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51. Perhaps you've forgotten just how bad things were in September

Mon May 11, 2015, 11:52 PM

May 2015

2008.

The Republicans wanted to make it worse.

Much, much, much worse. So much so they still haven't forgiven Bernanke for not cooperating with them.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/krugman/2015/04/03/john-galt-hates-ben-bernanke/?referrer=

They wanted a Mellon-esque liquidation:

Mellon became unpopular with the onset of the Great Depression. Herbert Hoover, in memoirs published decades later, wrote that Mellon advised him as President to "liquidate labor, liquidate stocks, liquidate farmers, liquidate real estate... it will purge the rottenness out of the system. High costs of living and high living will come down. People will work harder, live a more moral life. Values will be adjusted, and enterprising people will pick up from less competent people."

Also, no ACA which has saved thousands of lives, a decimated clean energy industry, and a war with Iran.

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I Feel Like I Was Punched In The Gut By Obama. [View all] Unknown Beatle May 2015 OP

No, you need a different perspective. malthaussen May 2015 #1

Are you better off now than you would've been under McCain/Palin & Romney/Ryan admin? NightWatcher May 2015 #2

Such a low standard we have 'he's better than the other guy'. Well, we don't need sabrina 1 May 2015 #7

Low bar? This is how its been since the beginning of our republic. JaneyVee May 2015 #10

There's more to it than that. Octafish May 2015 #15

No, it hasn't actually. sabrina 1 May 2015 #47

I'd pose the question differently: malthaussen May 2015 #13

Perhaps you've forgotten just how bad things were in September geek tragedy May 2015 #51

For decades we've been exhorted to vote "better than the alternative" no matter it leads LiberalElite May 2015 #27

That's a bit simplistic Trajan May 2015 #32

Oy vey. TransitJohn May 2015 #53

So my choice is the two legged horse over the one legged Exilednight May 2015 #70

We can never demand better because it can always be worse. Gotcha. RedCappedBandit May 2015 #79

We were had, and royally hifiguy May 2015 #3

But cold comfort is better than none at all. malthaussen May 2015 #11

Agreed, though with court-approved Repuke gerrymandering hifiguy May 2015 #12

Reminds me of an old joke. malthaussen May 2015 #14

Even without Congress you can avoid nominating hacks for critical positions, avoid wars of choice, TheKentuckian May 2015 #44

I wouldn't know, I never saw School House Rock. n/t malthaussen May 2015 #76

Excellent points. hifiguy May 2015 #82

Which is why we have to also focus on the Senate and Congress. The good thing about sabrina 1 May 2015 #48

Is it really? sendero May 2015 #71

+10000000 woo me with science May 2015 #81

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Now some see why 11th dimensional chess was so necessary GummyBearz May 2015 #43

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Suppose you took Bernie Sanders and put him in Obama's spot in 2009. FSogol May 2015 #6

I think the Democrats would control Congress. Marr May 2015 #25

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What do Communist have to do with it? There has not been an angry far left since the 30's /nt Dragonfli May 2015 #34

I seriously doubt that. Marr May 2015 #39

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Wow. What a fantasy. nt Hekate May 2015 #63

Well argued. Marr May 2015 #64

I'd certainly hope so. nt Duppers May 2015 #65

We? Speak for yourself. JaneyVee May 2015 #8

So you're saying you saw through his deception Unknown Beatle May 2015 #17

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He gives pretty speeches - or used to. He fooled me too. CharlotteVale May 2015 #18

The Geithner appointment let the cat out of the bag. hifiguy May 2015 #23

not me Skittles May 2015 #68

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Depends on what's actually in it. n/t Adrahil May 2015 #40

Isn't that the point Nite Owl May 2015 #55

Consider who you're comparing him to. LOL! immoderate May 2015 #56

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Well, this is a "growing up" opportunity for you AZ Progressive May 2015 #24

He is a master salesman. Jamastiene May 2015 #26

Not only that, but the dehydrated man will say it was the best water of his lifetime Dragonfli May 2015 #35

yes they do indeed Skittles May 2015 #69

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Like expecting Candidate Obama to resemble President Obama RiverLover May 2015 #36

He campaigned as a centrist.. DCBob May 2015 #38

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wow. I am going to bookmark this. so many lies in one speech. Doctor_J May 2015 #46

Thanks RiverLover! n/t whatchamacallit May 2015 #57

+1 Marr May 2015 #62

Bookmarking here too. Duppers May 2015 #72

Yes that's a great speech. DCBob May 2015 #73

I was bopped on the head Loony Toones style Eleanore Roosevelt nt arely staircase May 2015 #37

I suspect he thinks TPP amounts to renegotiating NAFTA BainsBane May 2015 #41

Same people who have been whining about everything he does geek tragedy May 2015 #49

Its not just that, but the betrayal with the bailout, foreclosure help, transparency, lobbyists.. AZ Progressive May 2015 #50

Zzzz. Same litany of whines. geek tragedy May 2015 #52

So we should be satisfied with the consolation prize? AZ Progressive May 2015 #67

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Obama pretended to be a leader when he was not AZ Progressive May 2015 #66

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Zzz. As far as the TPP goes: geek tragedy May 2015 #60

I'm very disappointed that.. mvd May 2015 #58

Best president in my 67 years -- by far. nt Hekate May 2015 #61

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