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CoffeeCat

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8. Yes, and I remember when Obama addressed Progressives...

Tue May 12, 2015, 10:06 AM

May 2015

…during his speech about the healthcare bill. We were told that "We weren't going to get everything that we wanted" and basically that was that.

The reality is--The insurance companies wrote the bill. They knew healthcare reform was coming and they figured--Ok, American assholes, you want reform? Ok, we'll give you reform. On our terms.

I really don't blame Obama. He did what he could within our corporate-controlled government. He laid the groundwork for further reform and Obamacare has helped millions. However, it is not enough and those psychopathic health-insurance companies are still at the epicenter of our healthcare system--deciding who lives and who dies and who receives care and who is denied--based on the profit motive. We will never truly have healthcare reform until those heartless, greed mongering wolves are out of the healthcare system.

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I just unsubscribed from all OFA emails [View all] corkhead May 2015 OP

TPA might pass. Single payer would not have. Renew Deal May 2015 #1

Tapas? Yum. Pass the tapas. cali May 2015 #2

Damned auto-correct! Renew Deal May 2015 #9

Lol I know. I hate auto correct. cali May 2015 #11

A computer hot shot just disabled mine! Yeah! My airs are better! Eleanors38 May 2015 #83

It wasn't "on the table" No effort was made to bring pressure to bear by going to the people corkhead May 2015 #3

There was a lot of pressure for a "public option" and they couldn't get that done Renew Deal May 2015 #10

They were never committed to a Public Option. It was only a bargaining point to them. Ford_Prefect May 2015 #22

That was the beginning of disenchantment with "Change" erronis May 2015 #31

That opportunity depended on a public stand for single-payer, one which would rally... Eleanors38 May 2015 #84

You say they only want to stay on the top of the heap Renew Deal May 2015 #39

That seems to have been mostly the result of screwing up the recovery Chathamization May 2015 #42

And they walked tazkcmo May 2015 #46

That is not at all the case Renew Deal May 2015 #118

He was never going to win the teabagger vote. For the average person, the weak economy was Chathamization May 2015 #119

And 2014, and 2014. George II May 2015 #52

This assumes people are talking about the Democratic party when they use the word "they?" n/t betterdemsonly May 2015 #116

there was a small window in which to pass the ACA... we can at least amend and tweak it, and secondwind May 2015 #55

there was a small window in which to pass the ACA... we can at least amend and tweak it, and secondwind May 2015 #57

Lots of pressure? tennstar May 2015 #40

Now you've seen it Renew Deal May 2015 #41

Lol tennstar May 2015 #43

You're welcome Renew Deal May 2015 #44

Obama found the effort to hold secret meetings with big pharma.... raindaddy May 2015 #21

We were outraged when Cheney met the energy companies in closed-door sessions Lydia Leftcoast May 2015 #24

Turning point for me too Lydia.. raindaddy May 2015 #48

Obama never said he'd support single payer. That has been fact checked. He said he liked the idea okaawhatever May 2015 #23

No, it's actually the same story. A PO would have passed if the effort that is going into sabrina 1 May 2015 #63

If you are trying to make a pont, I think you failed. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #94

Which part do you dispute? Renew Deal May 2015 #103

Let me guess your point. Pres Obama didn't fight for single payer because it wouldn't pass. rhett o rick May 2015 #105

I think both are true Renew Deal May 2015 #106

So you've become aware of what neoliberal actually think of you. 99Forever May 2015 #4

He fought his ass off for the ACA. NCTraveler May 2015 #5

Not hard enough eloydude May 2015 #6

Fuck Lieberman and his ilk NCTraveler May 2015 #7

No he didn't MFrohike May 2015 #86

I think it's better to fight the good fight and lose than to roll over and let the assholes rhett o rick May 2015 #95

Yes, and I remember when Obama addressed Progressives... CoffeeCat May 2015 #8

Sorry, I have to disagree. Damansarajaya May 2015 #15

He didn't go to the mat for the public option because studies showed only 2 million people okaawhatever May 2015 #27

Only because it was being built to be a fraud, just a dumping ground for the cartel to nudge TheKentuckian May 2015 #85

Also, single payer was in a first term and he needed to think about his second erronis May 2015 #34

Obama never campaigned on single payer. he said he liked single payer but with the system we okaawhatever May 2015 #87

Single payer is not the same as a public option, which he endorsed. Damansarajaya May 2015 #90

I unsubscribed when he signed ObamaCare without Damansarajaya May 2015 #12

Or it's clear that he preferred effective governing than chasing purity ponies geek tragedy May 2015 #14

I can "stand him" just fine. I think he's the best Damansarajaya May 2015 #17

The reason GLBT rights have made so much progress is because the GLBT activists geek tragedy May 2015 #20

The public option did get approved in the house, just not the Senate When it went to reconciliation okaawhatever May 2015 #28

I'll never forget, or forgive, Lieberman threatening to filibuster the ACA geek tragedy May 2015 #49

Yeah, there was a lot of pressure in the end to kil it. Many congresspeople started taking the okaawhatever May 2015 #53

