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49. It is a script, a script of fear, doubt, and uncertainty. They have nothing else, not a thing.

Wed May 13, 2015, 12:31 PM

May 2015

Reasons we must support Hillary and shut the fuck up about all her baggage:

"Nader"

"SCOTUS"

"Koch Brothers"

Now, never mind that Clinton:
-- is mostly funded by big banksters;
-- takes Koch Brothers money;
-- benefits from Citizens United;
-- thinks that corporations are more trustworthy than governments

These, to me, are huge red flags at a minimum, and should really disqualify her from consideration for running as the leader of our party.

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IMAGINE: All Three Branches of Government in Republican Hands... [View all] MineralMan May 2015 OP

Vote for Hillary Clinton in the Primary and We'll be Swearing in a GOP President in January 2017 NYC_SKP May 2015 #1

I would suggest the same thing about Bernie Sanders. MineralMan May 2015 #2

America is not electing a socialist from Vermont. JaneyVee May 2015 #5

I tend to agree with you, although I love Sanders. MineralMan May 2015 #17

Of course 'America is not electing a socialist from Vermont' John Poet May 2015 #75

'America is not electing a black man with a name that recalls our two biggest national bogeymen'. Marr May 2015 #111

I'll trash Hillary now because it's the principled thing to do to call her out. NYC_SKP May 2015 #13

Yes, I know you will. MineralMan May 2015 #18

She's the odds-on most likely nominee. nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #27

I'm not ignoring you, Nadin. MineralMan May 2015 #39

That is perfectly okay nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #40

It is a script, a script of fear, doubt, and uncertainty. They have nothing else, not a thing. NYC_SKP May 2015 #49

Couple more reasons you left out... brooklynite May 2015 #54

Weak sauce. Hillary picks the low hanging fruit. Any good Dem is pro-choice. This ain't the 1950s. NYC_SKP May 2015 #57

That describes Bernie. Autumn May 2015 #60

Except for that last point... brooklynite May 2015 #61

Like I said, I guess the people will have to step up and fund a candidate Autumn May 2015 #63

And if they don't? brooklynite May 2015 #64

If they don't step up they don't get a President who Autumn May 2015 #65

...and the 18+ million people who supported and voted for Hillary Clinton do.... brooklynite May 2015 #72

Good for you. Your vote is your voice. Use it as you see fit. Autumn May 2015 #73

If your candidate doesn't have the chops to win over voters of all political stripes, it's all moot. NYC_SKP May 2015 #85

I appreciate the fact that -you- don't think so... brooklynite May 2015 #97

To you maybe. If a candidate wins a nomination based on just those 6 issues Autumn May 2015 #86

"NB", thanks for that. NYC_SKP May 2015 #84

I just watch the games with amusement nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #55

Really, a Republican that supports marriage equality, raising wages, JaneyVee May 2015 #3

Every Democrat supports these.. That's not enough, her negatives far outweigh these basic points. NYC_SKP May 2015 #53

This is exactly what could make that happen ^ world wide wally May 2015 #6

Fuck Nadar. Fuck Nadar voters. we can do it May 2015 #16

When a Clinton supporter mentions Nader, it's because they have no argument for her. NYC_SKP May 2015 #43

As stated in reply #3 by JaneyVee: world wide wally May 2015 #47

Everybody worth a shit supports these things. That is pretty much unimpressive. NYC_SKP May 2015 #50

Stupid comment. My first current choice is Bernie. I will support the Democratic nominee. we can do it May 2015 #78

I wasn't disagreeing with you, sorry you think the comment is "stupid". NYC_SKP May 2015 #80

I know he did. Sorry. I take it back. we can do it May 2015 #82

What a sad statement for a supposedly "political liberal" DU poster. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #58

FUCK FUCKING NADAR. we can do it May 2015 #79

It's certainly not clear what you have against Felix Nadar. A fine photographer. rhett o rick May 2015 #87

A laugh is always a good thing. we can do it May 2015 #89

The Kochs spend $900 million on a one upaloopa May 2015 #32

Why are we trashing either one? bluegopher May 2015 #103

Imagine the DLC standing on the ramparts... kentuck May 2015 #4

The DLC has been defunct for years, now. MineralMan May 2015 #19

no need for them Robbins May 2015 #24

i fear that will be the results of doc03 May 2015 #7

That's the very reason we need to support Sen Sanders for president. Seems to rhett o rick May 2015 #8

I agree. NYC_SKP May 2015 #14

I doubt that enough Democrats will support Sanders to get him MineralMan May 2015 #20

it doesn't matter Robbins May 2015 #22

Not everyone agrees with you, actually. MineralMan May 2015 #37

Robbins, and there are many who do agree with you Oilwellian May 2015 #107

I am disappointed in seeing such attitudes from some here. "I think we can't, I think we can't." rhett o rick May 2015 #59

