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mfcorey1

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Thu May 14, 2015, 07:29 AM May 2015

What would Dzhokhar Tsarnaev face in Supermax prison? [View all]

(CNN)It's home to Ramzi Yousef, who plotted the 1993 bombing at the World Trade Center; 9/11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui; "Unabomber" Ted Kaczynski; and Richard Reid, the "shoe bomber."

When inmates arrive at the United States Penitentiary Administrative-Maximum Facility in Florence, Colorado, it immediately becomes clear -- ADX, the the nation's most secure Supermax prison, is built to cut them off from the world.

If Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 21, is sentenced to life in prison, he's likely to spend it in the ADX complex. If sentenced to death, he could be sent to the federal penitentiary in Terre Haute, Indiana, with other death row inmates. A federal jury in Boston will soon decide which sentence he gets.

The worst of the worst in America's vast prison network are delivered to ADX, the "Alcatraz of the Rockies," in buses, special vehicles, even Black Hawk helicopters.

Heavily armed patrols cruise the sprawling complex. A dozen imposing gun towers rise above squat brick buildings. Walls topped with razor wire partially block the snow-capped mountains.

"As soon as they come through the door ... you see it in their faces," former ADX warden Robert Hood said. "That's when it really hits you. You're looking at the beauty of the Rocky Mountains in the backdrop. When you get inside, that is the last time you will ever see it."

"The Supermax is life after death," said Hood, who served as ADX warden from 2002 to 2005. "It's long term. ... In my opinion, it's far much worse than death."

'The architecture is the control'

Many of the more than 400 inmates spend as much as 23 hours a day alone in 7-by-12-foot concrete cells. Meals are slid through small holes in the doors. Bed is a concrete slab dressed with a thin mattress and blankets.

A single window about 42 inches high and 4 inches wide allows some natural light but is made so prisoners cannot see beyond the building. Cells have unmovable stools and desks made of concrete. Solid walls prevent prisoners from seeing other cells or having direct contact with other inmates.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/13/us/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-supermax-prison/index.html

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Good. bigwillq May 2015 #1
It takes a real piece of work to wish a lifetime of torture on anyone. Daemonaquila May 2015 #26
He deserves any and every thing he gets. bigwillq May 2015 #30
Isolation on this scale is torture, imho. boston bean May 2015 #2
Thankfully phil89 May 2015 #9
If I were on a jury, they most certainly would be considered. Like it or not. nt boston bean May 2015 #10
I doubt you'd ever serve on a jury making such a decision. MohRokTah May 2015 #16
Is this peoples way of telling me to shut up. I gave a valid opinion. boston bean May 2015 #19
You brought up being on a jury, I didn't. eom MohRokTah May 2015 #20
In response to someone stating my opinion wouldn't be valid. boston bean May 2015 #21
Yes, proving your opinon would not be valid. eom MohRokTah May 2015 #22
well, we've finally sorted that out.. Thanks. boston bean May 2015 #23
I was trying to be delicate. MohRokTah May 2015 #25
And I take yours as the same. boston bean May 2015 #27
I don't consider Supermax confinement to be torture. MohRokTah May 2015 #33
I am. Therefore my very simple and straight to point opinion, posted on an internet message board. boston bean May 2015 #34
Whether you consider it torture or not Euphoria May 2015 #45
Yeah, well if you don't build bombs and murder innocent people, Nye Bevan May 2015 #3
To bad *before he is sentenced* he will not be allowed to speak, even for a minute. Sunlei May 2015 #4
Walls. cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #5
... cwydro May 2015 #14
It's unfortunate that he made such terrible choices. NaturalHigh May 2015 #6
He deserves life in prison but super max is torture and needs reforming. KittyWampus May 2015 #7
While I ultimately want us to be better than this, I won't shed a tear for Tsarnaev being sent there stevenleser May 2015 #8
Good grief. Neither this nor death penalty are deterrents. HERVEPA May 2015 #29
I don't agree that it is torture. I think calling it that strains the term. stevenleser May 2015 #32
Severe isolation is torture, imho and I'm sure others as well. boston bean May 2015 #35
Define severe isolation versus regular isolation please. nt stevenleser May 2015 #36
Read the description that is linked to and you'll know. It clearly is torture, and is meant to be. HERVEPA May 2015 #37
I know what the conditions are at that SuperMax. I don't need to reread it. You still haven't stevenleser May 2015 #40
23 hours a day in a cell, with not being able to speak or see others. boston bean May 2015 #38
Once again, that is not torture, and it diminishes the impact of that word to call it torture. stevenleser May 2015 #42
You are either being disingenuous or obtuse. It clearly is torture. HERVEPA May 2015 #43
Neither. I can tell the difference between waterboarding and detention in a SuperMax. nt stevenleser May 2015 #44
psychological torture is torture, and severe isolation is psychological torture. boston bean May 2015 #46
Good Dwayne Hicks May 2015 #11
Life cwydro May 2015 #12
Cruel and unusual punishment n/t malaise May 2015 #13
Some cases yes, but this case?????? yeoman6987 May 2015 #24
Geez, I find myself agreeing with people here I never agree with otherwise. HERVEPA May 2015 #31
Great read. One part of me says yes it is torture but another says - I don't care underpants May 2015 #15
What are the alternatives? I've an idea. NightWatcher May 2015 #17
Excellent idea. cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #18
I don't know that anyone deserves this Ms. Yertle May 2015 #28
Jails are full of people.. sendero May 2015 #39
Vengeance is never satisfied, torture lives on in the hearts and minds of far too many. AuntPatsy May 2015 #41
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