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Xithras

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24. Modern Amtrak train cars are built of pretty thin steel.
Wed May 13, 2015, 11:47 AM
May 2015

Many of the multiple deck passenger cars don't even have the heavy steel frames under them anymore that older passenger cars used. The design provides more passenger space and consumes less fuel, but they have all the rigidity of an aluminum soda can in an accident.

The cars are large enough that their overall weight is still high, so there's lots of potential energy being transferred in an accident. Lots of potential energy + lightweight materials = major structural damage.

As for what caused it... It's entirely possible that the train car simply dug into the dirt and came to a halt. If the dirt was soft enough to allow the car to dig in, nothing else would have been required. The momentum and potential energy of the cars still moving behind it would have been more than enough to crush it and rip it apart.

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Hitting a bridge? malaise May 2015 #1
Completely fact-free speculation with high probability of being wrong here: jberryhill May 2015 #2
I suspect your switching error + speed is a very good guess. mnhtnbb May 2015 #4
Here's another view of the area jberryhill May 2015 #5
Hulk Smash! n/t n2doc May 2015 #3
Huh? It is simple to bend what is essentially a hollow tube into a "L" Take a paper towel roll FSogol May 2015 #6
I just woke to the news....was there a fire also reported? dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #7
Not that I saw or heard about Renew Deal May 2015 #11
Someone on tv said speed was a factor. AngryAmish May 2015 #8
By God, someone get the chicken wire, we have a mystery to solve! NuclearDem May 2015 #9
Someone last night said it hit an electrical pole Renew Deal May 2015 #10
Basic Newtonian physics. hobbit709 May 2015 #12
They're Also Not Strong On The Sides ProfessorGAC May 2015 #13
E = MC2 JaneyVee May 2015 #14
Actually you start here hobbit709 May 2015 #15
Irrelevant MannyGoldstein May 2015 #27
Mope, not even close. nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #33
E=1/2 MV^2 Fumesucker May 2015 #35
you do know they are designed to be light to save on fuel costs snooper2 May 2015 #16
Light is a relative term. Average weight for a passenger rail car is about 100,000 lbs. hobbit709 May 2015 #18
That's an easy one. randome May 2015 #17
Copied. Thanks! LOL. nt Ilsa May 2015 #23
loves me some yuiyoshida May 2015 #36
One knowlegable on trains said passenger cars on Amtrak are lacking in side support Panich52 May 2015 #19
Lack of funding=GOP obstruction Abouttime May 2015 #20
The President can't. He signed the deductions. yeoman6987 May 2015 #29
Nano-thermite? N/T catnhatnh May 2015 #21
Are we looking at the same Amtrak crash? Brother Buzz May 2015 #22
At the right of the picture, just slightly away and to the left of the still-linked line of cars Ken Burch May 2015 #25
Ah! Brother Buzz May 2015 #34
Modern Amtrak train cars are built of pretty thin steel. Xithras May 2015 #24
100+ mph on a curve rated 50mph....... peace13 May 2015 #26
Well we know that the train was traveling 102 mph. IMO that car may have been twisted between jwirr May 2015 #28
From what I've heard - hit a vertical bridge support girder, sideways, as it left the tracks. pinto May 2015 #30
Pics confirm that RobertEarl May 2015 #31
velocity. Puzzledtraveller May 2015 #32
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