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nikto

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71. You are painfully, agonizingly correct

Wed May 13, 2015, 01:04 AM

May 2015

I support Obama on Iran, Cuba, social issues, and a bunch of other stuff.
Those are good.

But his support of TPP is awful, just awful.
It is awful because TPP is awful, and Obama is a bright person who knows its awful.
But he pushes it anyway.

Obama is very much a mixed-bag as a President, and not a Progressive on many huge issues.
On many issues he seems like an obedient product of The University Of Chicago and Milton Friedman.
Privatized Public Schools/"Race-To-The-Top"? Drone killings? NSA spying? "Banks Too Big To Fail (or JAIL)?
These are part of what I think of as Obama's "bad" side.
All in all, my feelings about him are, "complex".

I am not some mindless "Obama-basher", but just someone who is earnestly Progressive on many issues,.
especially economic ones. And it is on the key economic and financial issues where I disagree with him most strongly.
The "TPP" side of Obama is not the side of him I like or admire.
Sorry, but that side of Obama is just way way too Reagan for me.
Y' know what I'm talkin' about?

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Disrespect of Obama hits new low [View all] sheshe2 May 2015 OP

Good thing nobody HERE would be disrespectful..... brooklynite May 2015 #1

Lol~ sheshe2 May 2015 #2

I am sure disagreeing with Obama is an issue with you! nt Logical May 2015 #4

Are you making a point? sheshe2 May 2015 #5

Then the Iranian Ayatollahs trolled them AgingAmerican May 2015 #63

LOL Iliyah May 2015 #8

Yup~ sheshe2 May 2015 #9

my disagreements are over policy. His race makes him roguevalley May 2015 #62

Ha ha ha! MADem May 2015 #78

Yea sure! leftofcool May 2015 #101

... To any President. Oktober May 2015 #108

K & R nt okaawhatever May 2015 #3

It's disgusting and hurts the party. Potential right wing Supreme Court Justices stock is on uprise Hoyt May 2015 #6

K&R and bookmarked for use later when I post on a conservative blog. TexasTowelie May 2015 #7

You are so very brave, TT! sheshe2 May 2015 #10

My dear, you are strong. Iliyah May 2015 #12

You are mischaracterizing DU. Jim Lane May 2015 #80

+1 cui bono May 2015 #85

+1. I agree with every word. "Implicit" racial bias is not just the provence of the right. Some.. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #128

Who would have known that the TPP with birth ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #131

Yup. They finally found an "ism" they can't live with. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #133

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #138

I was going to say it was interesting for them to say that at a time when the GOP and Obama cui bono May 2015 #11

Obama is not working against liberals, although some are too obtuse to realize it. Hoyt May 2015 #13

No he is not, but they must elevate their choice Iliyah May 2015 #14

Sanders, Warren, Brown, and the other Democratic Congress members are all obtuse are they? Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #15

I guess you prefer siding with Tbaggers on TPP. See, it's easy to play your game. Hoyt May 2015 #16

I am so loving you Hoyt! nt sheshe2 May 2015 #17

Thanks. I sure need it. :) Hoyt May 2015 #24

Well you have it. sheshe2 May 2015 #42

You do pretty well too. I always look for your posts. What really saddens me are the good Dems Hoyt May 2015 #56

Damn you Democrats for not voting with Republicans!!!! How dare you!! neverforget May 2015 #50

It's not the liberals' game. I was accused of being a libertarian because I agreed with Rand Paul cui bono May 2015 #81

You are painfully, agonizingly correct nikto May 2015 #71

Well, he did say he was like a "moderate '80s Republican" Art_from_Ark May 2015 #86

Yeah, economically ... nikto May 2015 #97

I absolutely do know just what you are talking Nite Owl May 2015 #141

Overall, I think President Obama has been a good President. Half-Century Man May 2015 #18

