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Fred Sanders

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14. Misleading: Environmental groups are against fast track authority...your link says nothing of the sort that
Tue May 12, 2015, 08:07 AM
May 2015

you say these groups do...why so misleading?

Any other authority other than the one link?

From your link:

"Once these agreements are finalized, a process known as “fast track” is used to push the agreement through. Fast track asks Congress to forgo the usual process of careful deliberation, and vote within 90 days of Congress and the public first seeing the agreement. Congress also agrees in advance not to amend or filibuster the agreement. This sets up a rushed situation, in which massive corporate PR campaigns can pressure Congress to pass the agreement, and not “kill the whole thing” over problems that they might find. The public does not have time to digest the implications of the agreement and rally opposition, if warranted.

The letter from the environmental groups explains:

“Fast track was originally designed in the 1970s, when trade agreements focused on traditional trade issues such as cutting tariffs and lifting quotas. Today’s trade agreements, however, are about much more than tariffs and quotas and have significant implications for our environment, public health, and global climate.”

Full letter:

http://action.sierraclub.org/site/DocServer/Fast_Track_Enviro_Letter_to_114th_Congress.pdf?docID=17141

Environmental Protections in TPP

https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/blog/2014/January/The-US-and-Environmental-Protections-in-the-TPP

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Krugman isn't freaking out BeyondGeography May 2015 #1
C'mon, that's cherry picking. cali May 2015 #2
Looks like damning with feign praise to me swilton May 2015 #12
The point is that Krugman is not so vehemently opposed, or at all, as implied by the OP. Fred Sanders May 2015 #20
lame. first of all, fred, do you understand what it means that I used quotation marks? cali May 2015 #24
I'd like another burger JimDandy May 2015 #76
a skittles asskicking post Jesus Malverde May 2015 #79
Apparently the only thing that TPP supporters can come up with is "Krugman isn't rhett o rick May 2015 #65
Damning with feigned praise-- Jackpine Radical May 2015 #23
How about "damning with feint praise"? scarletwoman May 2015 #75
Praising with faint damns? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #80
Like, using your indoor voice? scarletwoman May 2015 #82
Maybe you could dam up the praise until you faint. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #83
Praising with a faint dame? scarletwoman May 2015 #84
This is one of those that could go on to attain new levels Jackpine Radical May 2015 #85
I don't see the problem. scarletwoman May 2015 #86
Why do I let these things happen? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #87
It's not your fault. scarletwoman May 2015 #88
So you found a connection, huh? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #95
Dear Dog I hope you are being sarcastic. Good one. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #66
Exaggerating the strength of your allies is as disingenuous and dangerous as underestimating your enemies. Fred Sanders May 2015 #17
stop making stuff up- for once. I didn't say anything about their strength or lack cali May 2015 #21
Did you trust Republicans in the 1980's? bananas May 2015 #29
It's my understanding that that poster is a Brit cali May 2015 #30
I trust Democratic Party leader and twice elected President Obama - I have verified and I trust. Fred Sanders May 2015 #38
so what? you still aren't a stakeholder in the way a U.S. citizen is. cali May 2015 #44
Verified really? tennstar May 2015 #70
Want to buy a bridge? lark May 2015 #59
Do you have a quote of those "assurances"? Or does it really matter? nm rhett o rick May 2015 #67
Funny how your comment sounds just like the favorite right wing talking point salib May 2015 #73
Well, the last time we adjusted our so called trade policy to suit a "free" trade agreement fasttense May 2015 #33
Thanks for making my point BeyondGeography May 2015 #35
History is and should be part of the equation in figuring out cali May 2015 #36
TPP is not NAFT or WTA, as Obama says, this agreement is unprecedented for worker and climate Fred Sanders May 2015 #74
You're right MFrohike May 2015 #78
I haven't heard about druidity33 May 2015 #81