It amazes me that some people are dumb enough to think that LIEberman, DINO Ben, geek tragedy May 2015 #58

The planet where he tries, like he tries to fast-track TPP? Damansarajaya May 2015 #92

He did that for the ACA itself. geek tragedy May 2015 #93

No mandates. Under my plan there would be no mandates. Damansarajaya May 2015 #102

His no mandates campaign rhetoric was irresponsible demagoguing. geek tragedy May 2015 #104

Thanks for agreeing with my point--he can't be trusted on what he says. Damansarajaya May 2015 #109

He is a politician. nt geek tragedy May 2015 #110

If Blanch was so awful why did he go to bat for her against Halter betterdemsonly May 2015 #117

Looks like they didn't count the votes very well on fast tracking TPP. Damansarajaya May 2015 #88

Mitch McConnell was a lot more upset than Obama seemed to be. geek tragedy May 2015 #91

Nailed it... SidDithers May 2015 #18

The rest of the modern world has universal healthcare. So please spare me the pony show think May 2015 #64

they also don't have our Congress. and they didn't have to transition from an entirely geek tragedy May 2015 #65

I am so sick of this arguement. Mojorabbit May 2015 #81

Right? truebrit71 May 2015 #13

Show me the path to single payer. JaneyVee May 2015 #16

They can't ... it never existed ... but the whining about it will never end. JoePhilly May 2015 #101

I unsubscribed a long time ago. But suddenly I ended up getting CharlotteVale May 2015 #19

I unsubscribed when emails began sound more and more like collection notices. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #25

Or spam: "Obama wants to have dinner with you! Will you join him?" Chathamization May 2015 #45

My dad still receives them, and the sheer amount of "Share Your Story" emails was outrageous. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #56

-1 Buzz Clik May 2015 #26

your kick / substantive response is duly noted corkhead May 2015 #32

Why should I care about your emails? What's next -- coupon collecting? Stories of annoying neighbors Buzz Clik May 2015 #35

I raise your smilies by one corkhead May 2015 #37

So did I just recently fredamae May 2015 #29

I don't often use strong language, but the idea that a public option wouldn't have passed is Lydia Leftcoast May 2015 #30

Funny, he is doing the Reagan thing for TPP but didn't even try for single payer or public option corkhead May 2015 #36

He did that work for the ACA as a whole. The public option is not as important geek tragedy May 2015 #51

The public option would only have provided some much-needed competition for Big Insurance Lydia Leftcoast May 2015 #68

I know how the public option was supposed to work. geek tragedy May 2015 #71

By twisting the arms of the Blue Dogs Lydia Leftcoast May 2015 #73

You're still depending on the fallacy that Congress is not a co-equal branch geek tragedy May 2015 #74

So here's the deal: "Vote for a public option, and you get to keep your air force base." Lydia Leftcoast May 2015 #75

You are still subscribing to the view that Congress is the door mat of the president, geek tragedy May 2015 #78

But he successfully persuaded the Progressive Caucus Lydia Leftcoast May 2015 #79

Closed-door meetings is how politics gets done. geek tragedy May 2015 #80

Well, what else would you expect Art_from_Ark May 2015 #99

Great post. Hate to put Reagan above Obama in any matchup but you've done it. erronis May 2015 #38

No, what is a 'stinking pile of bullshit' is the fantasy where all that matters is the president geek tragedy May 2015 #50

Funny thing--it worked for Reagan's tax cuts when he had a Democratic Congress Lydia Leftcoast May 2015 #69

More magical thinking. geek tragedy May 2015 #70

My claim is not magical thinking Lydia Leftcoast May 2015 #72

Your claims are outright inaccurate and false. geek tragedy May 2015 #76

Reading comprehension Lydia Leftcoast May 2015 #107

Sanders: single payer never had a chance geek tragedy May 2015 #108

You've changed the subject. I'm talking about a public option Lydia Leftcoast May 2015 #112

You imagine Nebraska to be a hotbed of progressivism? geek tragedy May 2015 #113

Nebraska has a lot of old people on Medicare Lydia Leftcoast May 2015 #114

You are so Nite Owl May 2015 #67

So Sanders was lying when he said it wouldn't have passed? (nt) jeff47 May 2015 #77

We'll never know ibegurpard May 2015 #89

of course it is Skittles May 2015 #98

"The answer--he was a corporatist all along." L0oniX May 2015 #115

Single Payer would be equivalent to breaking up of the too-big-to-fail insurance libdem4life May 2015 #33

You know the President doesn't pass legislation, right? geek tragedy May 2015 #54

I ignore condescension and snark and "words in mouth" snap judgments. Save it for libdem4life May 2015 #59

You're the one explicitly arguing that Obama lets his own personal greed geek tragedy May 2015 #61

Your ignorant post says everything about you and nothing about President Obama. Cha May 2015 #97

I did that years ago. bigwillq May 2015 #47

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This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy May 2015 #62

If the public option had passed JEB May 2015 #66

me too. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #82

We all wake up to the truth at our own pace. woo me with science May 2015 #96

It's the "fall in line" thing that really pisses me off. NaturalHigh May 2015 #100

The only reason I am thinking of resubing nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #111