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In reply to the discussion: The 13 Democrats who just voted to move to debate on trade deal. [View all]woo me with science
(32,139 posts)59. Rotating villains.
If it weren't this 13, it would have been another 13.
We have seen this con game now for years. The system is deeply and pervasively corrupt. Corporate money pouring into Washington to buy soulless, morally bankrupt predators to pretend to be our "representatives."
They and those who shill for them have sacrificed all claim to human decency or conscience. They are the "hollow men" of our generation. It takes a special kind of moral vacancy to participate in this sellout of democracy and human lives and futures, for the filthy paychecks they receive. There is no honor, none, in these con artists or their shills.
Enough is enough.
The Democratic Party's Deceitful Game
http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/
Democrats perpetrate the same scam over and over on their own supporters, and this illustrates perfectly how its played:
....
The primary tactic in this game is Villain Rotation. They always have a handful of Democratic Senators announce that they will be the ones to deviate this time from the ostensible party position and impede success, but the designated Villain constantly shifts, so the Party itself can claim it supports these measures while an always-changing handful of their members invariably prevent it. One minute, its Jay Rockefeller as the Prime Villain leading the way in protecting Bush surveillance programs and demanding telecom immunity; the next minute, its Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer joining hands and breaking with their party to ensure Michael Mukaseys confirmation as Attorney General; then its Big Bad Joe Lieberman single-handedly blocking Medicare expansion; then its Blanche Lincoln and Jim Webb joining with Lindsey Graham to support the de-funding of civilian trials for Terrorists; and now that they cant blame Lieberman or Ben Nelson any longer on health care (since they dont need 60 votes), Jay Rockefeller voluntarily returns to the Villain Role, stepping up to put an end to the pretend-movement among Senate Democrats to enact the public option via reconciliation.
http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/
Democrats perpetrate the same scam over and over on their own supporters, and this illustrates perfectly how its played:
....
The primary tactic in this game is Villain Rotation. They always have a handful of Democratic Senators announce that they will be the ones to deviate this time from the ostensible party position and impede success, but the designated Villain constantly shifts, so the Party itself can claim it supports these measures while an always-changing handful of their members invariably prevent it. One minute, its Jay Rockefeller as the Prime Villain leading the way in protecting Bush surveillance programs and demanding telecom immunity; the next minute, its Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer joining hands and breaking with their party to ensure Michael Mukaseys confirmation as Attorney General; then its Big Bad Joe Lieberman single-handedly blocking Medicare expansion; then its Blanche Lincoln and Jim Webb joining with Lindsey Graham to support the de-funding of civilian trials for Terrorists; and now that they cant blame Lieberman or Ben Nelson any longer on health care (since they dont need 60 votes), Jay Rockefeller voluntarily returns to the Villain Role, stepping up to put an end to the pretend-movement among Senate Democrats to enact the public option via reconciliation.
What a familiar, predictable, manipulative, and vicious con game by corporate Democrats.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6668324
The initial vote was for show. For PR. What Americans heard was that Democrats stood up against this monstrosity.
Then they reverse course, conveniently. AFTER the accolades.
Just like Obama's lying, highly publicized speech pretending that he would rein in military involvement....
...followed immediately by two new wars in Syria and Iraq, funding carpet-bombing of captive populations in Gaza, and a trillion-dollar escalation in nuclear weapons.
Our corrupt Third Way Democrats are corporate liars, puppets for the One Percent as surely as are corporate Republicans. In this oligarchy, this fake democracy, we are ruled by lying propagandists and corporate criminals, who brazenly and deliberately advertise one agenda and pursue another.
Enough corporate corruption. Enough.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6668324
The initial vote was for show. For PR. What Americans heard was that Democrats stood up against this monstrosity.
Then they reverse course, conveniently. AFTER the accolades.
Just like Obama's lying, highly publicized speech pretending that he would rein in military involvement....
...followed immediately by two new wars in Syria and Iraq, funding carpet-bombing of captive populations in Gaza, and a trillion-dollar escalation in nuclear weapons.
Our corrupt Third Way Democrats are corporate liars, puppets for the One Percent as surely as are corporate Republicans. In this oligarchy, this fake democracy, we are ruled by lying propagandists and corporate criminals, who brazenly and deliberately advertise one agenda and pursue another.
Enough corporate corruption. Enough.
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The 13 Democrats who just voted to move to debate on trade deal. [View all]
madfloridian
May 2015
OP
And yet Jeff Merkley did not vote for it while both of the Washington Senators did and Wyden.
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#106
Ah, the usual suspects. The Third Way/Blue Dog/New Democrat usual suspects.
AtomicKitten
May 2015
#2
Actually the two senators from Washington the State don't usually vote with
rhett o rick
May 2015
#30
I thought Sen Cantwell was getting better in the last few years but she does have
rhett o rick
May 2015
#113
"TPA requires the administration make any agreement public for at least 60 days before entering...
Cali_Democrat
May 2015
#11
So they had 10 years to hide everything and we have 60 days to read and research...sounds
haikugal
May 2015
#13
Not to mention that is is a done deal anyway once TPA is in place. That's why they pushed so hard
GoneFishin
May 2015
#62
You're confused. You actually believe that TPA is not the end of the story. After TPA it's a done
GoneFishin
May 2015
#67
Any finalized trade agreement will have to be submitted to Congress for an up-or-down vote. nt
Cali_Democrat
May 2015
#86
So what? We don't have the votes to stop a bad deal even if magically every Democrat held.
TheKentuckian
May 2015
#146
The debate is a show, where is your list of Republicans that are looking out for workers and
TheKentuckian
May 2015
#165
You are exactly right, with some added scariousity, which is that they have had 10 years to play out
GoneFishin
May 2015
#76
So now the complaint, now that the agreement is public as intended, is that it is too long to read?? So much
Fred Sanders
May 2015
#118
No, the complaint is about imposing an artificial deadline on reading and considering it.
Jim Lane
May 2015
#124
The history of fast track should be researched by folks who fail to grasp the "why".
Fred Sanders
May 2015
#129
Which would give Obama what he wants...he can approve it and congress can't change it..
madfloridian
May 2015
#93
If Congress doesn't like the trade agreement, they can reject it outright through an up-or-down vote
Cali_Democrat
May 2015
#105
If the Republicans don't like it (which they do) they can reject it out right
TheKentuckian
May 2015
#149
Why would you force such an issue? Fucking cookoo for Coco Puffs thought process there.
TheKentuckian
May 2015
#177
I'm letting my two senators (Cantwell and Murray) know that their votes decide my vote.
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2015
#4
they represent corporate america, not you, so that statement is actually true nt
msongs
May 2015
#16
What a bunch of fools. They don't know what the TPP is about and what it will
JDPriestly
May 2015
#26
"once they established that they could safely take minorities and labor for granted"
madfloridian
May 2015
#172
I do not understand why this is bad, to debate it. I've not been following each little part, please
uppityperson
May 2015
#31
The news is even with 100% solidarity among Democrats (right) we don't have the votes
TheKentuckian
May 2015
#159
There are lots of important issues, and having a democrat in office is important.
Agschmid
May 2015
#94
Much better than republicans because . . . I'm not sure. They seem like a liability to the party
Ed Suspicious
May 2015
#97
An eclectic mix, looking out for a trade bill that promises so much to so few.
Octafish
May 2015
#139
From Salon. TPA and secrecy. Only after Obama gets fast track will it be open supposedly.
madfloridian
May 2015
#174
Cantwell and Murray. Damn. That is disappointing. Just what kind of assistance is going to help our
liberal_at_heart
May 2015
#183