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JustAnotherGen

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169. I get frustrated at DU sometimes

Wed May 13, 2015, 06:30 PM

May 2015

Right now everyone is focused on something that can happen a year and a half from now.

I've gt a school budget vote that I disagree with coming up next month . . . And school board election.

What's interesting in our efforts - in our town we feel victimized by Chris Chrstie. He's never going to be the President when two Republicans on my street (heavy donors to boot) hate him. We can do things now to combat Trenton - we can do things now to combat DC.

Every single DUer that has a school focused election could make a massive impact on their community if they spent half as much time active at the local level as they do at DU.

But - thank you for this convo - I greatly appreciate it. I've got people coming over at 7 to talk this budget (anti teacher and student) and our strategy for our school board nominees!

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Sanders might do to Hillary what Nader did to Gore in 2000 [View all] Backwoodsrider May 2015 OP

Has Hillary won the primary yet? I must have missed that. Edited Autumn May 2015 #1

+1 JustAnotherGen May 2015 #5

+1000 G_j May 2015 #6

+10000000000 peacebird May 2015 #184

Today I found out I have something to be thankful for... cui bono May 2015 #266

Damn. Am I the only lucky one? Autumn May 2015 #267

Gore won. Bush stole it. morningfog May 2015 #2

+1 million deutsey May 2015 #11

Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris stole more votes in Florida John Poet May 2015 #104

^^^THIS^^^ is what happened to Gore, FYI MrMickeysMom May 2015 #185

Sanders has stated time and again JustAnotherGen May 2015 #3

interesting take on the 3rd party Backwoodsrider May 2015 #19

I too live in reality Robbins May 2015 #25

I completely agree Backwoodsrider May 2015 #90

Exactly.. sendero May 2015 #265

there's no "might back.. who wins" involved, kiddo cali May 2015 #42

Yep Robbins May 2015 #52

interesting Backwoodsrider May 2015 #97

"Just a politician" karynnj May 2015 #108

do the research. there are plenty of threads cali May 2015 #113

he has the politician wordiness down Backwoodsrider May 2015 #120

Gee, you're awful fond of words yourself..... daleanime May 2015 #136

Truth be told safeinOhio May 2015 #73

thank you Backwoodsrider May 2015 #264

No Labels JustAnotherGen May 2015 #83

thank you just another gen thats a brilliant post Backwoodsrider May 2015 #141

I get frustrated at DU sometimes JustAnotherGen May 2015 #169

Sanders will back whoever wins the primary mythology May 2015 #101

So your friends and family are more interested in 'labels', John Poet May 2015 #107

That level of condescension John Poet May 2015 #109

I'm not sure winning support for Hillary Clinton... Zenlitened May 2015 #116

I was thinking the same myself, John Poet May 2015 #117

Funny, but the majority of voters in races already HAVE voted for a Socialist Democrat... MrMickeysMom May 2015 #190

Your Democratic family and friends LWolf May 2015 #260

Zero chance Bernie will risk doing a Nader, he knows how much harm the right randys1 May 2015 #57

Right marions ghost May 2015 #168

And grabbing Manchin wouldn't be a far reach. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #106

I have popcorn, anyone want extra butter? leftofcool May 2015 #4

How dare more than one person ever run... in a primary! villager May 2015 #7

What a concept...2 candidates in a Primary...Wow. And Bernie has stated he will not be a Spoiler. libdem4life May 2015 #13

El dedazo y el destape nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #20

PRI, indeed. villager May 2015 #21

Oh Noes!11!1!!11 hootinholler May 2015 #8

We needed a new sock to play with LondonReign2 May 2015 #111

Bernie Sanders is a decent person, there's absolutly no sufrommich May 2015 #9

its about power Backwoodsrider May 2015 #23

"I would LOVE to see Hillary in a free debate with Sanders" Zenlitened May 2015 #38