That's the thing. People who don't think they'll be affected don't care. onecaliberal May 2015 #101

I put Hillary's baggage in perspective. If the GOP had any candidate under a microscope the way okaawhatever May 2015 #26

I'll do my part to take back the House and Senate. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #9

Well, that's going to take serious GOTV efforts. MineralMan May 2015 #23

I believe in 365 day a year GOTV. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #33

That would be horrible. The Democratic party leadership needs to get on the stick Autumn May 2015 #10

well Robbins May 2015 #11

Bernie is the truth and the way aspirant May 2015 #12

I'm not involved in primary campaign organizations. MineralMan May 2015 #25

IMAGINE: A party that understands this is their problem to solve jeff47 May 2015 #15

You know what? In the end it is precisely the voters MineralMan May 2015 #29

Not in the system we actually have. jeff47 May 2015 #44

+1, well said. Marr May 2015 #112

What does 'never mind the primary elections' mean? whatchamacallit May 2015 #21

I think it might mean STFU and eat your gruel. NYC_SKP May 2015 #34

I'm suggesting that the primaries will result in MineralMan May 2015 #35

Lol... Amazing how much milage you get by stating the obvious whatchamacallit May 2015 #52

and so many states, to enhance, reinforce, progress on their path. nt seabeyond May 2015 #28

Absolutely. State legislatures should be a huge part of MineralMan May 2015 #30

this is my point. living in a red state and watching their strategy. this is what 2016 is for me. seabeyond May 2015 #31

I'll do whatever I can for Bernie...he's won me over. And I truly believe, in the end, IF... libdem4life May 2015 #36

And I encourage you to do just that. MineralMan May 2015 #41

Well, it's still a time away...some of the first primaries will give some guidance. But when I libdem4life May 2015 #45

My thoughts exactly. Vote your heart in the primary. Vote your head in the general election. bklyncowgirl May 2015 #51

K&R! n/t RKP5637 May 2015 #38

It's a terrifying thought. Vinca May 2015 #42

I literally CANNOT afford Bobbie Jo May 2015 #46

Thanks to GWB, I have no retirement funds. MineralMan May 2015 #67

Yep Bobbie Jo May 2015 #69

Elections DO matter, and the party of those elected DOES matter. MineralMan May 2015 #71

And that's why we need to run someone who can win. TBF May 2015 #48

She COULD win; she didn't brooklynite May 2015 #62

She would have won in 2008, except that MineralMan May 2015 #68

Perhaps after all the charisma folks are ready TBF May 2015 #77

I can imagine people voting for the oligarchy's choice. L0oniX May 2015 #56

The first thing that comes to my mind is the 1939 German "government" and a book AlinPA May 2015 #66

I am also very worried about the GOP controlling all three branches Gothmog May 2015 #70

I would say that we are heading in that direction... kentuck May 2015 #74

Well, maybe it was? kentuck May 2015 #76

No thanks, but you go ahead and dream. Rex May 2015 #81

Oh Snap! NYC_SKP May 2015 #83

could be a reality Rosa Luxemburg May 2015 #88

We have united oligarchy, not divided democracy. woo me with science May 2015 #90

And It Would Be Different... HOW ??? WillyT May 2015 #91

Ask your LGBT friends, or a pregnant woman MineralMan May 2015 #92

Imagine a trade deal Aerows May 2015 #93

It would get very ugly. DCBob May 2015 #94

Pretty cynical post Jesus Malverde May 2015 #95

All 3 branchesof government already are in the hands of Republicans. 99Forever May 2015 #96

Why exactly do you hang out at DEMOCRATIC Underground? brooklynite May 2015 #98

God forbid the "Underground" part of the name is ever embraced. bluesbassman May 2015 #100

I'm perfectly happy with how Skinner runs the shop... brooklynite May 2015 #105

Sorta of ironic don't you think... bluesbassman May 2015 #106

I questioned him after he claimed President Obama was a Republican... brooklynite May 2015 #108

Mineral Man's MO BlindTiresias May 2015 #99

I think MM's MO is simply to help some of you to see the big picture. DCBob May 2015 #104

BWAHAHAHAHA! TheSarcastinator May 2015 #114

I would call what he said reality based, not fear based. n/t R B Garr May 2015 #110

I won't shut up, nor get out of the way, thanks. MineralMan May 2015 #113

Thanks a lot MineralMan. bluegopher May 2015 #102

They'd probably vote for a war of choice. CanadaexPat May 2015 #109

My guess is that the barb of your comment TheSarcastinator May 2015 #115