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hack89

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1. Lets look at what the women actually told the police as seen in Assange's arrest warrant

Tue May 12, 2015, 12:10 PM

May 2015

This is what Assange is accused of.

1. Unlawful coercion

On 13-14 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [AA] in Stockholm. Assange, by using violence. forced the injured party to endure his restricting her freedom of movement. The violence consisted in a firm hold of the injured party's arms and a forceful spreading of her legs whilst lying on top of her and with his body weight preventing her from moving or shifting.

2. Sexual molestation

On 13-14 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [AA] in Stockholm, Assange deliberately molested the injured party by acting in a manner designed to violate her sexual integrity. Assange, who was aware that it was the expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a condom be used, consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her without her knowledge.

3. Sexual molestation

On 18 August 2010 or on any of the days before or after that date, in the home of the injured party [AA] in Stockholm, Assange deliberately molested the injured party by acting in a manner designed to violate her sexual integrity i.e. lying next to her and pressing his naked, erect penis to her body.

4. Rape

On 17 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [SW] in Enkoping, Assange deliberately consummated sexual intercourse with her by improperly exploiting that she, due to sleep. was in a helpless state.

It is an aggravating circumstance that Assange. who was aware that it was the expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a condom be used. still consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her. The sexual act was designed to violate the injured party's sexual integrity."

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2011/2849.html

Until the women specifically retract their statements (which they haven't - they still want their day in court) I am going to believe the victims.

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Facts vs. Fiction: Assange Never Raped Anyone [View all] laserhaas May 2015 OP

Lets look at what the women actually told the police as seen in Assange's arrest warrant hack89 May 2015 #1

The women's statements are bogus in your hateful campaign warrant laserhaas May 2015 #2

So the events detailed in the warrant never happened? hack89 May 2015 #3

simple question. are these girls, or women? thru out your OP you say girls. there is a difference seabeyond May 2015 #4

Um no mythology May 2015 #5

And having sex with an unconscious person is rape. n/t tammywammy May 2015 #7

and holding her arms down, as she tries to reach for a condom, as he is finishing up. what a man. nt seabeyond May 2015 #22

Yep tammywammy May 2015 #43

You are missing the most important fact of all: none of this is relevant to Wikileaks, Maedhros May 2015 #6

Eggzaklee! Scuba May 2015 #9

Oh contraire - Wikileaks is toast if Julian is made a ghost laserhaas May 2015 #18

"girls/ ladies/ women" really? now that you are aware, your need is to "girls/ ladies/ women" this? seabeyond May 2015 #20

You missed "etc." gollygee May 2015 #23

ya. just a fuckin "ect..." cause the BOY is all that. nt seabeyond May 2015 #26

Viola? REP May 2015 #91

HEY... your thingy has as much to do with this thread laserhaas May 2015 #95

Just imagining anyone seriously proclaiming "Viola!" REP May 2015 #96

If Assange gets arrested, Wikileaks gets shutdown. NuclearDem May 2015 #8

+1 nt. NCTraveler May 2015 #11

Wow, what a pantload...nt SidDithers May 2015 #10

Viola! REP May 2015 #92

You're legal positions in general are not, they're not... good stevenleser May 2015 #12

I'll wait for the trial, but despise those who smear the alleged victims or try geek tragedy May 2015 #13

There you go- putting words in my mouth. laserhaas May 2015 #14

The comment was not directed at you, or anyone in particular nt geek tragedy May 2015 #16

It seems to me (and probably everyone else) that it was directed at this thread laserhaas May 2015 #19

This OP is insulting enough without referrring to grown women sufrommich May 2015 #15

repeatedly. constantly. consistently. when did the OP call assange a boy? nt seabeyond May 2015 #17

I don't get how anyone confuses girls with women. sufrommich May 2015 #21

no confusion as in awareness he now uses "girls/ ladies/ women" then next sentence uses girl seabeyond May 2015 #24

wow - the whole world has gone hate bonkers laserhaas May 2015 #29

and here comes the excuses. seabeyond May 2015 #30

Nobody thinks referring to women as women is implying that sufrommich May 2015 #31

BULL C H I T.... laserhaas May 2015 #34

Nobody has ever said that calling a woman a woman means you're saying she's old gollygee May 2015 #36

now, you really let us know what you think. ya. we figured. and lookie. we were right. seabeyond May 2015 #37