Blame FDR and Truman. If FDR had not 'liberalized' trade away from the limited pampango May 2015 #39
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast May 2015 #3
How is Krugman "opposed"? Environmental Protections in TPP: Fred Sanders May 2015 #16
Propaganda from our- not yours, of course- governement cali May 2015 #18
That sounds like corporate power will crush any attempt to protect the environment. Enthusiast May 2015 #53
"I’m thumbs down." and "...he basically supported an idealized TPP that could have been, but came Chathamization May 2015 #97
K&R..... daleanime May 2015 #4
Stop the TPP!! AzDar May 2015 #5
K & R x 1,000,000 Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #6
Stampeding on fasle speculation Evar May 2015 #7
So, all of those Democratic congresspeople are fueled by pure speculation and not facts? Dawgs May 2015 #9
Well, you left out the driving factor behind all the 2nd group lark May 2015 #61
Written out of pure lack of knowledge and information. cali May 2015 #10
"The president... is not about to sell us out" is a faith-based assertion HereSince1628 May 2015 #11
You misunderstand Rilgin May 2015 #47
Crazy is not doing your homework. Like this post. jeff47 May 2015 #50
Nice try. Maedhros May 2015 #51
Fine. Release the text of the doc for crowd sourced inspection then......... socialist_n_TN May 2015 #62
OMG. WTF? Phlem May 2015 #63
* L0oniX May 2015 #64
It's not NAFTA, it is MUCH worse. And just because we don't want to send millions of jobs to whereisjustice May 2015 #77
K&R CharlotteVale May 2015 #8
Great post swilton May 2015 #13
Misleading: Environmental groups are against fast track authority...your link says nothing of the sort that Fred Sanders May 2015 #14
They are against Trade Promotion Authority because it kills the TPP cali May 2015 #15
Clickbait. stonecutter357 May 2015 #19
in other words, facts you don't want to deal with. cali May 2015 #22
I await your next/first post with any substance LondonReign2 May 2015 #28
And I Too Await! n/t ChiciB1 May 2015 #54
you think you deserve substance ? stonecutter357 May 2015 #94
I'm certain you are not incapable of substance LondonReign2 May 2015 #96
"don't pretend that the support for the TPP isn't corporate, right wing and republican, and the pampango May 2015 #25
but why do the teathuglicans oppose it? I suspect largely cali May 2015 #27
ODS certainly plays a role but they have opposed international organizations and treaties, pampango May 2015 #31
sure, but why give them any credibility when their opposition is pure nativism? cali May 2015 #32
I do not feel that recognizing their opposition is giving them 'credibility'. The "nativism" that pampango May 2015 #37
I agree with you. If forging a coalition of progressive Democrats and Tea Party Republicans is totodeinhere May 2015 #43
Yes dreamnightwind May 2015 #90
I'm sure your analysis of their reason for opposing it is accurate. But be that as it may totodeinhere May 2015 #42
We will have the same type of Corporatist INdemo May 2015 #26
That pisses off many here dreamnightwind May 2015 #91
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT May 2015 #34
A lot of folks on the right hate it too. nt B2G May 2015 #40
Yeah, but support in congress, corporations and orgs like the Chamber are cali May 2015 #45
Congress doesn't always do what their constituents want B2G May 2015 #46
Not only that but there is substantial bipartisan opposition to TPP. totodeinhere May 2015 #41
....! KoKo May 2015 #48
Here's a right wing site that is against the TPP chknltl May 2015 #49
so? what's your point? cali May 2015 #60
Easy the opposition is not just on the left nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #68
Well three things actually chknltl May 2015 #93
Off topic, sort of. Cleita May 2015 #52
Cleita, I look forward to your post on this and hope you'll x-post it here in GD cali May 2015 #71
"You want to trust President Obama?" Martin Eden May 2015 #55
Amazingly, every Democratic Senator voted against Fast Track, Except Carper n2doc May 2015 #56
If this is anything like the 90s Nafta I am not sure we asjr May 2015 #57
Well said, Cali! Stevepol May 2015 #58
K&R glinda May 2015 #69
K&R And despite what the polls say, I can't find anyone in NE Wisconsin who ... Scuba May 2015 #72
You are all missing a huge aspect of this . . FairWinds May 2015 #89
I wouldn't set foot in there, but I wonder what the freepers are saying. Binkie The Clown May 2015 #92
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