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GoneFishin

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61. Yep. She really needs to fucking go.

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Thu May 14, 2015, 05:15 PM

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The 13 Democrats who just voted to move to debate on trade deal. [View all] madfloridian May 2015 OP

The usual suspects. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2015 #1

Indeed beltanefauve May 2015 #8

I wrote Feinstein a couple days ago. Not that she cares. C Moon May 2015 #65

I wrote her off years ago.. frylock May 2015 #72

Feinstein needs to go... TDale313 May 2015 #74

She should have been voted out years ago denbot May 2015 #95

She is so bad that she almost makes Chris Christie look good! truedelphi May 2015 #120

Not surprised in the least catchnrelease May 2015 #91

Wyden is a bit of an outlier. Maedhros May 2015 #12

he is from Nike land aftera all... themaguffin May 2015 #19

Nike Land & the Timber Industry bvar22 May 2015 #40

Timber tennstar May 2015 #71

Wyden voted for NAFTA as well Angel Martin May 2015 #98

He sure did! fredamae May 2015 #114

Who do you think owns most of the North West timber/lumbering companies? INdemo May 2015 #100

And GP Mills n/t fredamae May 2015 #115

You know how insane that sounds? zeemike May 2015 #103

The Ports along the OR Coast fredamae May 2015 #119

Exactly! And both Murray & Cantwell voted "Yea" for NAFTA countryjake May 2015 #123

And yet Jeff Merkley did not vote for it while both of the Washington Senators did and Wyden. Bluenorthwest May 2015 #106

Boeing pscot May 2015 #121

Hopefully, DeFazio will run. n/t. Ken Burch May 2015 #134

Steve Novick was Merkley's opponent in the primary. Maedhros May 2015 #137

I thought the same thing before I read your post. n/t Avalux May 2015 #29

Yes it is. Enthusiast May 2015 #122

I have to say that I was a bit shocked to see the yeoman6987 May 2015 #157

Ah, the usual suspects. The Third Way/Blue Dog/New Democrat usual suspects. AtomicKitten May 2015 #2

Actually the two senators from Washington the State don't usually vote with rhett o rick May 2015 #30

That's a legitimate distinction. AtomicKitten May 2015 #49

Washington tennstar May 2015 #75

I thought Sen Cantwell was getting better in the last few years but she does have rhett o rick May 2015 #113

You're from Olympia? Ken Burch May 2015 #138

He would have lost Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2015 #141

Cantwell and Murray always Angel Martin May 2015 #101

So this vote started the debate Cali_Democrat May 2015 #3

Yes, let's. madfloridian May 2015 #5

All debate on the Senate floor is public. Cali_Democrat May 2015 #6

Great, when do we get to see the deal, in print, so we can know what's in it? haikugal May 2015 #10

"TPA requires the administration make any agreement public for at least 60 days before entering... Cali_Democrat May 2015 #11

So they had 10 years to hide everything and we have 60 days to read and research...sounds haikugal May 2015 #13

You get a countdown of 60 days to read 150,000 pages of legalese. fasttense May 2015 #55

Not to mention that is is a done deal anyway once TPA is in place. That's why they pushed so hard GoneFishin May 2015 #62

Well if nothing else we'll know how and who is screwing us.. haikugal May 2015 #69

The whole trade agreement, or just parts. madfloridian May 2015 #21

You're confused Cali_Democrat May 2015 #25

You're confused. You actually believe that TPA is not the end of the story. After TPA it's a done GoneFishin May 2015 #67

Any finalized trade agreement will have to be submitted to Congress for an up-or-down vote. nt Cali_Democrat May 2015 #86

So what? We don't have the votes to stop a bad deal even if magically every Democrat held. TheKentuckian May 2015 #146

"We don't have the votes to stop a bad deal" Cali_Democrat May 2015 #148

The debate is a show, where is your list of Republicans that are looking out for workers and TheKentuckian May 2015 #165

It's open to the public for 60 days before and up/down vote. Agschmid May 2015 #47

18,000 pages in 60 days questionseverything May 2015 #24

You are exactly right, with some added scariousity, which is that they have had 10 years to play out GoneFishin May 2015 #76

So now the complaint, now that the agreement is public as intended, is that it is too long to read?? So much Fred Sanders May 2015 #118

No, the complaint is about imposing an artificial deadline on reading and considering it. Jim Lane May 2015 #124

The history of fast track should be researched by folks who fail to grasp the "why". Fred Sanders May 2015 #129

