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Warren DeMontague

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175. I have issues with her, but age isn't one of them.

Wed May 13, 2015, 08:03 AM

May 2015

That said, her qualifications aren't one, either.

I think she's smart, she's tough, she knows washington and how it operates- those are excellent qualifications. She has more than enough experience in government.

And let's be honest. What, exactly, constitutes "qualifications" to be President? I mean, the job most widely considered to be the stepping stone to the Presidency; they Vice Presidency, doesn't actually have any real defined function whatsoever, except to wait there in case something happens to the President, or maybe cast a tiebreaking vote in the Senate.

A lot of people come to the Presidency from the Senate- she's got that under her belt.

But, really, the Presidency of the United States is like no other job on Earth- as such, it's fairly impossible to quantify what constitutes "qualified", or not.

That said, the post which claimed she was -I'm not making this up- the most qualified person to EVER run... look, I like Hillary Clinton, I may vote for her in the primaries, I'll definitely vote for her in the general if she's the nominee.. but that's sort of a silly thing to assert.

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I like the passive tense! Removes all human action and influence from the equation! nt Bonobo May 2015 #1

Voice, not tense, and where? ucrdem May 2015 #73

You're grammatically incorrect, but yes, the language does limit the scope of what matters Bucky May 2015 #132

I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious May 2015 #2

Hillary is getting my vote because I believe she is the most qualified and she is our best hrmjustin May 2015 #3

I'm Ready For Oligarchy - Are You? - Support Obama On TPP - Elect HRC To Continue The Charade cantbeserious May 2015 #4

You do what you want. hrmjustin May 2015 #5

Go Bernie Go - Our Next US President cantbeserious May 2015 #6

A great man! hrmjustin May 2015 #7

I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious May 2015 #8

And I have no doubt you will support Sanders to the fullest and I wish you well. hrmjustin May 2015 #9

Always such a great person. Quackers May 2015 #85

Thank you very much. hrmjustin May 2015 #110

I will no longer settle for a Republican regime. okasha May 2015 #134

Definition of trolling. JaneyVee May 2015 #18

agree PowerToThePeople May 2015 #37

How can you possibly think oligarchy is something that rises of falls based on a president? BainsBane May 2015 #38

. Katashi_itto May 2015 #49

... SidDithers May 2015 #75

Waffles are good....! Katashi_itto May 2015 #138

What the fuck is that shit? ismnotwasm May 2015 #129

It's the policies AgingAmerican May 2015 #61

Which policies? BainsBane May 2015 #62

The policies that further the wealth transfer AgingAmerican May 2015 #64

TPP BainsBane May 2015 #65

Grand bargains AgingAmerican May 2015 #66

You mean like the nuclear deal with Iran? BainsBane May 2015 #67

No, like the grand bargains with the GOP AgingAmerican May 2015 #68

So you are talking about Obama's negotiations with the GOP BainsBane May 2015 #69

As an example, yes AgingAmerican May 2015 #71

Obama was a poor negotiator BainsBane May 2015 #72

Well I don't think that hootinholler May 2015 #82

I'm pretty sure that everyone is aware that there is no silver bullet, but Exilednight May 2015 #83

Then tell them there is no difference between the parties and they get furious. Puzzledtraveller May 2015 #56

Ha Ha .... you should have done a thread with that title laserhaas May 2015 #102

I'm sticking with the dynamic duo. redstateblues May 2015 #13

She will be great! hrmjustin May 2015 #14

Well, the economy thrived, Art_from_Ark May 2015 #76

Don't pester the Clinton lobby with facts laserhaas May 2015 #105

Welfare reform. Mass incarcerations. Ramp up of drug war. bravenak May 2015 #130

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It is the fact that she supported them and touted them as accomplishments. bravenak May 2015 #155

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The poster I replied to called them the dynamic DuO. bravenak May 2015 #158

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She has time and my attention. bravenak May 2015 #160

I will only vote Bernie Katashi_itto May 2015 #20

You can only vote for one person. hrmjustin May 2015 #22

Very observant Katashi_itto May 2015 #44

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.. Katashi_itto May 2015 #46

I see myself voting for one safeinOhio May 2015 #70

It would be a lot easier if it was plants vs. zombies. Rex May 2015 #10

I'll concur she is a qualified candidate to run for POTUS eloydude May 2015 #11

You state she is far the 1%, how do you explain her work to get the minimun wage increased, Thinkingabout May 2015 #17

It's lip service and it won't help the poor or middle class much at all davidn3600 May 2015 #30

