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BrotherIvan

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50. Very interesting

Wed May 13, 2015, 04:26 AM

May 2015

But I think what the Hillboosters forget is that Clinton was seen as the inevitable winner in 2008 from the beginning as well, but there was this huge swath of voters that didn't want to vote for her. They were broken up by the other candidates, and as each one dropped out of the race, those voters did not shift to Clinton, they went for Obama. Those voters are still there. And now we don't have a split race, except maybe O'Malley who people will vote for because he's young over Bernie's "too old." Then when O'Malley drops out, those people will go to Bernie.

So the biggest question is, can Bernie get a lot of people who came and voted in 2008 but have not voted since to come out again? To be quite honest, I don't think Hillary can generate the excitement to bring them in. Perhaps Bernie can, I don't know. The biggest threat will come from the party itself who will do everything it can to make sure Clinton wins.

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The More They Attempt to Paint Bernie Sanders as a Marginal Candidate... [View all] Tom Rinaldo May 2015 OP

loses. LWolf May 2015 #1

I think it's going to backfire on them Tom Rinaldo May 2015 #3

K&R. CharlotteVale May 2015 #2

Until his numbers come up to show that he actually can be procon May 2015 #4

Yet GOP candidates with decimal level support are getting more TEEVEE exposure NorthCarolina May 2015 #5

The fact that Biden, who will absolutely not run, is polling at 11% tells LondonReign2 May 2015 #18

And name recognition is one of the primary reasons procon May 2015 #29

Biden's "poll numbers" are the result of name recognition from being the VP LondonReign2 May 2015 #33

It doesn't change the dynamic. procon May 2015 #34

You can try to wish away Sanders candidacy all you want LondonReign2 May 2015 #37

Biden isn't running. Adrahil May 2015 #42

Disagree. The media - even the M$M like to have something to talk about erronis May 2015 #6

What a witty insult ("HRH")... brooklynite May 2015 #8

You are currently suffering from an affliction called Hillary Adoration Syndrome eloydude May 2015 #38

Adoration? far from it... brooklynite May 2015 #40

I will vote for her, if she is the Democratic nominee. eloydude May 2015 #41

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Don't forget; Hillary doesn't speak... cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #17

Tell ya what.... Adrahil May 2015 #43

I donated my absolute last dollar to politicians a long time ago. cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #49

That'd be a no then? Adrahil May 2015 #60

Hello Tom, donnasgirl May 2015 #7

+1. Funny how "marginal" is now being thrown around like "liberal" used to be. erronis May 2015 #11

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I haven't called him marginal once. But he wont win a single primary. Adrahil May 2015 #44

I understand what you say to a point donnasgirl May 2015 #58

We shall see. Adrahil May 2015 #61

Know who else was considered a marginal candidate? Dennis Kucinich. brooklynite May 2015 #9

And they appeal to the same folks. The same group was convinced each had a shot. nt stevenleser May 2015 #14

little chance against nationally better-known politicians; his name recognition was two percent... LanternWaste May 2015 #15

Ha, you posted this while I had my screen open for essentially making the same reply n/t Tom Rinaldo May 2015 #19

Jimmy Carter, while not well-known, was seen as a mainstream Democrat... brooklynite May 2015 #23

No two eletion cycles are the same when you scratch the surface. Tom Rinaldo May 2015 #24

Good points here . . . markpkessinger May 2015 #36

Possibly. But that's a really long shot. n/t Adrahil May 2015 #45

Jimmy Carter was called a "marginal candidate" for a long time. Tom Rinaldo May 2015 #16

Against the House minority leader appointed President from a scandal wracked party? How did he do? stevenleser May 2015 #21

Well then one would think some non marginal Democratic politician would have won the nomination Tom Rinaldo May 2015 #22

Nope, it was a weak year featuring a young Jerry Brown and George "Segragationist" Wallace stevenleser May 2015 #30

That's misleading Tom Rinaldo May 2015 #35

Muskie was a victim of Nixon's Dirty Tricks Team Art_from_Ark May 2015 #52

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Funny you should mention the 2004 elections Tom Rinaldo May 2015 #20

Anyone who voted against the non UN sanctioned preemptive fraudulent Iraq war was marginalized.... think May 2015 #28

Not so great. IMO, too ideological. OTOH, Bernie comes across as pragmatic. immoderate May 2015 #32

We shall see. If you're right, I'll work hard for him. Adrahil May 2015 #46

Exactly MaggieD May 2015 #59

They're going to try to ignore him first, as with the DNC's exclusivity agreement limiting debates. Marr May 2015 #10

K&R - The DNC has got to be in fever pitch right now! erronis May 2015 #13

Well, you can rest assured Bernie will meet at least one of your expectations. Second in NH. nt stevenleser May 2015 #12

Let me make that correction for you. Bernie'll finish first in NH by a blowout. eloydude May 2015 #39

And then you woke up... Nt stevenleser May 2015 #48

They maginalized Jesse Ventura right up... 99Forever May 2015 #25

"they" the MN politicians also critically marginalized someone else... HereSince1628 May 2015 #31

New Hampshire already knows Bernie, so good luck MSM tearing him down! TheNutcracker May 2015 #26

I'm not surprised he's being marginalized. That was always going to be his staring point. Orsino May 2015 #27

Silly! Bernie can only win if Wall Street and the banksters fund his campaign. Got it? L0oniX May 2015 #47

Very interesting BrotherIvan May 2015 #50

My vote will matter. sgtbenobo May 2015 #51

If Bernie received half as much negative comments as Hillary receives here you just may have Thinkingabout May 2015 #53

They have to bash Hillary leftofcool May 2015 #57

Yes, guess you are right. Thinkingabout May 2015 #62

My tone in the OP was intentionally non complaining, I made an observation Tom Rinaldo May 2015 #63

Let me ask this question, how much do you think it is helping Bernie for the backers of Bernie Thinkingabout May 2015 #64

I'm Pro Bernie, not Anti-Hillary Tom Rinaldo May 2015 #66

Sounds good, we want to elect Democrats. Thinkingabout May 2015 #67

K&R! Omaha Steve May 2015 #65