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74. That is a very poor excuse. The artist referred to Manning as Bradley in interviews the last few

Tue May 12, 2015, 09:05 AM

May 2015

days. The artist is obviously very impressed with what Manning did.

But at the same time the artist is too bigoted to accept her for who she is.

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Bronze Statues of Edward Snowden, Julian Assange and Bradley Manning unveiled in Berlin--Powerful! [View all] KoKo May 2015 OP

Proud to be first to Rec. Thank you, Dormino and KoKo! Octafish May 2015 #1

Did he not get the memo about Ms. Manning? Brickbat May 2015 #2

It was Bradley Manning that blew the whistle. zeemike May 2015 #27

Well this should go over well with the DU authoritarian brigade riderinthestorm May 2015 #3

yup In_The_Wind May 2015 #4

See post #16 for authoritarian assholery on display. Comrade Grumpy May 2015 #19

Right on cue LittleBlue May 2015 #37

I have no opinion on the statues other than joy morningfog May 2015 #51

"History never had a positive opinion of contemporary revolutionaries... polichick May 2015 #5

"courage to act"? Then why didn't Snowden "act" before he left the US? Courage my butt! George II May 2015 #54

They broke secrets as matters of principle. Hoppy May 2015 #62

Saw this story on RT. What is remarkable is the difference between the sabrina 1 May 2015 #6

it's still a semi-free country, just don't litter on public property snooper2 May 2015 #11

No, just the Snowden statue that defaced another monument was removed jmowreader May 2015 #48

We are such a frightened society. Scared of everything, even a statue. sabrina 1 May 2015 #66

I noticed you referred to RT. You know that's Russian and can't be trusted. Those are probably rhett o rick May 2015 #49

Lol, RT has that 'liberal bias' so I can understand why some our more conservative friends sabrina 1 May 2015 #65

You are too kind. I would call it hypocracy. Claiming to be "politically liberal" and then rhett o rick May 2015 #69

Yes, you are right about the hypocrisy. I laugh when I see the anti RT posts, it is sabrina 1 May 2015 #70

And those who put the statue up were quickly identified and fined. nt tblue37 May 2015 #68

Some day our government, after we evolve from where we are now, and when we abide by sabrina 1 May 2015 #71

Wow BrotherIvan May 2015 #7

Ikr? The powerful symbolism of that empty chair to be filled by... anyone riderinthestorm May 2015 #9

It really is BrotherIvan May 2015 #10

+10000000 woo me with science May 2015 #97

Americans will think the 4th chair is Obama and Clint Eastwood Generic Other May 2015 #56

lol's....they will have to go to Berlin, though. KoKo May 2015 #60

DURec.... except that I wish those statues were in Wash. DC. bvar22 May 2015 #8

Can't have those guys in the public eye d_legendary1 May 2015 #28

Love Berlin -on the cutting edge socially, politically & culturally, as ever. Divernan May 2015 #12

I enjoyed Berlin yeoman6987 May 2015 #29

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT May 2015 #13

"Bradley" Manning and "three men who defied the system?" nt geek tragedy May 2015 #14

if RT is involved in this i don't think they recognize Chelsea JI7 May 2015 #18

this is wsws.org, I think. geek tragedy May 2015 #20

It would be interesting to look into who funded the sculptures. stevenleser May 2015 #25

I doubt it yeoman6987 May 2015 #32

That person has made it clear she is a woman and wants to be addressed that way. stevenleser May 2015 #35

Do you think it might have been made prior to Chelsea announcing she would like to yeoman6987 May 2015 #38

No. It has been a long time since she made that announcement. The artist is still referring to her stevenleser May 2015 #39

Crazy, huh. At the time, Ms Manning publicly identified as male. During her pre-trial incarceration Luminous Animal May 2015 #40

"Either the funder or the artist are likely homophobes." bvar22 May 2015 #41

Good point. Even if it's to needle the US, there is no letup on Russia's anti-gay bigotry. stevenleser May 2015 #21

Because of course you are such a huge fan of her. BeanMusical May 2015 #30

I always refer to her as Chelsea. I cant stand what she did. I do not support bigotry to achieve stevenleser May 2015 #34

