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TheKentuckian

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27. How does any of that matter when the votes aren't there to change the outcome?

Tue May 12, 2015, 08:22 PM

May 2015

Passing fast track for all practical purposes just allows us to be spectators to a slow motion car wreck.

The only possibility after that is fucking absurd as it depends on a significant amount of TeaPubliKlans to step up to protect American workers and the environment WHILE holding even the most hardline neolib Democrats or losing them and finding even more TeaPubliKlans looking out for Americans (like there are any).

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The loss on TPP could be really bad long term [View all] AngryAmish May 2015 OP

I don't trust Obama or Hillary on anything. bigwillq May 2015 #1

^^^ THIS ^^^ cantbeserious May 2015 #20

+10000000 woo me with science May 2015 #35

+ a zillion 840high May 2015 #41

Peak oil will make global trade a moot point. Binkie The Clown May 2015 #2

Agree. When we are destroying out planet to get out the last drop of oil it is a good sign that the jwirr May 2015 #8

Got news for you, buddy: 99Forever May 2015 #3

I agree he was right but he was a nutter. AngryAmish May 2015 #4

What the fuck does his daughters wedding have to do with ANYTHING relevant to my world? 99Forever May 2015 #10

I did . Without that " nutter " George H Bush Sr would orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #12

That Texas "nutter was right and Al Gore so wrong that its laughable. Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #5

"That giant sucking sound" is indelibly lodged in my progressive friends' vocabularies. Eleanors38 May 2015 #11

Oh bullshit. I'm so sick of hearing all the lies about NAFTA. I know you don't want to learn the okaawhatever May 2015 #38

Really hurt how? There isn't a damn thing in there to increase wages, environmental protections, TheKentuckian May 2015 #6

huh? This isn't over. It's just beginning. cali May 2015 #7

+1. /nt RiverLover May 2015 #15

Their " Secrecy " isn't baffling it's become " Business as usual " orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #9

The secrecy is what killed it, IMO Warpy May 2015 #13

It's not over, the vote is just delayed RiverLover May 2015 #16

I know, they'll keep on plugging away until they get it Warpy May 2015 #40

Correct me if I err. Fred Sanders May 2015 #14

It can't be amended or debated, Hence " Fast Track " giving authority, as They did in orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #17

I do believe that is mainly correct, but the actual TPP, being a revenue bill, still has to be passed by regular process. Fred Sanders May 2015 #18

WOW! Thank You orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #24

No the purpose of fast track is to not allow RiverLover May 2015 #19

But as the TPP is a " revenue bill" it still has to be opened up and debated in the Seante....there Fred Sanders May 2015 #21

hey, river. that's actually only one feature of the TPA cali May 2015 #31

Fail as usual. aargh. that is irrelevant, fred, old boy. I've explained this to you cali May 2015 #22

lulz Jesus Malverde May 2015 #34

I believe you are correct. savalez May 2015 #26

How does any of that matter when the votes aren't there to change the outcome? TheKentuckian May 2015 #27

The secrecy ends when Congress is asked to approve Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #30

Trusting politicians is for chumps. bemildred May 2015 #23

I cannot accept that my President fadedrose May 2015 #25

Yep. GoCubsGo May 2015 #29

I toyed with the idea he really wanted to sabotage it. bemildred May 2015 #33

What is going on is there is confusion about the difference between following blindly and following open-eyed. Fred Sanders May 2015 #37

Democrats filibuster ed Fast Track authority for the President the TPP.. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #28

Today the TPA or Trade Promotion Authority, commonly called 'Fast Track' was rejected by the Bluenorthwest May 2015 #32

"I would trust Hillary and Obama to do the right thing" - Why? NRaleighLiberal May 2015 #36

Why indeed. +1 840high May 2015 #42

Now it can be debated. It will all be in the open WhiteTara May 2015 #39