Many of us fear that we do indeed grasp the "why" Jim Lane May 2015 #150

current admin refuses to prosecute war criminals questionseverything May 2015 #179

I agree, they will skim the surface and distract, or try to. haikugal May 2015 #15

Can't debate tennstar May 2015 #78

The title of the article is "Senate votes to start trade debate " Cali_Democrat May 2015 #82

Which would give Obama what he wants...he can approve it and congress can't change it.. madfloridian May 2015 #93

If Congress doesn't like the trade agreement, they can reject it outright through an up-or-down vote Cali_Democrat May 2015 #105

If the Republicans don't like it (which they do) they can reject it out right TheKentuckian May 2015 #149

So it's the make up of Congress that you're objecting to. Cali_Democrat May 2015 #153

Why would you force such an issue? Fucking cookoo for Coco Puffs thought process there. TheKentuckian May 2015 #177

I'm letting my two senators (Cantwell and Murray) know that their votes decide my vote. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #4

And they will use the same worn out Wellstone ruled May 2015 #7

It ain't me babe ... GeorgeGist May 2015 #9

they represent corporate america, not you, so that statement is actually true nt msongs May 2015 #16

That's the statement that I noticed as well ybbor May 2015 #112

Ugh. we have to hope that cali May 2015 #14

When Democrats make up their mind that they are "free traders"... kentuck May 2015 #17

Well said, kentuck. madfloridian May 2015 #20

I liked Colorado so much better when we were a Democratic state world wide wally May 2015 #34

Me too, Wally... kentuck May 2015 #52

Yeah, I called Bennet but knew it would do no good. Autumn May 2015 #142

the "people" we represent.... Triana May 2015 #18

Primary opponents needed for all of them. NaturalHigh May 2015 #22

"assist U.S. workers displaced by foreign competition." Baitball Blogger May 2015 #23

What a bunch of fools. They don't know what the TPP is about and what it will JDPriestly May 2015 #26

States with more export-driven economies are generally more favorable geek tragedy May 2015 #48

The Democratic Party Would Triangulate It's Own Mother octoberlib May 2015 #27

"once they established that they could safely take minorities and labor for granted" madfloridian May 2015 #172

Awww Tim come on! underpants May 2015 #28

Tim and Warner both! WTF! nt Nay May 2015 #33

yes...and I wrote and called both of their offices. Duppers May 2015 #108

Tim Kaine is a good guy, Warner we know. WTH!? appalachiablue May 2015 #151

I do not understand why this is bad, to debate it. I've not been following each little part, please uppityperson May 2015 #31

With fast track... sendero May 2015 #36

OK, that makes sense, thanks uppityperson May 2015 #39

So sorry for your loss. dgibby May 2015 #73

Thank you, it is odd uppityperson May 2015 #79

~hugs you~ Marrah_G May 2015 #171

With fast track how many days would they have to debate? Agschmid May 2015 #46

I think there.. sendero May 2015 #54

That's a fine amount of time. Agschmid May 2015 #57

All over summer....and how busy are our representatives really? haikugal May 2015 #77

The time period .. sendero May 2015 #80

Good point, we never had a chance. haikugal May 2015 #90

Those opposed to TPP this think this will grease the wheels to approval.. DCBob May 2015 #38

The news is even with 100% solidarity among Democrats (right) we don't have the votes TheKentuckian May 2015 #159

Maybe, Just Maybe . . . Gamecock Lefty May 2015 #32

Of course they do.. sendero May 2015 #53

I knew Cantwell was one. She has to go! Phlem May 2015 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author rurallib May 2015 #60

Seems like Washington tennstar May 2015 #96

Uh Huh Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2015 #143

Any F*ing non 3rd way Democrat and Phlem May 2015 #147

Washington's a trade dependent state Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2015 #180

Washington State is also a big exporter of.....Tech Jobs too! Phlem May 2015 #182

Of course Claire McCaskill (Mo.) Gore1FL May 2015 #37

They ALL need to go. nt TBF May 2015 #41

Oh they do? Agschmid May 2015 #44

Do you know anything about Shaheen - TBF May 2015 #51

Well if it was a republican we wouldn't have a press release... Agschmid May 2015 #56

You completely ignored what I said in order to make an TBF May 2015 #64

I didn't ignore what you said, and I didn't start the snark. Agschmid May 2015 #66

