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RiverLover

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25. He said the S Korean trade deal would create US jobs, but it's caused loss of 75000,
Tue May 12, 2015, 08:03 AM
May 2015

& a trade deficit now with S Korea of $12 billion.

And this~"In the end, this could lower the wages of Americans, perhaps raise slightly the wages of Third World countries, until they meet somewhere at the lower end of the scale."

Globalizing peasant wages for all blue collars.

This sums up the "globalization" argument nicely~

...The United States has had over two decades of experience with these trade deals, and it has racked up an unprecedented $11 trillion in trade deficits this century alone. Since 2000, 63,000 factories have been shuttered and millions of good jobs lost. Under Obama, we’ve run trade deficits of about 3 percent of GDP a year. That’s the equivalent of Americans sending $500 billion abroad each year. It is virtually impossible to run a full-employment economy with rising wages if we’re facing that hole every year. Corporations not only ship good jobs abroad, they use globalization to threaten workers, helping to drive down wages and contributing directly to America’s sinking middle class and extreme inequality.

The president charges his opponents with wanting to lock out the world: “The idea that we can shut down globalization, reduce trade … is wrong-headed. That horse has left the barn.”

But the president’s foes aren’t arguing against globalization or trade; they are arguing that the rules that govern our trade and investment strategies have been rigged by global companies and banks to benefit themselves, not American workers
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A progressive’s lament about the Trans-Pacific Partnership



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I thought Warren was privy to this? leftofcool May 2015 #1
She has read it. They've made it classified, she can't give details about what's in it. RiverLover May 2015 #2
Yep. No notes, no details, no nothing. hifiguy May 2015 #45
Only after years of growing and massive public outrage over the fact that Congress, sabrina 1 May 2015 #29
Thank you Senator Warren and Representative DeLauro cali May 2015 #3
I don't get being pro-tpp, not for the average citizen. RiverLover May 2015 #5
I think I do. They may find it too technical and confusing and they may just cali May 2015 #6
I trust Obama, you never have. tridim May 2015 #14
I use to trust Obama. But no. I do not just "trust him" any more. I like much of what he does think May 2015 #17
False. I trusted him for a couple of years and I was a big early supporter cali May 2015 #20
I completely agree that you couldn't care less about Obama. tridim May 2015 #35
I'm sorry that you don't grasp some very, very basic things: cali May 2015 #37
My BS detector went off before he was inaugurated. hifiguy May 2015 #46
I'm with Cali on this .. Trajan May 2015 #31
Your post is bogus. bvar22 May 2015 #41
You trust Obama blindly. cui bono May 2015 #49
Glad to see DeLauro taking an active role here. bigwillq May 2015 #4
If Obama were truly serious Nite Owl May 2015 #7
That is so true. RiverLover May 2015 #8
He didn't even say "liberal" Republican Art_from_Ark May 2015 #11
You're right Nite Owl May 2015 #34
We were had, and royally hifiguy May 2015 #47
And the negotiations would have been an open process. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #16
"He once said he is like the old liberal Republican ..." Eisenhower was a liberal by our standards. pampango May 2015 #18
Eisenhower intervened into Lebanon and what became the Bay of Pigs started under his Presidency happyslug May 2015 #38
Nope. bvar22 May 2015 #42
K&R..... daleanime May 2015 #9
That's ALL we need to know. Duppers May 2015 #10
The current USTR TPP frontman got $4 million dollars in bonuses from Citigroup when he left think May 2015 #12
This is who is in charge. Wall Street. Thanks for the reminder of Froman the front man RiverLover May 2015 #22
The former USTR TPP frontman is now part of a law firm that lobbies on behalf of US Chamber & GE think May 2015 #13
Its one big scam with so many players. I'd never heard of Ron Kirk. Thanks for info, think!! /nt RiverLover May 2015 #23
TY as well for this thread! Ron Kirk's Wikipedia bio for those wanting further information: think May 2015 #30
And the goal of this provision is that after losing, which is guaranteed when you have sabrina 1 May 2015 #15
He said the S Korean trade deal would create US jobs, but it's caused loss of 75000, RiverLover May 2015 #25
The corporations with their secret tribunals will bankrupt countries involved in the TPP. So much Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #19
Yep, Monsanto & Walmart & Verizon & Shell & Goldman & Google & Pfizer & all those others who are RiverLover May 2015 #26
They will sit on each other's boards, bvar22 May 2015 #43
K&R CharlotteVale May 2015 #21
Thanks Charlotte! /nt RiverLover May 2015 #27
''A rigged process leads to a rigged outcome.'' Octafish May 2015 #24
It shows how difficult it is to fight these multi-national corporations. kentuck May 2015 #28
Who is writing the TPP? wise men, smarter than us citizens. kind and benevolent, with only the best KG May 2015 #32
Why would any Democrat support a trade agreement written by large corporations in secret, and jalan48 May 2015 #33
That's what I ask. RiverLover May 2015 #36
If they need funds from the DCCC or DSCC for the next election, bvar22 May 2015 #44
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT May 2015 #39
This is creepy. ananda May 2015 #40
kick! glinda May 2015 #48
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