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MineralMan

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2. I would suggest the same thing about Bernie Sanders.

Wed May 13, 2015, 10:44 AM

May 2015

He has many things going against him in a presidential run. Lack of name recognition. Age. The Socialist label. Questionable fundraising capacity.

Frankly, I'm not even talking about who the candidate will be. That will be up to primary voters. I'm talking about what we do once there is a candidate. That will dictate how the election turns out. The threat is real and serious.

This thread is not about picking a candidate. It is about the general election and our responsibility as Democratic activists. Your point of view is popular on DU. Polls say it's not so popular out in the general electorate. I support Bernie Sanders and will be caucusing for him in Minnesota. That said, I doubt he will be the candidate, so I'm not trashing the person who is likely to be. That's not productive.

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IMAGINE: All Three Branches of Government in Republican Hands... [View all] MineralMan May 2015 OP

Vote for Hillary Clinton in the Primary and We'll be Swearing in a GOP President in January 2017 NYC_SKP May 2015 #1

I would suggest the same thing about Bernie Sanders. MineralMan May 2015 #2

America is not electing a socialist from Vermont. JaneyVee May 2015 #5

I tend to agree with you, although I love Sanders. MineralMan May 2015 #17

Of course 'America is not electing a socialist from Vermont' John Poet May 2015 #75

'America is not electing a black man with a name that recalls our two biggest national bogeymen'. Marr May 2015 #111

I'll trash Hillary now because it's the principled thing to do to call her out. NYC_SKP May 2015 #13

Yes, I know you will. MineralMan May 2015 #18

She's the odds-on most likely nominee. nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #27

I'm not ignoring you, Nadin. MineralMan May 2015 #39

That is perfectly okay nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #40

It is a script, a script of fear, doubt, and uncertainty. They have nothing else, not a thing. NYC_SKP May 2015 #49

Couple more reasons you left out... brooklynite May 2015 #54

Weak sauce. Hillary picks the low hanging fruit. Any good Dem is pro-choice. This ain't the 1950s. NYC_SKP May 2015 #57

That describes Bernie. Autumn May 2015 #60

Except for that last point... brooklynite May 2015 #61

Like I said, I guess the people will have to step up and fund a candidate Autumn May 2015 #63

And if they don't? brooklynite May 2015 #64

If they don't step up they don't get a President who Autumn May 2015 #65

...and the 18+ million people who supported and voted for Hillary Clinton do.... brooklynite May 2015 #72

Good for you. Your vote is your voice. Use it as you see fit. Autumn May 2015 #73

If your candidate doesn't have the chops to win over voters of all political stripes, it's all moot. NYC_SKP May 2015 #85

I appreciate the fact that -you- don't think so... brooklynite May 2015 #97

To you maybe. If a candidate wins a nomination based on just those 6 issues Autumn May 2015 #86

"NB", thanks for that. NYC_SKP May 2015 #84

I just watch the games with amusement nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #55

Really, a Republican that supports marriage equality, raising wages, JaneyVee May 2015 #3

Every Democrat supports these.. That's not enough, her negatives far outweigh these basic points. NYC_SKP May 2015 #53

This is exactly what could make that happen ^ world wide wally May 2015 #6

Fuck Nadar. Fuck Nadar voters. we can do it May 2015 #16

When a Clinton supporter mentions Nader, it's because they have no argument for her. NYC_SKP May 2015 #43

As stated in reply #3 by JaneyVee: world wide wally May 2015 #47

Everybody worth a shit supports these things. That is pretty much unimpressive. NYC_SKP May 2015 #50

Stupid comment. My first current choice is Bernie. I will support the Democratic nominee. we can do it May 2015 #78

I wasn't disagreeing with you, sorry you think the comment is "stupid". NYC_SKP May 2015 #80

I know he did. Sorry. I take it back. we can do it May 2015 #82

What a sad statement for a supposedly "political liberal" DU poster. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #58

FUCK FUCKING NADAR. we can do it May 2015 #79

It's certainly not clear what you have against Felix Nadar. A fine photographer. rhett o rick May 2015 #87

A laugh is always a good thing. we can do it May 2015 #89

The Kochs spend $900 million on a one upaloopa May 2015 #32

Why are we trashing either one? bluegopher May 2015 #103

Imagine the DLC standing on the ramparts... kentuck May 2015 #4

The DLC has been defunct for years, now. MineralMan May 2015 #19

no need for them Robbins May 2015 #24

i fear that will be the results of doc03 May 2015 #7

That's the very reason we need to support Sen Sanders for president. Seems to rhett o rick May 2015 #8

