May 2012 #18
+1 mmonk May 2012 #32
Yes! We need to stand up to the bigotry and punish/shame the bigots in this country LonePirate May 2012 #19
No. Too late. scheming daemons May 2012 #21
wow, deadlocked at 49-49 quinnox May 2012 #23
No, this is a chance to set the Tarheels right. This is a chance to start a dialog. Bruce Wayne May 2012 #24
Do you have nay idea how long it takes to set up an event of this size? Freddie Stubbs May 2012 #25
Adaptability. It's the key to the long term survival of a species. nt Zorra May 2012 #34
I'm not sure that's feasible at this point. Renew Deal May 2012 #26
Pass: It never should have been there in the first place. Brickbat May 2012 #28
CHARLOTTE NC VOTED AGAINST FarLeftFist May 2012 #29
Not like the PTB give a crap ... 99Forever May 2012 #30
National Convention in NC Eliz1377 May 2012 #31
So sad. The results of this poll would be a whole lot different if Zorra May 2012 #33
Unfortunately, many AA churches led the way for this amendment. mmonk May 2012 #37
Understood. Still, human rights were at stake. Zorra May 2012 #41
I agree with you. mmonk May 2012 #42
Apparently they don't care about anybody else's civil rights but their own. Bake May 2012 #45
That's uncalled for. Seriously. nt DevonRex May 2012 #56
What's uncalled for is AA churches being callous to the civil rights of others. Bake May 2012 #59
No, it's not at-all. I'm all for shaming enemies of equality. Chan790 May 2012 #77
Please do NOT start a race war here on this issue. DevonRex May 2012 #55
MD's repeal might. n/t Chan790 May 2012 #78
yes. nt xchrom May 2012 #35
Wish it were never in NC but it would be a bad move to.. Little Star May 2012 #36
I voted YES. If Obama had ctaylors6 May 2012 #38
They need to be punished. AngryAmish May 2012 #39
this isn't going to punish the people who voted for the amendment. ibegurpard May 2012 #82
It was a mistake to have it there in the first place nt edhopper May 2012 #40
I voted 'Yes' but it's not going to do any good to move the convention... randome May 2012 #43
It never should have been chosen in the first place. earthside May 2012 #44
Didn't Billy Graham take out massive ads for the ammendment? julian09 May 2012 #51
I enthusiastically signed the petition, but I don't like your shit stirring poll. Pass. nt patrice May 2012 #47
Shit that doesn't get stirred when you flush Zorra May 2012 #49
What is shit and ain't shit is a little difficult to determine in this environment. BUT patrice May 2012 #50
There's always been too much on the table when it comes to LGBT rights. Zorra May 2012 #61
There's too much on the table to succeed by means of divide & conquer . . . AND patrice May 2012 #63
Single-issue Identity Politics = States' Rights. "Let's get ours, screw everyone who isn't us." patrice May 2012 #64
Rosa will never again move to the back of the bus. End of story. nt Zorra May 2012 #68
We are in agreement about that. These questions are about what the best way patrice May 2012 #70
History shows that forcing the issue is the most effective method of attaining Zorra May 2012 #71
That's an acceptable premise amongst free people. Free includes the right to choose what one is patrice May 2012 #72
I'm sorry. I don't believe I understand what you are saying. Zorra May 2012 #76
You deserve a round of applause. Chan790 May 2012 #79
The nobility of the people with MLK was that despite oppression they CHOSE the consequences upon patrice May 2012 #75
Pass: It is about 9 months too late to move the convention. But I will say this... stevenleser May 2012 #48
Will you also be speaking in support of an Executive Order banning job discrimination .... Better Believe It May 2012 #80
I haven't started to write down the specifics of the speech but I love what you just wrote. stevenleser May 2012 #83
I'm pleased you liked my suggestion. Here's a few more I hope you find are as helpful. Better Believe It May 2012 #85
More good stuff. Thanks again! stevenleser May 2012 #86
Pulling out at this late date would be cowardly and very expensive slackmaster May 2012 #52
If you are denied the persuit of happiness and fairness, stay out of that state. julian09 May 2012 #53
I certainly don't agree with every restriction on freedom that my state legislature has imposed slackmaster May 2012 #60
Get out of contract on grounds not safe for delegates or some delegates will kiranon May 2012 #54
Should outlaw tobacco and legalize MMJ julian09 May 2012 #58
This reminds me of Howard Dean's 50 state strategy and his Confederate flags comment RZM May 2012 #57
IMO, moving it would be letting them win. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #65
exactly! marions ghost May 2012 #67
I never thought it should be there marlakay May 2012 #74
Gee, look at all the gay DUers saying they should move the convention... UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #81
No way. That would look like Dems are afraid to confront those in NC that are bigots. Jennicut May 2012 #84
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