DUzy sheshe2 May 2015 #19

Well said Iliyah May 2015 #20

This is from two months ago MannyGoldstein May 2015 #21

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm~ sheshe2 May 2015 #23

Ok. MannyGoldstein May 2015 #25

I posted in this thread.... sheshe2 May 2015 #38

Thank you! Iliyah May 2015 #28

Hugs Iliyah! sheshe2 May 2015 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author neverforget May 2015 #45

So the round President Obama lost today is more disrespect because he's black? bluesbassman May 2015 #22

No, and the attacking of posters is unacceptable, period. Iliyah May 2015 #27

Sorry, I wasn't responding to you so I have no idea what you're getting on about. bluesbassman May 2015 #32

Actually you did, see what I posted you. sheshe2 May 2015 #36

Did someone send out the bat signal to say this is 2 months old news? sheshe2 May 2015 #33

Only Bat Signal sent out tonight was your OP. bluesbassman May 2015 #46

Exactly. cui bono May 2015 #82

Actually, you would be wrong. sheshe2 May 2015 #90

It was a stupid alert. cui bono May 2015 #109

I think you're confusing "implication" with "inference..." LanternWaste May 2015 #111

Thanks for the correction. bluesbassman May 2015 #115

Sorry, watching a Democratic President team up with Republicans... raindaddy May 2015 #26

Respect is earned... Obama ISN'T earning it now! cascadiance May 2015 #54

Yeah, it's sickening the disrespect the President gets from those who can't debate with integrity.. Cha May 2015 #29

Truth! Iliyah May 2015 #30

Did the posts about the Bronze Statues go to the top of the page! sheshe2 May 2015 #47

you win some you lose some Enrique May 2015 #31

It's not over. Cha May 2015 #35

true Enrique May 2015 #40

And some here will cheer it as a victory. zeemike May 2015 #70

And in the same breath, they'll go on about how horrible it will be Art_from_Ark May 2015 #96

Obama "supporters" accepted the outcome for today. It was known last week. Iliyah May 2015 #43

He won really big Iliyah May 2015 #49

Maybe the Senate Democrats need to read this n/t WestSideStory May 2015 #34

They have Iliyah May 2015 #39

Why? Because they did their job as they are supposed to? cui bono May 2015 #88

he won twice... But I think some are right, he was being held to a higher standard than AuntPatsy May 2015 #37

What an utterly dishonest and disgusting OP. TM99 May 2015 #41

This is what the RW/GOP/Libertarians do Iliyah May 2015 #48

You are making zero sense. TM99 May 2015 #55

You know what. sheshe2 May 2015 #60

Now you claim you are a victim TM99 May 2015 #61

I agree, the "two month" criticism makes no sense. Heck, these folks are treating Obama worse now Hoyt May 2015 #74

Really? The gender card? cui bono May 2015 #84

Post removed Post removed May 2015 #93

In response to your hidden post... cui bono May 2015 #107

"brutal attack"? SMC22307 May 2015 #152

+1 rbnyc May 2015 #129

You are too involved. I think you need to step away for a while! akbacchus_BC May 2015 #51

yes, but hatred will still be here Iliyah May 2015 #57

We all do, and hate is not sustainable! akbacchus_BC May 2015 #59

Most Americans are not. Iliyah May 2015 #64

I agree with you, Most of us want peace and live akbacchus_BC May 2015 #69

You think I need to step away? sheshe2 May 2015 #65

No, I only know how political you are on here! akbacchus_BC May 2015 #67

I disagree. The Far right has legitimized extremist and often racist dialog... Eleanors38 May 2015 #122

Results of your Jury Service ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2015 #52

Thank you jurors. nt ucrdem May 2015 #92

Your post was alerted on, and here are the results: CaliforniaPeggy May 2015 #53

Thank you Peggy! sheshe2 May 2015 #66

Wow.. some people want to censure anything on this board that doesn't fit their stupid little agenda Cha May 2015 #68

WTF? sheshe2 May 2015 #95

Ah, the little soothsayers, crystal ball and tea leaf readers need to go back to psychic school and Cha May 2015 #140