No. It's about ideas and issues. It has nothing to do with "smash mouth politics" cali May 2015 #67

their ideas are just foder for the masses Backwoodsrider May 2015 #78

what are you babbling about? and just who do you think you are,speaking for "all"? cali May 2015 #94

It's spelled "Fodor" Zenlitened May 2015 #118

Sanders has pledged not to run on a third party ticket in the general tritsofme May 2015 #10

+100 nt okaawhatever May 2015 #33

He's not running as an Indy - try again. TBF May 2015 #12

Yes, and being a come-lately, I do not believe he carries the negative baggage of said Party. Just libdem4life May 2015 #18

That's the best part. TBF May 2015 #82

Amen to that. n/t libdem4life May 2015 #88

"I will not be a spoiler." DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #14

and i did not have sex with that woman and there are WMDs in Irag and.... Backwoodsrider May 2015 #26

Of course they do tkmorris May 2015 #50

I am wary of people who become national folk heros Backwoodsrider May 2015 #100

This is irony. kenfrequed May 2015 #251

I am sorry you feel that way Backwoodsrider May 2015 #255

Double "feh" kenfrequed May 2015 #257

well my apology is true Backwoodsrider May 2015 #263

Sanders is competing in the primaries Gothmog May 2015 #15

Sanders will lose in the primary he will not upaloopa May 2015 #16

in 2016 enough left voters might 'sit this one out' because their guy didnt win primary Backwoodsrider May 2015 #36

Name one. ieoeja May 2015 #46

I cant believe I read that either. Wow...with friends like that, how are we ever going to get the randys1 May 2015 #65

calling for a political revolution is pretty far out Backwoodsrider May 2015 #126

Oh brother.... LeftOfWest May 2015 #135

yes he sort of scares me a little Backwoodsrider May 2015 #137

The Reagan Revolution must really scare you. Since it already actually happened. n/t ieoeja May 2015 #151

The words mean nothing... RichVRichV May 2015 #227

make sense to me Backwoodsrider May 2015 #237

Don't play into their hands. RichVRichV May 2015 #240

and Hillary called for "toppling the 1%" cali May 2015 #144

Extremists on the Fringe...Extreme, how? Fringe, Just announced? And the base message would be???? libdem4life May 2015 #47

Sanders does not have "far out points." upaloopa May 2015 #54

Far out? BlindTiresias May 2015 #59

i too would like to pile on to point out how fucking ridiculous your statement looks frylock May 2015 #70

You are correct. Except the extremists on the edge are the Third Wayers LondonReign2 May 2015 #123

Holy crap dude, go back to modding your Harley tkmorris May 2015 #124

Odd given that Sanders is running for the democratic primary. nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #17

I still remember "There's not a dimes worth of difference between Al Gore and George Bush" greenman3610 May 2015 #22

After twenty years of DNC triangulation jeepers May 2015 #61

Sanders is not "attacking Hillary" WDIM May 2015 #24

More flogging of the discredited meme that Nader cost Gore the election...... marmar May 2015 #27

You should reconsider your thoughts about Sanders. NCTraveler May 2015 #28

nader was diferent party splitting pres vote. sanders is running a primary with clinton. what is seabeyond May 2015 #29

You are so woefully uninformed, it's embarrassing to read on this website. AtomicKitten May 2015 #30

Big difference, Nader was third party, Bernie isn't. Second if Hillary wins the nomination still_one May 2015 #31

Stealing what "fire" from Hillary? Buns_of_Fire May 2015 #32

Complete Balderdash. MohRokTah May 2015 #34

Cool story, bro! RandiFan1290 May 2015 #35

His decades of transparency and consistency are what will undermine Hillary, if nothing else. libdem4life May 2015 #37

Thar be panic In Hillaryland. 99Forever May 2015 #39

Yep, and DU seems to be doing its best MaggieD May 2015 #40

duh-herrrrrrrr frylock May 2015 #76

I hope your candidate doesn't embarrass herself making broad brush statements like that. bluesbassman May 2015 #112

