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Dawgs

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9. So, all of those Democratic congresspeople are fueled by pure speculation and not facts?

Tue May 12, 2015, 07:55 AM

May 2015

Oh, and also the labor unions, environmentalists, economists, etc. They are basing their opinions on speculation?

I guess it's just you, Obama, a small number of Democrats and almost all Republicans that are smart enough to know what this is really about.

Sure.

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Who is "freaking out" over the TPP? Hint, it ain't just DUers [View all] cali May 2015 OP

Krugman isn't freaking out BeyondGeography May 2015 #1

C'mon, that's cherry picking. cali May 2015 #2

Looks like damning with feign praise to me swilton May 2015 #12

The point is that Krugman is not so vehemently opposed, or at all, as implied by the OP. Fred Sanders May 2015 #20

lame. first of all, fred, do you understand what it means that I used quotation marks? cali May 2015 #24

I'd like another burger JimDandy May 2015 #76

a skittles asskicking post Jesus Malverde May 2015 #79

Apparently the only thing that TPP supporters can come up with is "Krugman isn't rhett o rick May 2015 #65

Damning with feigned praise-- Jackpine Radical May 2015 #23

How about "damning with feint praise"? scarletwoman May 2015 #75

Praising with faint damns? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #80

Like, using your indoor voice? scarletwoman May 2015 #82

Maybe you could dam up the praise until you faint. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #83

Praising with a faint dame? scarletwoman May 2015 #84

This is one of those that could go on to attain new levels Jackpine Radical May 2015 #85

I don't see the problem. scarletwoman May 2015 #86

Why do I let these things happen? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #87

It's not your fault. scarletwoman May 2015 #88

So you found a connection, huh? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #95

Dear Dog I hope you are being sarcastic. Good one. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #66

Exaggerating the strength of your allies is as disingenuous and dangerous as underestimating your enemies. Fred Sanders May 2015 #17

stop making stuff up- for once. I didn't say anything about their strength or lack cali May 2015 #21

Did you trust Republicans in the 1980's? bananas May 2015 #29

It's my understanding that that poster is a Brit cali May 2015 #30

I trust Democratic Party leader and twice elected President Obama - I have verified and I trust. Fred Sanders May 2015 #38

so what? you still aren't a stakeholder in the way a U.S. citizen is. cali May 2015 #44

Verified really? tennstar May 2015 #70

Want to buy a bridge? lark May 2015 #59

Do you have a quote of those "assurances"? Or does it really matter? nm rhett o rick May 2015 #67

Funny how your comment sounds just like the favorite right wing talking point salib May 2015 #73

Well, the last time we adjusted our so called trade policy to suit a "free" trade agreement fasttense May 2015 #33

Thanks for making my point BeyondGeography May 2015 #35

History is and should be part of the equation in figuring out cali May 2015 #36

TPP is not NAFT or WTA, as Obama says, this agreement is unprecedented for worker and climate Fred Sanders May 2015 #74

You're right MFrohike May 2015 #78

I haven't heard about druidity33 May 2015 #81

Blame FDR and Truman. If FDR had not 'liberalized' trade away from the limited pampango May 2015 #39

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast May 2015 #3

How is Krugman "opposed"? Environmental Protections in TPP: Fred Sanders May 2015 #16

Propaganda from our- not yours, of course- governement cali May 2015 #18

That sounds like corporate power will crush any attempt to protect the environment. Enthusiast May 2015 #53

"I’m thumbs down." and "...he basically supported an idealized TPP that could have been, but came Chathamization May 2015 #97

K&R..... daleanime May 2015 #4

Stop the TPP!! AzDar May 2015 #5

K & R x 1,000,000 Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #6

Stampeding on fasle speculation Evar May 2015 #7

So, all of those Democratic congresspeople are fueled by pure speculation and not facts? Dawgs May 2015 #9

Well, you left out the driving factor behind all the 2nd group lark May 2015 #61

Written out of pure lack of knowledge and information. cali May 2015 #10

"The president... is not about to sell us out" is a faith-based assertion HereSince1628 May 2015 #11

You misunderstand Rilgin May 2015 #47

Crazy is not doing your homework. Like this post. jeff47 May 2015 #50

Nice try. Maedhros May 2015 #51

Fine. Release the text of the doc for crowd sourced inspection then......... socialist_n_TN May 2015 #62

OMG. WTF? Phlem May 2015 #63

* L0oniX May 2015 #64

It's not NAFTA, it is MUCH worse. And just because we don't want to send millions of jobs to whereisjustice May 2015 #77

K&R CharlotteVale May 2015 #8

Great post swilton May 2015 #13

Misleading: Environmental groups are against fast track authority...your link says nothing of the sort that Fred Sanders May 2015 #14

They are against Trade Promotion Authority because it kills the TPP cali May 2015 #15

Clickbait. stonecutter357 May 2015 #19

in other words, facts you don't want to deal with. cali May 2015 #22

I await your next/first post with any substance LondonReign2 May 2015 #28

And I Too Await! n/t ChiciB1 May 2015 #54

you think you deserve substance ? stonecutter357 May 2015 #94

I'm certain you are not incapable of substance LondonReign2 May 2015 #96

"don't pretend that the support for the TPP isn't corporate, right wing and republican, and the pampango May 2015 #25

but why do the teathuglicans oppose it? I suspect largely cali May 2015 #27

ODS certainly plays a role but they have opposed international organizations and treaties, pampango May 2015 #31

sure, but why give them any credibility when their opposition is pure nativism? cali May 2015 #32

I do not feel that recognizing their opposition is giving them 'credibility'. The "nativism" that pampango May 2015 #37

I agree with you. If forging a coalition of progressive Democrats and Tea Party Republicans is totodeinhere May 2015 #43

Yes dreamnightwind May 2015 #90

I'm sure your analysis of their reason for opposing it is accurate. But be that as it may totodeinhere May 2015 #42

We will have the same type of Corporatist INdemo May 2015 #26

That pisses off many here dreamnightwind May 2015 #91

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT May 2015 #34

A lot of folks on the right hate it too. nt B2G May 2015 #40

Yeah, but support in congress, corporations and orgs like the Chamber are cali May 2015 #45

Congress doesn't always do what their constituents want B2G May 2015 #46

Not only that but there is substantial bipartisan opposition to TPP. totodeinhere May 2015 #41

....! KoKo May 2015 #48

Here's a right wing site that is against the TPP chknltl May 2015 #49

so? what's your point? cali May 2015 #60

Easy the opposition is not just on the left nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #68

Well three things actually chknltl May 2015 #93

Off topic, sort of. Cleita May 2015 #52

Cleita, I look forward to your post on this and hope you'll x-post it here in GD cali May 2015 #71

"You want to trust President Obama?" Martin Eden May 2015 #55

Amazingly, every Democratic Senator voted against Fast Track, Except Carper n2doc May 2015 #56

If this is anything like the 90s Nafta I am not sure we asjr May 2015 #57

Well said, Cali! Stevepol May 2015 #58

K&R glinda May 2015 #69

K&R And despite what the polls say, I can't find anyone in NE Wisconsin who ... Scuba May 2015 #72

You are all missing a huge aspect of this . . FairWinds May 2015 #89

I wouldn't set foot in there, but I wonder what the freepers are saying. Binkie The Clown May 2015 #92