I am still trying to figure out how getting minimum wage increases only helps the 1%. Thinkingabout May 2015 #55

Concur.... War machine, TPP and anti-Wall Street frauds is germane laserhaas May 2015 #106

Love to see that link! tazkcmo May 2015 #115

Hillary's stand on the issues is easily found, has lots of information. Thinkingabout May 2015 #121

lol! tazkcmo May 2015 #122

She will be running on her record. You first complained you only heard talk and wanted links. Thinkingabout May 2015 #123

Complain? tazkcmo May 2015 #125

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If you love war... MattSh May 2015 #59

That's what we heard eight years ago. okasha May 2015 #135

I wont settle for the lessor ergo I support Hillary as my choice for DNC noninee. Thinkingabout May 2015 #12

In other words, you won't support Bernie in the primaries eloydude May 2015 #15

You get Bernie to change his mind on national defense for one and I will give him another look. Thinkingabout May 2015 #19

Hillary's national defense record is nothing to be proud of. n/t Exilednight May 2015 #84

What's wrong with his positions on national defense? hootinholler May 2015 #86

What do you like with his position on national defense record. Thinkingabout May 2015 #91

I asked you what was wrong with them. hootinholler May 2015 #93

His voting record Thinkingabout May 2015 #97

Ooooh, the horrible voting record. hootinholler May 2015 #98

On national security he has a bad record. You don't have to pull teeth, I gave you an Thinkingabout May 2015 #99

Um it's the same question hootinholler May 2015 #100

it is over Thinkingabout May 2015 #108

There are very few like Richards... and Bernie has a better track record laserhaas May 2015 #114

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+1 leftofcool May 2015 #81

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Dude, you just piss people off with this stuff BainsBane May 2015 #21

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Sorry BainsBane May 2015 #28

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Woman, you really piss people off with this stuff. peacebird May 2015 #162

DU rec...nt SidDithers May 2015 #23

She bravely suppored the iraq war, and has experience as a Walmart boad member. Travis_0004 May 2015 #24

Glad you brought up her time on Walmart board, while there she pushed for the Thinkingabout May 2015 #25

And while Hilary was on the board Walmart spent years fighting labor unions. Travis_0004 May 2015 #29

They are still fighting the unions. She hasn't been on the board since 1992. Thinkingabout May 2015 #50

The AUMF vote on Iraq is an albatross around her neck. Sanders brought it up KingCharlemagne May 2015 #31

His votes on national security will also be brought up, he has a mark in the fail column from me. Thinkingabout May 2015 #48

Just won't wantonly and for no reason blow up enough brown folks to make you feel safe, huh? TheKentuckian May 2015 #137

What the hell are you saying? Thinkingabout May 2015 #139

That my impression is that Sanders hasn't supported enough trumped up military adventurism and TheKentuckian May 2015 #143

Look, Bernie is in Congress, he gets briefings, why doesn't he use this information to make great Thinkingabout May 2015 #144

First, last, middle it makes no difference. You have NEVER articulated what your problems are at all TheKentuckian May 2015 #145

I said in my last post it was my last explanation, it still stands. Thinkingabout May 2015 #146

Then random murder of brown folks for profits it is. TheKentuckian May 2015 #147

You must like murdering brown folks, you continue to bring this up. Thinkingabout May 2015 #148

No, I hate it you are the one who can't get enough of it apparently. TheKentuckian May 2015 #150

You know, you do not have any idea what you are talking about, you have never read where I want Thinkingabout May 2015 #151

WalMart's still being sued for failing to promote women, and has no US-made stuff to speak of. LeftyMom May 2015 #35

She hasn't been on the board since 1992, this is when the Buy America program stopped. Thinkingabout May 2015 #47

If she didn't make any lasting changes, than what was the point? LeftyMom May 2015 #51

Say what you want, does not change the facts, she still has this experience, maybe you went Thinkingabout May 2015 #52

"Experience" only matters if one did well. Otherwise Carly effing Fiorina has experience, LeftyMom May 2015 #58

Having talked to several people who worked under Carly, it was noticed during Thinkingabout May 2015 #74

Sam Walton died in 1992 Art_from_Ark May 2015 #156

Hillary also left the board because Bill was elected president. Thinkingabout May 2015 #166

If Sam had lived longer, "Buy America" would have continued Art_from_Ark May 2015 #169

Who knows, but since then with all the complaining about the imports one can not Thinkingabout May 2015 #172

She's more qualified than any of the Repuke clowns in the running Terra Alta May 2015 #27