It's a fact, not a "scare tactic" MaggieD May 2015 #125

Let me see if I have this straight... bluesbassman May 2015 #132

Yes, you have that right MaggieD May 2015 #138

Well why don't you just ask Bernie then... bluesbassman May 2015 #155

So why does he keep using (I) after his name? MaggieD May 2015 #156

Well it costs a lot of money to have all your shits re-monogrammed. bluesbassman May 2015 #158

Uh huh MaggieD May 2015 #159

Quite simple really if you though about it. TM99 May 2015 #205

But he doesn't want to be known as one? MaggieD May 2015 #208

Irrelevant bullshit. TM99 May 2015 #210

Huh? I have to prove to you he has an (I) after his name? MaggieD May 2015 #213

I just explained to you why. TM99 May 2015 #228

Your explanation was BS... MaggieD May 2015 #229

Go away. TM99 May 2015 #231

Hmm, I am getting a craving for vanilla icecream nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #232

LOL! MaggieD May 2015 #233

You are wasting your time nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #214

Big difference - Bernie is not running 3rd Party. n/t Lil Missy May 2015 #41

just putting this idea out there Backwoodsrider May 2015 #43

Oh, and who cares who the people you know are voting for. HERVEPA May 2015 #48

You do realize, more Dems in Florida voted for Bush Oilwellian May 2015 #167

'Stole'? TransitJohn May 2015 #242

Nader knew exactly how Florida was going to play Backwoodsrider May 2015 #245

Yes, you saying Nader stole votes from Gore is untrue. TransitJohn May 2015 #248

Google Nader stole Florida i dont think its just me Backwoodsrider May 2015 #249

No, you're right, lots of other people are wrong, too TransitJohn May 2015 #250

Really foul to compare Bernie to Nader. Trash thread. nt geek tragedy May 2015 #44

Stupid, stupid post. Poster should educate himself. HERVEPA May 2015 #45

Gore wins Florida by 12,000 votes if you take Nader out of the race bluestateguy May 2015 #49

Over 300,000 Democrats voted for Bush. WorseBeforeBetter May 2015 #244

There is an element of truth to that bluestateguy May 2015 #246

YAwn L0oniX May 2015 #51

How many times is this stupid fucking meme about Sanders going to surface? NuclearDem May 2015 #53

Probably until.... MaggieD May 2015 #58

he has said he will NOT be a spoiler!!!!!!!!!! nt G_j May 2015 #63

Ralph said that too... MaggieD May 2015 #66

Nader was third party from the start, G_j May 2015 #74

No he actually said... MaggieD May 2015 #79

I get what you are saying G_j May 2015 #84

I don't trust any politician MaggieD May 2015 #142

gooble-gobble frylock May 2015 #77

I don't think Sanders will go rogue once he loses the primary. Donald Ian Rankin May 2015 #55

Nader ran as third party AgingAmerican May 2015 #56

Jeb Bush, Katherine Harris, SCOTUS, Republican Congressional aids who rioted Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #60

Bernie is running as a Dem BlindTiresias May 2015 #62

He is? Why no (D) after his name then? MaggieD May 2015 #68

Give this tired diversionary crap a rest. n/t Comrade Grumpy May 2015 #91

You mad, bro? MaggieD May 2015 #140

I have seen THIS game before. Orsino May 2015 #64

Meh. If Gore had broken definitively w. corporate-state ideology Nader would have received no votes at all Smarmie Doofus May 2015 #69

this is embarrassing to read. Bluenorthwest May 2015 #71

Nader ran in the Dem primary? KamaAina May 2015 #72

Gore was his own worst enemy tularetom May 2015 #75

Gore distanced himself from Clinton Art_from_Ark May 2015 #268

No, he won't ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #80

No, I am going to trust him too. leftofcool May 2015 #110

True ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #114

So ... We should crown a Victor and gear up for the General Election before the Primary season ? Trajan May 2015 #81

