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ismnotwasm

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59. A percentage of the workforce are undocumentated

Mon May 11, 2015, 04:26 PM

May 2015

Of these, many are Latino. They are used and exploited and underpaid--yet believe enough in America to work here, to have children here. The countries they come from are controlled by drug cartels, corrupt governments, have horrible human rights records. They are a diaspora.

Outside of almost any Home Depot, you can find them lining up, hopeful for work. A sea of brown faces being picked up by a mostly white hirer, often in expensive work trucks.

Is your solution to deport all undocumented? All? Root out the sweat shops here in America, the trafficking of souls for sex and labour? Or just the ones outside of Home Depot?

And families? Send them back? All? No matter how long they've been here or what they've accomplished?

How do you propose to do that?

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K&R..... daleanime May 2015 #1

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Not all citizens are conservative white guys. Hope that helps! nt geek tragedy May 2015 #16

Illegal immigrants aren't, by definition, citizens. The needs and wants and citizens are supposed Romulox May 2015 #17

1. 17% of CITIZENS are Latinos. 2. not all working class white men are xenopobic a-holes nt geek tragedy May 2015 #19

Latino doesn't mean "illegal immigrant". I'm not sure what your point is. nt Romulox May 2015 #38

Have you seen polling on immigration amongst Latinos? geek tragedy May 2015 #39

There's no reason why polls of a specific subset should be controlling. Romulox May 2015 #40

A percentage of the workforce are undocumentated ismnotwasm May 2015 #59

Latino citizens are not illegal aliens. lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #43

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And now it's about guys. Focus, dude. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #47

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Latinos can't vote? nt geek tragedy May 2015 #42

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Because the former have many family members in the latter category. geek tragedy May 2015 #48

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