Sad but true Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2015 #145

I don't even alert the ones that tell my friends they're "a fucking idiot".. just boomerrang it. Cha May 2015 #149

If one speaks speaks up on race, the posts are alerted. It is we who speak up who are racists! How dare we? Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2015 #103

But as I've posted ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #134

As a note, if disrespect hits a new low, that's actually a good thing... whereisjustice May 2015 #58

It seems like it will never end huh Iliyah May 2015 #76

'Yes, and they should do so honorably.' It's a disgrace what they have done to him and freshwest May 2015 #72

I never understood the demand for respect for a POTUS. Bonobo May 2015 #73

Respecting Presidents is boring. Need more pitchforks. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #99

Disrespect of Americans and democracy by our corrupt, purchased government hits a new low. woo me with science May 2015 #75

Well sheshe2 May 2015 #87

Exactly. And the feigned innocence is ridiculous and transparent. cui bono May 2015 #89

Results of your Jury Service DeadLetterOffice May 2015 #105

^^^THIS^^^ L0oniX May 2015 #118

"mouthpieces of the first black president" You mean like his fucking SUPPORTERS? Number23 May 2015 #124

Sounds like this TPP thing has the corporate wing of the Democratic Party riled up. jalan48 May 2015 #77

nope, won it Iliyah May 2015 #79

Good one, she! longship May 2015 #83

I think it's partly racism but partly 9/11 Jim Lane May 2015 #91

Post removed Post removed May 2015 #94

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #98

Respect is not automatic..... sendero May 2015 #100

Certainly not just the Rethugs. Right here on DU. It's NOT just Republican racism, either! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2015 #102

The criticism has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with his moderate Republican cui bono May 2015 #110

I disagree with the president on a host of issues, but don't deny that the *constant* disrespect Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2015 #123

On Du that is not the case. It is about policy differences. cui bono May 2015 #136

Fuck that! When people of color say that they have experienced racism right here on DU, they have! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2015 #150

I didn't say that. I've seen some racist comments on DU, particularly regarding white privelege. cui bono May 2015 #153

Speak on it! Racism seems to be the only "ism" Americans, of all stripes, willfully ignore. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #135

Right here on DU TOO! MaggieD May 2015 #104

You are conflating disrespect with criticism. cui bono May 2015 #113

No I'm not MaggieD May 2015 #114

Well I'll give you the right wing talking points for sure. cui bono May 2015 #116

So let me get this straight... MaggieD May 2015 #117

You haven't provided any context so I can't comment on that. cui bono May 2015 #119

uh huh MaggieD May 2015 #120

Or a "f**cking used car salesman", and the disrespect goes on to collect a few hundred recs. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #143

I don't see it as racism fadedrose May 2015 #106

A new low all over the place. NCTraveler May 2015 #112

That poster has been called out as being full of shit since s/he first got here. By no means, Number23 May 2015 #125

This is also fueled by the reputation of Democrats as being weak & afraid... Eleanors38 May 2015 #121

It's sad but the GOP has become gopiscrap May 2015 #126

He is not able to run again for President. He obviously can get the stuff he WANTS to get done, djean111 May 2015 #127

Shhh ... DU is talking about that (President) Obama's ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #130

She, I'm so sorry you got locked out of your thread. You were stalked, baited, and ultimately.... Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #132

HA, someone got a 24-hour lockout after reporting your post R B Garr May 2015 #139

Thanks for letting me know. Juror #7 hit it out of the park. Alerter should be shut down for abuse. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #142

No problem, Tarheel. I think if a jury result is unanimous against the R B Garr May 2015 #148

Agreed. Bobbie Jo May 2015 #146

Yup. They're yukkin' it up. I guess it's a victory (of sorts). Alert stalkers suck! Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #147

as does the disrespect for Michelle Obama ... napkinz May 2015 #137

IMO it is all about the color of his skin. South Texas seems to be a hotbed Rex May 2015 #144

Thank you for admitting the truth. Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2015 #151