If Bernie wins the primary, will Hillary run as an independent? JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #85

shit stirring and shit flinging may be the cali May 2015 #86

I do not mean to be a shit stirrer Backwoodsrider May 2015 #92

An opinion based on iron-clad truthiness, apparently n/t deutsey May 2015 #115

so it matters not a whit to you that dozens of people in this thread cali May 2015 #119

well that is some DU members opinion Backwoodsrider May 2015 #121

How the hell would anyone at DU know if he was wrong? MaggieD May 2015 #146

Won't happen. Sanders is vying for the Democratic nomination. MADem May 2015 #87

Bernie has said he won't run Nite Owl May 2015 #89

The "Nader Gave Bush the Election" is hogwash. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #93

There is no maybe about it MaggieD May 2015 #145

+1 MrMickeysMom May 2015 #192

You really don't have any idea what you're talking about Scootaloo May 2015 #95

Their just slow. lol. nt Snotcicles May 2015 #105

I don't think MIRT can act on a poster here since 2008... Zenlitened May 2015 #128

The strategy was outlined in some of the material leaked by Snowden. Maedhros May 2015 #200

Was it really? I guess that'd explain... Zenlitened May 2015 #235

This message was self-deleted by its author Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #170

Crap. Sanders is running for the Dem nomination. riqster May 2015 #96

Not the same at all - Nader ran in the general election against Gore, Sanders is running against her karynnj May 2015 #98

This thread already has one hundred responses... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #99

Thank you for your "concern." Maedhros May 2015 #102

This OP means Bernie's populist record and message must really be spooking HRC's supporters, eh? peacebird May 2015 #188

This week has seen a deluge of low-post-count users posting ridiculously uninformed nonsense Maedhros May 2015 #195

Sanders said he would support the Democratic Nominee if he is not the winner. hrmjustin May 2015 #103

You may find this information useful... JHB May 2015 #122

Can we at least have ONE primary before we crown Hillary queen? Goblinmonger May 2015 #127

Bernie has been attacking the right for 40 years. He has not changed, But continue with your delusion. Vincardog May 2015 #129

When they actually counted the ballots, GORE WON. It was stolen in fla that time, ohio in 04 TheNutcracker May 2015 #130

Oh, bullshit. Give it a rest. truebluegreen May 2015 #131

Bernie has already said he will not run as a spoiler. I beleive him. To help an R beat the jwirr May 2015 #133

Did you believe Ralph when he said it? MaggieD May 2015 #148

yes it is odd he hasnt changed partys yet Backwoodsrider May 2015 #153

In Vermont no one indicates a party preference when they register to vote? We did not question jwirr May 2015 #172

Howard Dean called himself a Democrat MaggieD May 2015 #186

Wake up Maggie the DNR sent all of us a letter telling about our new candidate. What makes you jwirr May 2015 #171

If you mean the DNC, he is useful to them MaggieD May 2015 #179

Hmm. So I am not a Democrat? What is it we are supposed to do to prove it to you? In my state jwirr May 2015 #193

You're a voter - he's a candidate MaggieD May 2015 #207

The stupid is strong in this one. backscatter712 May 2015 #134

If he is running "as a Democrat" MaggieD May 2015 #150

Post removed Post removed May 2015 #154

He was elected as an independent in Vermont. He has changed parties but that election does not jwirr May 2015 #173

Then why is he still adverstising himself as an Independent? MaggieD May 2015 #174

How is he advertising himself as an independent? jwirr May 2015 #176

Inform yourself - I can help MaggieD May 2015 #182

He IS the Independent senator from Vermont. That is his designation from the last election. It will jwirr May 2015 #197

He hasn't changed that MaggieD May 2015 #199

There's no quotes around that. He will be participating in the Democratic primary process, and if he Warren DeMontague May 2015 #247

hillary isnt the best we have bowens43 May 2015 #139

He'll be neutralized SoCalNative May 2015 #143

Legalize Lonnie Anderson's Hair!!!!!!! H2O Man May 2015 #147

He's promised to run as a Democrat, to run a clean campaign, ucrdem May 2015 #149