That's damning her with faint praise though, imo. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2015 #32

Most Qualfied For... What... Exactly... WillyT May 2015 #33

selling out the middle class AtomicKitten May 2015 #140

Good Start... WillyT May 2015 #141

hey AtomicKitten May 2015 #142

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Two statements of opinion, followed by guillaumeb May 2015 #34

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If you haven't noticed... MattSh May 2015 #60

I have noticed. guillaumeb May 2015 #96

I disagree Marrah_G May 2015 #36

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And many of U.S. agree with you... I did a thread on Warren and BS she can't win laserhaas May 2015 #119

. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #39

This type of thinking is part of the problem. Puzzledtraveller May 2015 #54

She's held two high offices, yes. Has she doen particularly well at either? LeftyMom May 2015 #57

Well put and on point laserhaas May 2015 #113

Bernie is the most qualified candidate running for POTUS. AgingAmerican May 2015 #63

He has zero foreign policy experience. DCBob May 2015 #78

So AgingAmerican May 2015 #89

Nope.. not on this issue. DCBob May 2015 #116

He voted against that war AgingAmerican May 2015 #118

Good for Bernie on that one. He was right. DCBob May 2015 #120

because the Congress never deals with foreign policy. bwhahahaha. cali May 2015 #94

I dont consider being a member of congress as foreign policy experience. DCBob May 2015 #112

This election should focus on the restoring the middle class, since without it our economy collapses peacebird May 2015 #161

Economics usually are the main concern in a presidential election Art_from_Ark May 2015 #163

Yes, usually and I am sure it will still be significant issue. DCBob May 2015 #164

Foreign policy experience has far less significance outside the Beltway Art_from_Ark May 2015 #170

Fox news wasnt around back then. DCBob May 2015 #174

Fox News was certainly around for the 2000 and 2008 elections Art_from_Ark May 2015 #177

Yes.. but their influence was minimal until recently. DCBob May 2015 #178

Their influence started in the 1990s Art_from_Ark May 2015 #181

Right but obvious they are having tremendous influence lately.. DCBob May 2015 #183

Yes she is... by far. DCBob May 2015 #77

Her strategy will be AgingAmerican May 2015 #90

Will HRC stand with McConnell and support TPP? B Calm May 2015 #79

Sorry, I'm voting for a candidates position on the issues. Dawgs May 2015 #80

"Qualified" is a weak-ass word. Orsino May 2015 #87

"Follow the money" - Mike Gravel L0oniX May 2015 #88

extra points for the Mike Gravel reference. Hiraeth May 2015 #168

By what measure is she most qualified? askew May 2015 #92

Hardly. She rode Bill's coattails almost her entire career. closeupready May 2015 #95

Just remember..... daleanime May 2015 #101

She's got the chops to fight the VRWC. ucrdem May 2015 #103

"HRC is the most favorable candidate running for the Democratic nomination. " NCTraveler May 2015 #104

Well, ok. tazkcmo May 2015 #107

Someone should be keeping an eye on me because.....I support R B Garr May 2015 #109

How does one determine who is the most "qualified" to be POTUS? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2015 #111

Dance off!! Bucky May 2015 #133

Well, she does have the most impressive resume KamaAina May 2015 #117

Hillary will be the next President of the Untied States! workinclasszero May 2015 #124

nobody gets my vote for pres DonCoquixote May 2015 #126

Nah, Bernie Sanders is far more qualified IMO. bobjacksonk2832 May 2015 #127

My argument is not with Hillary's lack of qualifications, Maedhros May 2015 #128

Agreed. Of course Nixon was more qualified than JFK; Ford more qualified than Carter Bucky May 2015 #131

Bullshit, Bernie has far more direct and accountable experience. TheKentuckian May 2015 #136

That's nice. But what's her opinion on TPP? davidn3600 May 2015 #153

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Nonsense. She can't even handle questions from the press. 99Forever May 2015 #165

Oh, yes, she is very scared. I would not bet on her being scared. Thinkingabout May 2015 #167

Last I heard, she was the most qualified human to run for President, EVER, in the history of this or Warren DeMontague May 2015 #171

She certainly is well qualified. Yorktown May 2015 #173

I have issues with her, but age isn't one of them. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #175

She may be qualified, but she's bad campaigner CanadaexPat May 2015 #176

. Autumn May 2015 #179

So were President Gore, Kerry and Dukakis n/t doc03 May 2015 #180

Clinton is already getting my money. McCamy Taylor May 2015 #182