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In reply to the discussion: Who is "freaking out" over the TPP? Hint, it ain't just DUers [View all]cali
(114,904 posts)I don't admire anyone who doesn't do their due diligence. Sorry, there is a substantial amount of information- both historical and current for anyone to delve into who is willing to do the research.
And for someone who is chastising others about speculation, your post is more than a little ironic. YOU speculate madly throughout your post: You refer to environmental protections- how the fuck do YOU know? And sorry, but a late draft of the Environment Chapter was leaked, so the Environmental Groups that analyzed it and released and leaked process documents, are not merely speculating as you are.
We already have trade agreements with the majority of the tpp nations. We trade extensively with ALL of them. Tariffs are already low. This has jackshit to do with isolationism- which none of the opposition is advocating. That is a fib. As for China, it already has an fta in that region, including Malaysia and Vietnam and more importantly, the Philippines and Indonesia as well as several other nations. Nothing about the TPP excludes or prevents China from exerting their power within their geographical sphere of influence.
Fast track doesn't refer to speed and it governs more than just its dictate that the vote be straight up or down- much, much more.
I'm so tired of trying to discuss this with you trustifarians- people whose support for this is rooted SOLELY on their trust for President Obama.
And He could release it right now in almost finished draft form or release those parts of the text that are complete- before the vote on the tpa. It's too late after its been passed. I'm not going to explain why to you. I've had it up to my eyeballs with people who haven't bothered to actually do the research.