Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

hack89

(39,171 posts)
27. The Greeks don't need to raise taxes
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:24 PM
May 2012

they just need to collect the money due to them.


According to a remarkable presentation that a member of Greece’s central bank gave last fall, the gap between what Greek taxpayers owed last year and what they paid was about a third of total tax revenue, roughly the size of the country’s budget deficit. The “shadow economy”—business that’s legal but off the books—is larger in Greece than in almost any other European country, accounting for an estimated 27.5 per cent of its G.D.P. (In the United States, by contrast, that number is closer to nine per cent.) And the culture of evasion has negative consequences beyond the current crisis. It means that the revenue burden falls too heavily on honest taxpayers. It makes the system unduly regressive, since the rich cheat more. And it’s wasteful: it forces the government to spend extra money on collection (relative to G.D.P., Greece spends four times as much collecting income taxes as the U.S. does), even as evaders are devoting plenty of time and energy to hiding their income.


Read more http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2011/07/11/110711ta_talk_surowiecki#ixzz1uPEt42My
Son't forget Argentina and Iceland malaise May 2012 #1
Or South America, which has rejected the Global Corps for the past decade. sabrina 1 May 2012 #8
Venezuela, Ecuador, Paraguay, Uruguay, Peru, Bolivia, Brazil, Nicaragua, El Salvador... DutchLiberal May 2012 #10
Absolutely. There are plenty of examples of the failures of austerity. If they (the corporations) jwirr May 2012 #30
Iceland accepted IMF austerity measures in order to borrow billions. nt hack89 May 2012 #28
emulate france = have a candidate left of current management, which we do not nt msongs May 2012 #2
I don't think we should raise taxes significantly right now. girl gone mad May 2012 #3
Did you forget the sarcasm emoticon? You can't be serious, right? Lionessa May 2012 #4
Unfortunately, history doesn't back up your claim jeff47 May 2012 #11
Unfortunately, this presumption is not accurate in our present framework. girl gone mad May 2012 #12
Again, history does not agree with you. jeff47 May 2012 #14
Tax increases destroy dollars. girl gone mad May 2012 #15
That is a truly stunning amount of wrong to put into a single post. jeff47 May 2012 #16
"Money flows into that account via taxes and bond sales" girl gone mad May 2012 #17
Still wrong jeff47 May 2012 #19
Your post is totally off base. girl gone mad May 2012 #20
No, you only like to think it is jeff47 May 2012 #21
How has MMT been proven wrong by this current crisis? girl gone mad May 2012 #25
And now we shift again. jeff47 May 2012 #31
Winning the election while making promises of a great life is easy. Producing those results is hard. dkf May 2012 #5
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #6
When there is a referendum on whether the economy is in place to serve the citizens (or vice versa), Snarkoleptic May 2012 #7
Greeks gave 8% of the vote to neo-nazi party; for first time in 4 decades they'll be in parliament.. DutchLiberal May 2012 #9
The Greeks will be going back on the drachma with a 50% cut in the standard of living. FarCenter May 2012 #22
And the neo-nazi's are going to change that... how? DutchLiberal May 2012 #23
After a period of chaos, they will get a dictatorship of either the right or the left FarCenter May 2012 #24
Yes, hurrah for communist of fascist dictatorship! DutchLiberal May 2012 #26
France's citizens seem to have gotten it right. DevonRex May 2012 #13
Britain is a better morality play. bluestate10 May 2012 #18
The Greeks don't need to raise taxes hack89 May 2012 #27
Greeks spent several centuries avoiding taxes imposed by the Turks. FarCenter May 2012 #29
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»So France bounces Sarkozy...»Reply #27