Bigotry have been used to achieve political ends? BeanMusical May 2015 #44

No, it's actually very telling that you assume folks would use or accept bigotry against stevenleser May 2015 #73

Ms Manning identified as a man at the time and even rejected her supporters from Luminous Animal May 2015 #64

That is a very poor excuse. The artist referred to Manning as Bradley in interviews the last few stevenleser May 2015 #74

And you couldn't be more wrong. But hey, making stuff up seems to be the sabrina 1 May 2015 #67

there seems to be more effort into getting statues than trying to change laws JI7 May 2015 #15

At least I'll know where to place any pigeon seed I might buy when I make it to Berlin. stevenleser May 2015 #16

Um...that's a seagull Demeter May 2015 #23

Yes, I know. nt stevenleser May 2015 #24

Disgusting. BeanMusical May 2015 #46

The poster appears on Fox News so you hit the bullseye BrotherIvan May 2015 #57

So does Greenwald. So does Bernie Sanders, Kucinich, etc. Your ad-hominem doesn't work. stevenleser May 2015 #76

You're calling the artist who made this sculpture a homophobe BrotherIvan May 2015 #90

Denying someone their gender identity makes you a homophobe. His own words are evidence. nt stevenleser May 2015 #91

You are catching on one point to try to "win" your argument BrotherIvan May 2015 #92

The point of this subthread is that the artist is a homophobe. So yes, my arguments are tailored stevenleser May 2015 #93

LOL, and let me guess, you have accused Obama supporters for being cult-like in the past right? stevenleser May 2015 #75

Lol! You're projecting, dear. BeanMusical May 2015 #79

Apparently not. Your reaction to this milquetoast criticism says it all. nt stevenleser May 2015 #80

Awww, so much anger. BeanMusical May 2015 #83

Nope, not anger. I am laughing. stevenleser May 2015 #84

Good. BeanMusical May 2015 #86

Who's the boy getting pooped on? Is this from some cemetery? Not funny, in any case. nt. polly7 May 2015 #95

Who is the kid in your picture GummyBearz May 2015 #50

Awww, you're so anti-authoritarian you are angry at those who dissent against the hero narrative stevenleser May 2015 #77

You sound angry. BeanMusical May 2015 #81

Nope, I'm laughing at the reaction to the pigeon feed comments by folks who take this too seriously stevenleser May 2015 #82

Of course you don't. BeanMusical May 2015 #85

Steve, I remember when you posed for that sculpture. FrankUnderwood Jun 2015 #98

Bravo! Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #17

Participatory Art, Participatory Politics, Publicly Speaking Truth to Power Demeter May 2015 #22

enthusiastic kick navarth May 2015 #26

"The statues are part of an art project entitled 'Anything to Say?'� KansDem May 2015 #31

Does the "anything" being said include Court Testimony? brooklynite May 2015 #45

Proudly salutes, kicks and recommends. Fantastic Anarchist May 2015 #33

UNREC brooklynite May 2015 #36

and one accused of rape OKNancy May 2015 #42

Has anyone asked you to genuflect? bvar22 May 2015 #43

You're being more polite than I could. BeanMusical May 2015 #47

Come out and say that you disparage all whistle-blowers because they challenge authority. rhett o rick Jun 2015 #99

Powerful was not eh word I was thinking,,,,,,, Cryptoad May 2015 #52

Such overkill! treestar May 2015 #53

I love watching authoritarians foam at the mouth in the morning! Rex May 2015 #55

Me too. The sad part, though, is that there are any of them here. BillZBubb May 2015 #87

They should be melted and used for bathroom fixtures Renew Deal May 2015 #58

Who, the authoritarians or the statues? hueymahl May 2015 #89

Love it malaise May 2015 #59

well, that ought to make some heads explode. niyad May 2015 #61

Big k/r 840high May 2015 #63

Absolutely fantastic! colorado_ufo May 2015 #72

All these statues and busts are creeping into 'Maoist' territory Blue_Tires May 2015 #78

What an absurd comment. BillZBubb May 2015 #88

I don't know how else to describe cultish hero worship Blue_Tires May 2015 #94

kick woo me with science May 2015 #96