And you still refuse to answer the question: TBF May 2015 #68

She doesn't vote the same that's the damn answer. Agschmid May 2015 #70

I care about many issues ~ TBF May 2015 #83

You seem to care about one. Agschmid May 2015 #85

I'm just letting folks know about this issue TBF May 2015 #88

There are lots of important issues, and having a democrat in office is important. Agschmid May 2015 #94

And I am sick of the shit TBF May 2015 #104

I am not a republican, and I certainly am not a third way guy. Agschmid May 2015 #109

Then why in the world would you support TPP - TBF May 2015 #161

+100000000 Third Way propaganda woo me with science May 2015 #125

Jeanne Shaheen... Top 3rd Way Conspirator! Agschmid May 2015 #135

How about this? BainsBane May 2015 #136

I'm a co-precinct leader down here - TBF May 2015 #160

I've helped get the head of the congressional progressive caucus elected BainsBane May 2015 #163

So I'm not allowed to have an opinion because I happen to TBF May 2015 #164

I didn't say you weren't allowed to have an opinon BainsBane May 2015 #166

You are implying that Texas dems are happy about TBF May 2015 #168

No, that's not what I'm implying BainsBane May 2015 #176

Blaming the victims remains popular I see - TBF May 2015 #181

Third way like Franken and Keith Ellison? BainsBane May 2015 #185

*Shaheen. Agschmid May 2015 #42

Well, that's the core of the "democratic" wing of the Corporate Party. n2doc May 2015 #43

Manchin has always voted Angel Martin May 2015 #110

Yep, my two fake Democratic Senators are there. CharlotteVale May 2015 #45

DiFi...of course! SoapBox May 2015 #50

Yep. She really needs to fucking go. GoneFishin May 2015 #61

The usual prostitutes. GoneFishin May 2015 #58

Quit insulting prostitutes, at least they make an honest living... eom Purveyor May 2015 #84

Yeah. And it's no surprise when you get screwed. GoneFishin May 2015 #178

Rotating villains. woo me with science May 2015 #59

^^^This^^^ haikugal May 2015 #89

But always just enough... kentuck May 2015 #99

Nailed it. zeemike May 2015 #111

rotating villains is the reality Angel Martin May 2015 #116

Thank you. 840high May 2015 #167

Thank you. K&R nt TBF May 2015 #169

Sigh, really California? Utopian Leftist May 2015 #63

Feinstein, of course randys1 May 2015 #81

Monsanto, Goldman Sachs, Exxon, Citibank, Boeing, Xi............. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #87

WE HAVE turbinetree May 2015 #92

Much better than republicans because . . . I'm not sure. They seem like a liability to the party Ed Suspicious May 2015 #97

I seriously hope there is a challenge to all 13 emsimon33 May 2015 #102

Crap, I expected Warner, but Kaine too? peacebird May 2015 #107

I would have done the same thing. I don't do filibusters. bluestateguy May 2015 #117

Murray and Cantwell are traitors and will never receive my vote again LittleBlue May 2015 #126

So you're voting Republican next time? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2015 #145

The second LittleBlue May 2015 #155

They're not getting my vote either. liberal_at_heart May 2015 #184

Democrats you say? 99Forever May 2015 #127

seems to be that... chillfactor May 2015 #128

uuuuyggghh DonCoquixote May 2015 #130

I would call them Dinos DonCoquixote May 2015 #131

Congress is like a predictabe and embarrasingly bad sulphurdunn May 2015 #132

No surprises in that list. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #133

An eclectic mix, looking out for a trade bill that promises so much to so few. Octafish May 2015 #139

Diane good-for-nothing Feinstein, dammit! mike_c May 2015 #140

Thanks for naming names! nt City Lights May 2015 #144

Sell Outs To The 1% - One And All cantbeserious May 2015 #152

I agree - although I was killed for saying so. TBF May 2015 #162

Thank you for your posts in this thread dreamnightwind May 2015 #170

Ron weyden and Patty Murray? Isn't that a surprise? still_one May 2015 #154

Good to see some folks doing what's right for country, even if some constituents Hoyt May 2015 #156

It's not like trade didn't exist before TPP ... Trajan May 2015 #158

Is it going to come down to hoping Japan and Malaysia bow out... SMC22307 May 2015 #173

From Salon. TPA and secrecy. Only after Obama gets fast track will it be open supposedly. madfloridian May 2015 #174

Don't miss nadin's post about privatization of post office and TPP madfloridian May 2015 #175

Cantwell and Murray. Damn. That is disappointing. Just what kind of assistance is going to help our liberal_at_heart May 2015 #183