So, he'll have no effect then. PeteSelman May 2015 #152

As far as I can ascertain, Nader was never elected to public office. Sanders, on the other hand... KansDem May 2015 #157

In Vermont MaggieD May 2015 #160

In 2011, he was ranked third in popularity among US senators KansDem May 2015 #161

In Vermont MaggieD May 2015 #162

This message was self-deleted by its author MaggieD May 2015 #163

Sanders not running a third party campaign in GE. HooptieWagon May 2015 #164

So help me out here...As I remember it, Party Unity My ASS was a HRC supporter thing... HereSince1628 May 2015 #165

I am telling you. Bernie is running as a Democrat Autumn May 2015 #166

Then why is he still adverstising himself as an Independent? MaggieD May 2015 #175

You should ask him that. I know why I don't consider myself a democrat but Autumn May 2015 #178

I don't need to ask him - I can see he isn't a Democrat MaggieD May 2015 #181

The TOS does not say one must be a Democrat to post here. I do support a Democrat. Autumn May 2015 #189

Sure it does MaggieD May 2015 #204

You and my dearest friend have that same problem. You change some words Autumn May 2015 #219

I didn't change any words of yours MaggieD May 2015 #220

Do you deny that you said "If you are not a Democrat you should not be posting here"? Autumn May 2015 #224

You said "I know why I don't consider myself a democrat" MaggieD May 2015 #225

It's not required that I be a Democrat. It is required I support Democrats Autumn May 2015 #230

Your time here is limited, apparently MaggieD May 2015 #215

Even more silliness nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #217

So why is he still advertising as an Independent (I) MaggieD May 2015 #218

Thanks for the time correction, My watch nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #222

I am going to vote for the Democrat, I donate money to his campaign monthly and will Autumn May 2015 #223

silly H2O Man May 2015 #211

Yup nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #216

Maggie, this is what it says on the first page at Democrats.org the actual Party's actual website: Bluenorthwest May 2015 #183

So what? MaggieD May 2015 #187

So you think the Democratic Party is promoting as a Democratic candidate a person who is not in fact Bluenorthwest May 2015 #194

I do. He is useful MaggieD May 2015 #201

take my word nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #191

I mean, Democrats.org for crying out loud, first page. Hillary and Bernie. Obtuse is too kind a word Bluenorthwest May 2015 #196

I had the exact same discussion nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #198

Ever More Fear Mongering cantbeserious May 2015 #177

OY !!!!!!! olddots May 2015 #180

Well at least you post this in good faith, in order to unify DU further. nt Rex May 2015 #202

Or Hillary might do to Sanders... JEB May 2015 #203

I guess I should make this clarification. John Poet May 2015 #252

Thank you. So far I've resisted changing my handle. JEB May 2015 #253

I doubt he could get as many votes as Nader treestar May 2015 #206

as he's not running in the general election cali May 2015 #209

I doubt that Hillary will get as many votes as Gore did. JEB May 2015 #254

Not unless he runs as an independent if he doesn't get the nomination! Spider Jerusalem May 2015 #212

That's fine if you take him at his word. ucrdem May 2015 #226

well, "some of us" seems to be but a handful.. G_j May 2015 #243

Oddly enough the members who berate us for trusting a twice-elected Dem pres ucrdem May 2015 #221

no no and no DonCoquixote May 2015 #234

One word... Blue_In_AK May 2015 #236

Nader wasn't running as a Democrat. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #238

When Hillary is nominated and defeated, because she's a tainted candidate, guess who gets blamed? leveymg May 2015 #239

It's bush league TransitJohn May 2015 #241

Replace "Gore" with "Obama" and "2000" with "2008" magical thyme May 2015 #256

No he won't. He's running as a Democratic candidate. Vinca May 2015 #258

I am telling you that LWolf May 2015 #259

Gore won, but you do not live in a democracy. roody May 2015 #261

Backwood, many Hillary supporters have you on ignore. I know this to be fact because... WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2015 #262