None of that has anything to do with correctly sufrommich May 2015 #38

Well, that was revealing. NuclearDem May 2015 #42

Yep. tammywammy May 2015 #45

And now the truth is revealed...nt SidDithers May 2015 #48

It's quite possible that your priority of maintaining the pretense that you're winning... LanternWaste May 2015 #57

Fine LaternWaste (an apropos name for this thread - btw) - laserhaas May 2015 #62

"It is illegal to be a nice/respecting guy" Cali_Democrat May 2015 #64

Oh no. A Nice Guy� REP May 2015 #93

Picky is as picky does. laserhaas May 2015 #25

you mean, there was actually the consideration it might be a child? and you are just now getting seabeyond May 2015 #27

You "just learned their actual age"? Did you think the women were children before now? tammywammy May 2015 #41

Being a POS in putting words in another's mouth, because your argument fails laserhaas May 2015 #50

I asked a question, I didn't put words in your mouth. tammywammy May 2015 #56

No one ever said they were under 18 - and I did NOT mean to disparage laserhaas May 2015 #69

You should stick with your Romney shtick. n/t tammywammy May 2015 #70

You should just leave me threads alone laserhaas May 2015 #72

If you don't like my posts, the DU Admins have provided an ignore feature. tammywammy May 2015 #78

Used as a phrase of laserhaas May 2015 #71

... tammywammy May 2015 #74

It's so strange how people who make the establishment uncomfortable are all so evil and creepy... Marr May 2015 #28

Fret not, they'll all have more of same, when Romney gets heated laserhaas May 2015 #32

so, if we actually want the police to do their job, investigating rape, we are haters? seabeyond May 2015 #35

This is all B.S. and you know it. FACT the prosecutor CLOSED the case. laserhaas May 2015 #46

"and you know it." i disagree. that makes me a hater? no one allowed to disagree with you? seabeyond May 2015 #51

He's not weaseling out of any charge. laserhaas May 2015 #75

yes. he is. he hides in another country, in another embassy, to avoid court. yes. he is. seabeyond May 2015 #76

I don't think diaries on Assange ever change any minds at this point. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #33

I wonder how many here, would bare up under scrutiny for their sexual times laserhaas May 2015 #39

but hold to "girls" at all cost as you repeatedly say you are being picked on. lordy.... seabeyond May 2015 #40

For you to condemn, on the use of the word girls laserhaas May 2015 #49

Calling women "girls" is demeaning. tammywammy May 2015 #52

what is your insistence on infantile'ing these women? seabeyond May 2015 #54

No one is insisting on anything - you and your mob are trying to bait laserhaas May 2015 #58

da doors!!! ya. i hear ya. seabeyond May 2015 #61

..... tammywammy May 2015 #63

dafuq NuclearDem May 2015 #47

Didn't you know, if you challenge the state-sponsored narrative in this case, backscatter712 May 2015 #44

Watch out - they'll burn me at the stake laserhaas May 2015 #53

Other - I have no idea. NaturalHigh May 2015 #55

It could be convenient and still true gollygee May 2015 #59

It could definitely be true. NaturalHigh May 2015 #65

You both make valid points. It is glaring this came when Wikileaks LEAKED laserhaas May 2015 #66

Or coincidental tammywammy May 2015 #68

I agree that's a possibility. NaturalHigh May 2015 #87

Assange left Sweden the day before his scheduled interview with the prosecutor hack89 May 2015 #60

Well, at least you got one rec. Dr. Strange May 2015 #67

Ha ha - I rec'd it myself (always promote via the 4 options) laserhaas May 2015 #77

as rape victims know all TOO well. seabeyond May 2015 #79

The rec confirmed my vote!!!!! lol. nt. NCTraveler May 2015 #73

"Girls"??? ismnotwasm May 2015 #80

Yeah, but calling women "women" means you're calling them old or something. tammywammy May 2015 #82

Bahhahahahahaha!!! ismnotwasm May 2015 #88

Illegal to be a nice guy. Codeine May 2015 #89

Yeah tammywammy May 2015 #94

The POLL is telltale (as usual) of a divided DU realm laserhaas May 2015 #81

Or you know, it's a bullshit unscientific poll. tammywammy May 2015 #83

cause it is so progressive to run from rape charges. seabeyond May 2015 #84

Whatever you say. NuclearDem May 2015 #85

Or maybe it's just shit. Codeine May 2015 #90

I have no idea if he raped anybody. Beacool May 2015 #86

Kick... SidDithers May 2015 #97

ya seabeyond May 2015 #98