I agree. NYC_SKP May 2015 #14

I doubt that enough Democrats will support Sanders to get him MineralMan May 2015 #20

it doesn't matter Robbins May 2015 #22

Not everyone agrees with you, actually. MineralMan May 2015 #37

Robbins, and there are many who do agree with you Oilwellian May 2015 #107

I am disappointed in seeing such attitudes from some here. "I think we can't, I think we can't." rhett o rick May 2015 #59

That's the thing. People who don't think they'll be affected don't care. onecaliberal May 2015 #101

I put Hillary's baggage in perspective. If the GOP had any candidate under a microscope the way okaawhatever May 2015 #26

I'll do my part to take back the House and Senate. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #9

Well, that's going to take serious GOTV efforts. MineralMan May 2015 #23

I believe in 365 day a year GOTV. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #33

That would be horrible. The Democratic party leadership needs to get on the stick Autumn May 2015 #10

well Robbins May 2015 #11

Bernie is the truth and the way aspirant May 2015 #12

I'm not involved in primary campaign organizations. MineralMan May 2015 #25

IMAGINE: A party that understands this is their problem to solve jeff47 May 2015 #15

You know what? In the end it is precisely the voters MineralMan May 2015 #29

Not in the system we actually have. jeff47 May 2015 #44

+1, well said. Marr May 2015 #112

What does 'never mind the primary elections' mean? whatchamacallit May 2015 #21

I think it might mean STFU and eat your gruel. NYC_SKP May 2015 #34

I'm suggesting that the primaries will result in MineralMan May 2015 #35

Lol... Amazing how much milage you get by stating the obvious whatchamacallit May 2015 #52

and so many states, to enhance, reinforce, progress on their path. nt seabeyond May 2015 #28

Absolutely. State legislatures should be a huge part of MineralMan May 2015 #30

this is my point. living in a red state and watching their strategy. this is what 2016 is for me. seabeyond May 2015 #31

I'll do whatever I can for Bernie...he's won me over. And I truly believe, in the end, IF... libdem4life May 2015 #36

And I encourage you to do just that. MineralMan May 2015 #41

Well, it's still a time away...some of the first primaries will give some guidance. But when I libdem4life May 2015 #45

My thoughts exactly. Vote your heart in the primary. Vote your head in the general election. bklyncowgirl May 2015 #51

K&R! n/t RKP5637 May 2015 #38

It's a terrifying thought. Vinca May 2015 #42

I literally CANNOT afford Bobbie Jo May 2015 #46

Thanks to GWB, I have no retirement funds. MineralMan May 2015 #67

Yep Bobbie Jo May 2015 #69

Elections DO matter, and the party of those elected DOES matter. MineralMan May 2015 #71

And that's why we need to run someone who can win. TBF May 2015 #48

She COULD win; she didn't brooklynite May 2015 #62

She would have won in 2008, except that MineralMan May 2015 #68

Perhaps after all the charisma folks are ready TBF May 2015 #77

I can imagine people voting for the oligarchy's choice. L0oniX May 2015 #56

The first thing that comes to my mind is the 1939 German "government" and a book AlinPA May 2015 #66

I am also very worried about the GOP controlling all three branches Gothmog May 2015 #70

I would say that we are heading in that direction... kentuck May 2015 #74

Well, maybe it was? kentuck May 2015 #76

No thanks, but you go ahead and dream. Rex May 2015 #81

Oh Snap! NYC_SKP May 2015 #83

could be a reality Rosa Luxemburg May 2015 #88

We have united oligarchy, not divided democracy. woo me with science May 2015 #90

And It Would Be Different... HOW ??? WillyT May 2015 #91

Ask your LGBT friends, or a pregnant woman MineralMan May 2015 #92

Imagine a trade deal Aerows May 2015 #93

It would get very ugly. DCBob May 2015 #94

Pretty cynical post Jesus Malverde May 2015 #95

All 3 branchesof government already are in the hands of Republicans. 99Forever May 2015 #96

Why exactly do you hang out at DEMOCRATIC Underground? brooklynite May 2015 #98

God forbid the "Underground" part of the name is ever embraced. bluesbassman May 2015 #100

I'm perfectly happy with how Skinner runs the shop... brooklynite May 2015 #105

Sorta of ironic don't you think... bluesbassman May 2015 #106

I questioned him after he claimed President Obama was a Republican... brooklynite May 2015 #108

Mineral Man's MO BlindTiresias May 2015 #99

I think MM's MO is simply to help some of you to see the big picture. DCBob May 2015 #104

BWAHAHAHAHA! TheSarcastinator May 2015 #114

I would call what he said reality based, not fear based. n/t R B Garr May 2015 #110

I won't shut up, nor get out of the way, thanks. MineralMan May 2015 #113

Thanks a lot MineralMan. bluegopher May 2015 #102

They'd probably vote for a war of choice. CanadaexPat May 2015 #109

My guess is that the barb of your comment TheSarcastinator May 2015 #115