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Binkie The Clown

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38. That makes sense, but...

Reply to PosterChild (Reply #29)

Tue May 12, 2015, 10:45 PM

May 2015

after NAFTA I really don't trust that politicians EVER have our best interests at heart.

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Insider view on the "secret" TPP [View all] PosterChild May 2015 OP

He's someone who stands to benefit from it. cali May 2015 #1

Excellent article, more proof it's not just big corporations privy to what's going on. Hoyt May 2015 #2

....l. cali May 2015 #3

Yeah, me and every country that has signed a trade agreement and hopes to attract businesses to Hoyt May 2015 #5

The WTO Trade Dispute Resolution Body is state-on-state. The TPP formalizes customary int'l law leveymg May 2015 #8

Governments can sue businesses in their own courts, as has been the case for hundreds of years. Hoyt May 2015 #9

No ability to counter-sue in the same forum is a definite liability in litigation leveymg May 2015 #12

You posted as if countries have no recourse if a company violates their laws. That is not true. Hoyt May 2015 #14

The defendant state has no recourse to countersue in the same forum, under the draft TPP leveymg May 2015 #15

They don't need it, they can haul them into their own courts, which presumably will be Hoyt May 2015 #16

Obama and the USTR are committed to the TPP which will benefit US-based MNCs leveymg May 2015 #17

And when other countries sign, they all are saying the small risk under ISDS is worth it to Hoyt May 2015 #18

Different states have different constituencies. The cost/benefits of this treaty vary. The threat leveymg May 2015 #21

Yeesh MFrohike May 2015 #40

Philip Morris has gotten nowhere in Australia. Australian packaging laws are still in effect. Hoyt May 2015 #42

Again, you make no sense MFrohike May 2015 #43

I disagree, and fact Australia is ready to sign another agreement with similar tribunals indicates Hoyt May 2015 #44

Heh MFrohike May 2015 #45

Thanks for the post! PosterChild May 2015 #24

You missed this quote when you went cherry picking... Jesus Malverde May 2015 #4

And - it looks like the TPP has more corporate protections than it does actual trade agreements. djean111 May 2015 #6

Like the "confidential briefings" congress received to convince them to invade Iraq bananas May 2015 #7

The "insider" also said �I�m not going to lie to you. I don�t know what the hell is in the TPP, and RiverLover May 2015 #10

LOL...well I guess there is THAT. n/t Oilwellian May 2015 #22

Of course not... PosterChild May 2015 #25

Thanks for that quote. Makes a big difference. madfloridian May 2015 #32

Obama went to Oregon to push Congress on trade agreements LWolf May 2015 #11

Inside what? He knows jack apple shit. TheKentuckian May 2015 #13

He is.. PosterChild May 2015 #26

Per him, he doesn't shit. Direct quote follows. TheKentuckian May 2015 #36

Funny-- I remember reading articles exactly like this one when NAFTA was being pushed. Marr May 2015 #19

The propaganda machine is up and running n/t Oilwellian May 2015 #23

K & R nt okaawhatever May 2015 #20

Cool story, bro. 99Forever May 2015 #27

And TRUE too! How cool is that? /nt/ PosterChild May 2015 #30

Of course it is 99Forever May 2015 #31

Without a doubt and... PosterChild May 2015 #33

Or honesty. 99Forever May 2015 #34

Honestly speaking... PosterChild May 2015 #35

"This is really going to help you." "What's really going to help me." Binkie The Clown May 2015 #28

The artcle provides some insight into this... PosterChild May 2015 #29

That makes sense, but... Binkie The Clown May 2015 #38

What a maroon. GeorgeGist May 2015 #37

Who? you? Cha May 2015 #41

About as credible as Saddam and the incubator babies n/t brentspeak May 2015 #39